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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 13:53 Post subject: wtf, disposable razors at the DNC
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| Quote: | | NOW THAT WAS BRIGHT....With all of the headlines and commotion about strict security at this year's political conventions you would think that someone would have thought twice about the decision to place boxes of Gillette razors in each of the welcome bags handed out with credentials to delegates and press types in Boston. Boston-based Gillette reportedly spent over a million dollars on the product placement, only to have: a) their products unused as all of the razors were confiscated when convention-goers attempted to pass through security; and b) their name taken in vain repeatedly because the already-long security lines became even more backed-up due to the razor snafu. Might we suggest substituting a nice moisturizer instead next time? |
Haha, they're confiscating plastic disposable razors
You could almost (well, you couldn't, but let's pretend you could) make an argument on a plane that even if it's not much of a threat, maybe you could crash the plane before people were able to deal with the twenty five cent razor, but how do you crash a convention center?
Along those lines, and because it's not worth making a new thread, about that (yet another) plane that turned back this morning because someone found a note about a bomb: has anyone, in history, ever found a bomb threat on a plane that subsequently actually had a bomb on it? If you were going to blow up a plane, and you weren't trying to use it as a threat or blackmail or ultimatum that you could disable if someone acceded to your demands, why would you leave a note? What conceivable purpose could it serve? On the other hand, if you just wanted to disrupt international travel and commerce and make people feel unsafe, or if you were just a nut, it's a lot easier and safer to leave a stupid note and wait for people to overreact like idiots, than it is to actually assemble and smuggle in a real bomb.
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Frax
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:16 Post subject:
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wrong forum clown!
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:18 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | wrong forum clown! |
Well, when we make the disposable razor forum, I'll move it. Of course I'll have to crosspost to the bombs on airplanes forum. I'm sure they'll both be created by Thursday or thereabout.
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Spitulski
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:18 Post subject:
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Why, do we have a forum for terrorism-related topics now?
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Abi
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:20 Post subject:
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You realize prison inmates can turn disposable razors into deadly weapons right....
Sorry but in a post 9/11 world I would prefer to err on the side of caution..
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goatface
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:23 Post subject:
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i phear any person armed with a plastic razor
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:24 Post subject:
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Well, you all know that democrats are scum, right?
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Jinu
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:25 Post subject:
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If they spent a million dollars, then you have to believe those are some Mach 3 extreme power plus whatever they're called now.
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:25 Post subject:
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There is a difference between caution and just destroying sanity.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:26 Post subject:
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I was thinking, just in case the assault weapons the security teams have aren't enough to combat the disposable razors on their own, they could also arm each officer with a roll of toilet paper, so if somebody gets a cut from one of those razors they could wet a little piece and stick it on until it stops bleeding!
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Banzai
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:30 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Well, you all know that democrats are scum, right? |
I think I read that someplace... Sunday comics?
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Abi
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:30 Post subject:
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OK let me get this straight.. Box cutters are lethal but disposable razors arent?
I reitereate.. 90% of weopons prisoners use to kill/maim/harm other prisoners are made from Disposable razors...
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:34 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | OK let me get this straight.. Box cutters are lethal but disposable razors arent?
I reitereate.. 90% of weopons prisoners use to kill/maim/harm other prisoners are made from Disposable razors... |
So what. Technically speaking anything can be a weapon. There is no way someone can't sneak a small edged object into anywhere. For f***s sake you could take a CD in there, break it in half and have a knife. When you start confiscating things with legitimate uses that theoretically could be used as an ultra short range melee weapon you've crossed the line into moronville. I mean how long does your fingernail have to be before you could go into a bathroom and file it down into a stabbing weapon?
When you remove PLASTIC legitimate use items with a blade smaller than 2 inches you're making the terrorists win.
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:36 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | OK let me get this straight.. Box cutters are lethal but disposable razors arent?
I reitereate.. 90% of weopons prisoners use to kill/maim/harm other prisoners are made from Disposable razors... |
Razors/box cutter/knives are just as, if not more dangerous than a firearm at close range.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:41 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Abi wrote: | OK let me get this straight.. Box cutters are lethal but disposable razors arent?
I reitereate.. 90% of weopons prisoners use to kill/maim/harm other prisoners are made from Disposable razors... |
Razors/box cutter/knives are just as, if not more dangerous than a firearm at close range. |
A straight razor maybe. A two or three blade plastic safety razor, with a flexible blade about 1" long and 3/16" wide? You'd have more to fear from a ballpoint pen. For that matter, a fist could probably do more damage. You'd be likely to do more damage to yourself getting the blade out of the razor than you could expect to do with it.
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:44 Post subject:
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Might as well make people strip naked. Have mini bombs attached to thier necks. HandCuff their feet and legs like full blown high danger criminal. Wrap them in a straight jacket. THen chain them to a floor. If at anytime they even stand their f*****g head gets blown off.That or we could just return to reality.
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:48 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Abi wrote: | OK let me get this straight.. Box cutters are lethal but disposable razors arent?
I reitereate.. 90% of weopons prisoners use to kill/maim/harm other prisoners are made from Disposable razors... |
Razors/box cutter/knives are just as, if not more dangerous than a firearm at close range. |
A straight razor maybe. A two or three blade plastic safety razor, with a flexible blade about 1" long and 3/16" wide? You'd have more to fear from a ballpoint pen. For that matter, a fist could probably do more damage. You'd be likely to do more damage to yourself getting the blade out of the razor than you could expect to do with it. |
Shut up idiot. I have no intrest in schooling you in close combat and how things can go very bad, very quickly.
Stick to making cuntish liberal comments and don't pretend to be a man.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:51 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Abi wrote: | OK let me get this straight.. Box cutters are lethal but disposable razors arent?
I reitereate.. 90% of weopons prisoners use to kill/maim/harm other prisoners are made from Disposable razors... |
Razors/box cutter/knives are just as, if not more dangerous than a firearm at close range. |
A straight razor maybe. A two or three blade plastic safety razor, with a flexible blade about 1" long and 3/16" wide? You'd have more to fear from a ballpoint pen. For that matter, a fist could probably do more damage. You'd be likely to do more damage to yourself getting the blade out of the razor than you could expect to do with it. |
Shut up idiot. I have no intrest in schooling you in close combat and how things can go very bad, very quickly.
Stick to making cuntish liberal comments and don't pretend to be a man. |
Shut up yourself, and stop being a moron. Things have already gone very bad, if we're in this situation. Oh yeah, it's your own safety you're worried about, not society. I don't doubt that you're such a coward that you'd shoot someone holding a disposable plastic razor.
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Abi
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 14:56 Post subject:
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You take the razor part out of the plastic part you f*****g moronic liberal waste of oxygen...
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Frashii
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 15:03 Post subject:
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| Jinu wrote: | | If they spent a million dollars, then you have to believe those are some Mach 3 extreme power plus whatever they're called now. |
In other words, they distributed like 14 of them.
Those f*****s are expensive!
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 15:16 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Abi wrote: | OK let me get this straight.. Box cutters are lethal but disposable razors arent?
I reitereate.. 90% of weopons prisoners use to kill/maim/harm other prisoners are made from Disposable razors... |
Razors/box cutter/knives are just as, if not more dangerous than a firearm at close range. |
A straight razor maybe. A two or three blade plastic safety razor, with a flexible blade about 1" long and 3/16" wide? You'd have more to fear from a ballpoint pen. For that matter, a fist could probably do more damage. You'd be likely to do more damage to yourself getting the blade out of the razor than you could expect to do with it. |
Shut up idiot. I have no intrest in schooling you in close combat and how things can go very bad, very quickly.
Stick to making cuntish liberal comments and don't pretend to be a man. |
Shut up yourself, and stop being a moron. Things have already gone very bad, if we're in this situation. Oh yeah, it's your own safety you're worried about, not society. I don't doubt that you're such a coward that you'd shoot someone holding a disposable plastic razor. |
LOL you liberal c**t. You actually got me laughing at you. Clueless liberal idiot that you are. Cease and desist from comment on anything about hand to hand combat, you are forbidden. If someone came at me and ACTED like they had a weapon in their hand I would shoot them MULTIPLE times. But someone with a small razor blade melted back into the handle to make a scalpel like weapon would not be stupid enough to come at me like that. Most likely the first alert I would get, that someone intended me harm with an improvised weapon would be the blood dripping down the front of my shirt.
Now, STFU you cuntish dork and don't embarrass yourself any further.
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goatface
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 15:18 Post subject:
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| Frashii wrote: | | Jinu wrote: | | If they spent a million dollars, then you have to believe those are some Mach 3 extreme power plus whatever they're called now. |
In other words, they distributed like 14 of them.
Those f*****s are expensive! |
lol
i got one, still not opened it yet
i fear that i will like
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Occulis
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 15:21 Post subject:
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How much freedom will you give up for a false sense of security?
(Complete Paranoia) <-----------------> (Complete Anarchy)
Put a dot somewhere on this line, wherever you would rather live. Once you have chosen, you may realize personal safety, the actual issue at hand, is not even part of the line.
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Nahualli
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 15:44 Post subject:
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Kbarr... why would you want to prevent weapons or potential weapons from being smuggled into the DNC?
I thought you wanted all those f*****s dead anyways.
-Nah-
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 16:00 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | Kbarr... why would you want to prevent weapons or potential weapons from being smuggled into the DNC?
I thought you wanted all those f*****s dead anyways.
-Jesus!- |
Actually I want them to disapear, but I know that will not happen. My argument here was that the cheap 1 dollar razors can be turned into very dangerous weapons. All u need is a razor and a lighter=instant scapel.
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 16:11 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Nahualli wrote: | Kbarr... why would you want to prevent weapons or potential weapons from being smuggled into the DNC?
I thought you wanted all those f*****s dead anyways.
-Jesus!- |
Actually I want them to disapear, but I know that will not happen. My argument here was that the cheap 1 dollar razors can be turned into very dangerous weapons. All u need is a razor and a lighter=instant scapel. |
You can do the same thing with a good pair of sunglasses. This super-confiscation of personal effects needs to stop. The second you have to "make sure" you didn't bring a weapon on ACCIDENT you know how stupid it f*****g is.
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Tamena
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 16:30 Post subject:
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you can do the same thing with a f*****g plastic spork Mugz.
It won't stop and can't stop because people are idiots.
Some moron at the DNC will make a big deal about the razors being in the packets hoping to make his/her self a name somewhere and it all gets blown out of proportion.
Gotta admit tho Gillette wasn't exactly wide awake and bushy tailed when they came up with the idea to give the razors away either tho.
They're confiscating disposable razors....what about the ones people brought themselves?
Yeah Democraps!! Brilliant waste of funding on this move.
Gives me a lot of positive feelings about the Party *sarcasm off*
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kemble
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 16:35 Post subject:
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| Occulis wrote: | How much freedom will you give up for a false sense of security?
(Complete Paranoia) <-----------------> (Complete Anarchy)
Put a dot somewhere on this line, wherever you would rather live. Once you have chosen, you may realize personal safety, the actual issue at hand, is not even part of the line. |
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Aluaeia
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 16:38 Post subject:
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HI GUYS, I TRADED MY CHEAP DISPOSABLE RAZOR FOR THE ANCIENT CHINESE TOUCH OF DEATH.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/27/04 - 16:45 Post subject:
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I don't think there's any question that someone could, possibly, do some limited amount of damage to maybe one or two people with a weapon improvised from a plastic safety razer, or a CdRom, or a spork, or sunglasses, or whatever. Maybe they could even catch someone as well trained as Kbarr by suprise, and give him a really bad scratch before he could shoot them. Maybe a supernatural terror ninja could use a soda straw to puncture someone's carotid artery.
The crucial point is, who cares? There's always a certain minimum amount of danger in life. You can't set it to zero. So you consider the effect of something like that happening. Can they crash the convention center into the state house? Make the convention center's nuclear reactors go critical? No. Embarass the Democratic Party, or the security staff? Maybe. Create a hostage crisis? Barely likely, but conceivable, although you could do that anywhere, anytime, and have much better chance of success, which is to say a few more hours before you got arrested or killed.
I just don't see the point in acting like idiots to show how serious you are.
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