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Brash
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Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Posts: 3958
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 03:35 Post subject: wow raids ?
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whats a raid like in WoW ? any different than eq ?
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GruntingCod
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 6399
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 03:47 Post subject:
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Well UBRS apparently requires a big raid party. Raid parties deduct experience from killing the shit, and quest credit isn't given for being in a raid party. Also, the only true "raid monster" is Onyxia which hasn't been killed yet, and won't for I suspect another month or so. Mostly right now they are just raid parties which are doing normal styled instances, if you have been in any of them yet.
Someone with more experience can add or change any of that information they would like.
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Snifswamp
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Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 73
Location: Ft.Myers
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 09:18 Post subject:
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My guild does UBRS daily 1 or 2 times, with about 30 people, takes about an hour 5min or so to clear to boss...not bad lewts in the instances either. There's also Molten Core which is supposively harder than onyxia? I havent done much in there so, can't really say. Raids are definetly pretty fun in imo
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halfbent
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 2944
Location: Kentwood, Mi
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Thrallt
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Joined: 23 Dec 2002 Posts: 185
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 13:40 Post subject:
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I did my first upper BRS raid last night. JFC they need to either let shrink items become more readily available or grow raid NPC mobs. It was a cluster f**k trying to run around and backstab mobs.....I couldnt see em surrounded by 20 players. They also need MGB mow and fortitude~)
They need to refine their raid mechanics for sure.
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Yanbik
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Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 1575
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 13:48 Post subject:
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| GruntingCod wrote: | Well UBRS apparently requires a big raid party. Raid parties deduct experience from killing the shit, and quest credit isn't given for being in a raid party. Also, the only true "raid monster" is Onyxia which hasn't been killed yet, and won't for I suspect another month or so. Mostly right now they are just raid parties which are doing normal styled instances, if you have been in any of them yet.
Someone with more experience can add or change any of that information they would like. |
Ubrs requires min of like 2 groups, we did it last night w/ 13 or 14 in little over 2 hours. Our normal runs w/ 20-25 is down to hour and half now. There are raid quest that you do in fact get credit for when your in a raid party. Onxyia key is one, quest from some water elemental which leads to molten core is another.. Also the whole zone of molten core is a raiding zone w/ the boss of that being a lot harder then onyxia. Exp doesnt even matter on raids because once you start doing them you should be 60 or close to it.
Right now the other two zones that are designed for single group encounters but ppl usually raid them are
a. Strath, which is buggy as hell and its almost impossible to do w/ a single group, mobs that bug in and out of combat and instantly get 100% life or evade bug nonstop isnt fun. Doesnt seem like the boss of the zone is tuned for a 5 man group either, no clue as The one time we tried to one group gauntlet we got owned in the face w/ bugs.
b. Scholomance is just a shity zone loot wise, the only reason ppl will do this zone w/ one group is so they can do the quest. After that ppl just want to plow the zone for loot from basically the final boss as most of the other loot is trash aside from a few select items.
So right now there isnt much to raid or even do at 60 which is my only real serious complaint w/ the game atm.
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Yanbik
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 1575
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 13:49 Post subject:
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| Thrallt wrote: | I did my first upper BRS raid last night. JFC they need to either let shrink items become more readily available or grow raid NPC mobs. It was a cluster f**k trying to run around and backstab mobs.....I couldnt see em surrounded by 20 players. They also need MGB mow and fortitude~)
They need to refine their raid mechanics for sure. |
Yes, even when you do get the group version of the spells, you have to make the person w/ the spell the raid leader so they can hop from group to group to cast the spells.
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Tolanin
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 3551
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 17:16 Post subject:
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MC is the hardest zone in the game currently.. the boss of the zone is ragnaros he is like 4 times the size of onyxia and is the fire elemental titan.
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Finigan
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 3817
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 19:53 Post subject:
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Haha, I like that guy's response
"Nerf Koreans please."
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Jakanden
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 11 Nov 2003 Posts: 5334
Location: Fuck if I know - I am always lost
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 21:10 Post subject:
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| Finigan wrote: |
Haha, I like that guy's response
"Nerf Koreans please." |
I dont play WoW but that thread is just chalk full of Drama and I cannot stop reading! Im only on page 6 but was there ever a Blue post to confirm it was legit?
Also does Maellus = Kbarr???
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Ashenor
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Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 1539
Location: Metro Detroit
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Posted: 01/28/05 - 22:06 Post subject:
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Molten Core is hard, we had a warlock epic set peice drop the other day there though.
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Tolanin
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 3551
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Posted: 01/29/05 - 01:41 Post subject:
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loot from onyxia is kinda disapointing, koreans dont get props for first kill since they didnt have the stealth nerf we had like 2 weeks ago that made her alot harder.
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halfbent
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 2944
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Posted: 01/29/05 - 19:18 Post subject:
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Aren't Koreans still in beta too? Not much to b***h about, but it's kind of impressive that they did something that wasn't done stateside. /shrug
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Tolanin
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 3551
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Posted: 01/30/05 - 02:48 Post subject:
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| halfbent wrote: | | Aren't Koreans still in beta too? Not much to b***h about, but it's kind of impressive that they did something that wasn't done stateside. /shrug |
no they are in final and no its not impressive because the mob is alot easier in there version than in ours.
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Ruyen
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Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 452
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Posted: 01/30/05 - 03:18 Post subject:
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MC is pretty insane, we've only tried it once and got to Lucifron but we only had 25ppl and those dogs of undeath seem impossible with thos enumbers. We'll be able to do it easy with more ppl though. I really like these first raids so far, I just hope they will be able to keep up with the supply / quality.
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Tolanin
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 3551
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Posted: 01/30/05 - 03:30 Post subject:
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| Ruyen wrote: | | MC is pretty insane, we've only tried it once and got to Lucifron but we only had 25ppl and those dogs of undeath seem impossible with thos enumbers. We'll be able to do it easy with more ppl though. I really like these first raids so far, I just hope they will be able to keep up with the supply / quality. |
the loot is so lame tho =/
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Rossie1
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Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 40
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Tolanin
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Posted: 01/30/05 - 04:38 Post subject:
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thrall drop anything?
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Tamena
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Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 1764
Location: New Joisey!
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Posted: 01/30/05 - 08:12 Post subject:
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On Skullcrusher it's like trying to wade through molasses in Janurary,
Guild headed into Darkshire on Thursday night, the lag was so bad I was able to hit a guard about once ever 20-30 seconds at best, up to a minute between swings at it's worst.
We were loosing people left and right cause of being dropped off the server.
The only good thing about it was that the alliance that showed to defend the area had as many problems as we did...hella lot of fun, but the lag really sucked
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Rossie1
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Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 40
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Posted: 01/30/05 - 08:55 Post subject:
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Thrall dropped 20s and 2 runecloth
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Torval
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Joined: 11 Mar 2003 Posts: 138
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Posted: 02/01/05 - 12:02 Post subject: re
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damn right! pleeasse ficking add target of target (for healers, best damn thing ever), and shrink! jfc i can't find shit in a raid with no collision detection between npc / pc. target rings would be nice too.
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