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PostPosted: 08/16/04 - 23:24    Post subject: swift Boat Veterans Commercial Reply with quote

hah

turns out ---NON--- of the fuktards actually 'served' with Kerry.

They did 'serve' in vietnam at the same time, but -not- the same unit or with him personally.

the person 'claiming' to have examined him medically does not exist on record having done so.

liars

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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 01:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humm, can you post a link with this new info? Funny that the people in the commercials are in a photo with Kerry, but yet they didn't serve with him?
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 01:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chubs, you are way behind the curve. You need to get some new info.


Anyway...back to a subject you LOVE!

Dressing up!

Here, I found this for you. A pouch for your D&D dice!
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 01:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chubs, you are way behind the curve. You need to get some new info.


yawn

loser, your shit is old and played out. /yawn.

that really all you have?

serious?
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 01:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wily wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Chubs, you are way behind the curve. You need to get some new info.


yawn

loser, your shit is old and played out. /yawn.

that really all you have?

serious?


I have you.

Thats all I need:)

You fat idiot!

SHOW US THE DRESS UP PICTURE, YOU a*****e!

LOL
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 01:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have you. I need you. I crave you! SHOW ME THE DRESS UP PICTURE, YOU a*****e! LOL


you dont have shit, you are a d*****s idiot who is completely off target about me. You dont even know what your talking about, but you are talking...kinda like a lil yappy dog. Careful not to cringe and p**s the carpet. Loser IRLboy.

you sound like bush ...."kinda sovereign ...er....tribe"
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 01:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wily wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
I have you. I need you. I crave you! SHOW ME THE DRESS UP PICTURE, YOU a*****e! LOL


you dont have shit, you are a d*****s idiot who is completely off target about me. You dont even know what your talking about, but you are talking...kinda like a lil yappy dog. Careful not to cringe and p**s the carpet. Loser IRLboy.

you sound like bush ...."kinda sovereign ...er....tribe"


SHEET!

I'm right on target from a thousand yards out. Your head was misted before the person next to you heard the report.

Click/poof/crack!

A fat, rude, self centered, liberal, stupid, blowhard.....

AND you like to dress up:)

I wonder, is it good for your kids to see you live this strange fantasy life out in the open? I mean it must be in the open, being you posted that picture of yourself in your finery!

I would think not chubs, give it some deep thought why don't you.
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 10:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Kbarr is autistic.
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 10:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qienn wrote:
Humm, can you post a link with this new info? Funny that the people in the commercials are in a photo with Kerry, but yet they didn't serve with him?


this appears to be the same info that was on the repeat of the Daily show last night
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 10:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

well shit, it MUST be true then
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 10:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

They did serve with him.. just not on the same boat, many of them were superior officers in staff positions who he worked for.
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 11:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frax wrote:
They did serve with him.. just not on the same boat, many of them were superior officers in staff positions who he worked for.

I.E. people who had no idea who he was other than a name on a form, until he left the service and started saying the Vietnam war was a bad idea.
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 11:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinrakin wrote:
Frax wrote:
They did serve with him.. just not on the same boat, many of them were superior officers in staff positions who he worked for.

I.E. people who had no idea who he was other than a name on a form, until he left the service and started saying the Vietnam war was a bad idea.


You obviously have no idea how a military unit works... get educated, moron...
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 11:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abi wrote:
sinrakin wrote:
Frax wrote:
They did serve with him.. just not on the same boat, many of them were superior officers in staff positions who he worked for.

I.E. people who had no idea who he was other than a name on a form, until he left the service and started saying the Vietnam war was a bad idea.


You obviously have no idea how a military unit works... get educated, moron...


Abi..you were in the Military? I was, I know first hand. Do you? Frax you say "many of them" No. not many, one. a pencil pusher who would not have known shit from shit. Furthermore, HE regrets the statements and claims distortion.



By Bryan Keefer

A new ad by an independent group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth attacks John Kerry's service in Vietnam. Some of the evidence presented by the group, however, fails to back up allegations presented in the ad. And some reporters and pundits are already spinning the facts about members of the group.

The group's ad repeatedly accuses Kerry of lying - an inflammatory charge that the ad presents no evidence to support. On its website the group provides supporting materials, but the charges often boil down to disputed accounts to which there is no definitive resolution.

For example, the commercial features one veteran, Louis Letson, who states that "I know John Kerry is lying about his first Purple Heart because I treated him for that injury." In backup documentation on the website, Letson, a former military doctor, describes the treatment he gave Kerry: removing a small piece of shrapnel from his arm and applying a bandage. (Letson, however, did not sign the medical treatment report of Kerry's injury.) While the group suggests that the injury was minor, the extent of the injury does not matter according to the Navy's criteria for Purple Heart eligibility, only that it was received by enemy fire.

Letson speculates that the wound could have been caused by shrapnel from a mortar fired by Kerry himself, which may have exploded close enough to the boat to cause such an injury. Letson, however, was not present during the firefight, and bases his accusation on the contested accounts of others. This is extremely thin evidence upon which to directly accuse Kerry of lying.

A second example is the dispute surrounding Kerry's Silver Star. In the ad, Kerry's former commanding officer George Elliott, who recommended Kerry for the medal, states that "John Kerry has not been honest about what happened in Vietnam." In an affidavit, Elliott states, "Had I known the facts, I would not have recommended Kerry for the Silver Star for simply pursuing and dispatching a single, wounded, fleeing Viet Cong."

However, as FactCheck.org pointed out, Elliott himself admits that his contention is not based on first-hand knowledge, but rather upon his own reading of other versions of events, including Kerry's own account in a biography by Douglas Brinkley. Moreover, Elliott's claim in his affidavit mischaracterizes the official citation, which awarded Kerry the medal for two ambushes - not just the specific killing of a member of the Viet Cong. (Last week Elliott appeared to retract his criticisms in a Boston Globe article, but later issued a statement reaffirming it.)

In short, the evidence upon which the group has based its claims of lying falls short, for the moment, of definitively proving these charges.

Unsurprisingly, however, the group's allegations are already being distorted. While none of the veterans filmed in the ad served in either of the swift boats Kerry commanded in the war, the group's technically true claim that the men "served with" John Kerry is already leading some pundits and journalists to exaggerate their relationship to the Massachusetts senator.

Fox News Channel has seen several instances of such distortion. As the liberal group Media Matters pointed out, Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity and Pat Halpin both claimed that the men were "some of his crewmates" on August 4, and Catherine Herridge introduced the ad as " featuring some of John Kerry's Vietnam crewmates" on August 6. Such exaggerations take the technically true claim that the veterans served with Kerry and spin it into a misleading talking point.

Perhaps the release of the book Unfit for Command will provide more definitive evidence. But the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ad and website do not prove several of the group's charges.
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 11:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 11:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 11:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abi thinks giving blow jobs to sailors on leave makes him a military expert Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 11:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

wily, you're either a liar or a fucktard

pick your country..are you american now? lying all this time about being australian? what the f**k..

and I knew my chain of command personally up thru Col.(the batallion commander)
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 12:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paco wrote:


pick your country..

wtf are you talking about...you dip shit, read the article. Because some people dont support f*****g Bush they are somehow unamerican? why dont you just shut the f**k up.
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 12:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paco wrote:
wily, pick your country..are you american now? lying all this time about being australian? what the f**k..


wow you're dumb.

when have I ever said I was australian?

Paco wrote:
and I knew my chain of command personally up thru Col.(the batallion commander)


uhuh... b******t. you were a latrine cleaner who was 'known' to them as 'Private Shitscrubber'

put your mouth back on your daddy's d**k d*****s
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 12:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you just find the book of dirty words and decided to come to realpoor to try them out wily?
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 12:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm yea I was in the military and funny thing I also knew everyone from the lowest private to the base commander and NCOIC.

Here's a shocker for you non-military types .. THE MILITARY INGRAINS COMERADERIE AND WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM IT'S WHAT MAKES THE WHOLE THING WORK....

To imply people in his own unit didn't know him is nonsensical and moronic at best.
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 13:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wily wrote:
Paco wrote:
wily, pick your country..are you american now? lying all this time about being australian? what the f**k..


wow you're dumb.

when have I ever said I was australian?

Paco wrote:
and I knew my chain of command personally up thru Col.(the batallion commander)


uhuh... b******t. you were a latrine cleaner who was 'known' to them as 'Private Shitscrubber'

put your mouth back on your daddy's d**k d*****s


oh shit, hahah, I confused you with Hilly.

that's just too funny..nevermind the comments about that Kbarr, he's another douchebag anti american who enjoys the freedoms of this great country
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 13:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abi wrote:
Umm yea I was in the military and funny thing I also knew everyone from the lowest private to the base commander and NCOIC.

Here's a shocker for you non-military types .. THE MILITARY INGRAINS COMERADERIE AND WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM IT'S WHAT MAKES THE WHOLE THING WORK....

To imply people in his own unit didn't know him is nonsensical and moronic at best.


amen

and to top that off, my dad still gets together with his buddies from the day once a year and then some..30 years and up he's been friends with guys from his units and command

wily, you're a piece of b******t talking thru the gaps between your teeth
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 13:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you just find the book of dirty words and decided to come to realpoor to try them out wily?


yes
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 13:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abi wrote:
Umm yea I was in the military and funny thing I also knew everyone from the lowest private to the base commander and NCOIC.


from the shower room maybe...and a few glory hole poke outs.

liar
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 13:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and to top that off, my dad still gets together with his buddies from the day once a year and they all take turns at me, hole for hole.


blah blah blah

now go back to kbarr's d**k tacoboy
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 13:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

~chuckles~

I give sinraken one thing.. he shuts up when he knows he's beat ...
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 13:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abi wrote:
~chuckles~

I give sinraken one thing.. he shuts up when he knows he's beat ...

sorry no, I'm debugging a problem that came up; I'm just busy atm reading traces Smile

But despite your military experiences, I still suspect that if Kerry were in the middle of an actual war, on a boat in Vietnam, for not that long a time, he probably didn't have as much time for fraterenizing up the chain of command as you might have.
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PostPosted: 08/17/04 - 13:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus he begged out after 4 months.
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