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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 12:14    Post subject: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 12:37    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

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surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .


There is a difference in finding food and water and looting some jewelry or a tv like those stupid n*****s.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 12:42    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

Scrabler wrote:
Brash wrote:
surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .


There is a difference in finding food and water and looting some jewelry or a tv like those stupid n*****s.


Your delusional if you think this wouldn't have everywhere in such a situation... stop by at a jewelry store and cash in on hundreds of thousands of black market value, or end up with $0 (assuming no insurance) after the clean up?
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 13:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh please...when a hurricane strikes SC or NC, like Hugo did...there was little to no looting.

In NO they looted an entire Wal-Mart...and so did the NO police.

There was no local plan in effect in NO for this hurricane.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 13:24    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

Soriak wrote:
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Brash wrote:
surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .


There is a difference in finding food and water and looting some jewelry or a tv like those stupid n*****s.


Your delusional if you think this wouldn't have everywhere in such a situation... stop by at a jewelry store and cash in on hundreds of thousands of black market value, or end up with $0 (assuming no insurance) after the clean up?


It could happen everywhere as long as those places have the animlals too.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 13:36    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

Scrabler wrote:
Brash wrote:
surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .


There is a difference in finding food and water and looting some jewelry or a tv like those stupid n*****s.


thieves are opportunists . this was their opportunity to steel TV's and shit don't be surprised when you leave that many poor people behind that some of them are thieves...

look at the footage almost all the shots are people getting supplies not stereo equipment ...
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 13:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh please...when a hurricane strikes SC or NC, like Hugo did...there was little to no looting.

In NO they looted an entire Wal-Mart...and so did the NO police.

There was no local plan in effect in NO for this hurricane.


apples and oranges and you know it ....
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 13:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh please...when a hurricane strikes SC or NC, like Hugo did...there was little to no looting.

In NO they looted an entire Wal-Mart...and so did the NO police.

There was no local plan in effect in NO for this hurricane.


apples and oranges and you know it ....


How so? Come on, I know exactly what you are going to say...but say it anyways, so everyone else can read it...
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 13:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Brash wrote:
Docter wrote:
Oh please...when a hurricane strikes SC or NC, like Hugo did...there was little to no looting.

In NO they looted an entire Wal-Mart...and so did the NO police.

There was no local plan in effect in NO for this hurricane.


apples and oranges and you know it ....


How so? Come on, I know exactly what you are going to say...but say it anyways, so everyone else can read it...



hugo was no where neer as devastating as Katrina ... not even close . 35 Americans died in that storm , thousands in Katrina . with Hugo only 56,000 people were left homeless . with Katrina hundreds of thousands of homes were destroyed leaving enormous amount of people homeless. They also prepared better for Hugo and didn;t have the police running for the hills .


really i think there is no end to the differences in these storms . comparing them is like comparing a suicide car bombing with 9/11
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 14:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brash wrote:
Docter wrote:
Brash wrote:
Docter wrote:
Oh please...when a hurricane strikes SC or NC, like Hugo did...there was little to no looting.

In NO they looted an entire Wal-Mart...and so did the NO police.

There was no local plan in effect in NO for this hurricane.


apples and oranges and you know it ....


How so? Come on, I know exactly what you are going to say...but say it anyways, so everyone else can read it...



hugo was no where neer as devastating as Katrina ... not even close . 35 Americans died in that storm , thousands in Katrina . with Hugo only 56,000 people were left homeless . with Katrina hundreds of thousands of homes were destroyed leaving enormous amount of people homeless. They also prepared better for Hugo and didn;t have the police running for the hills .


really i think there is no end to the differences in these storms . comparing them is like comparing a suicide car bombing with 9/11


YES! They were better prepared because of the local and state government. New Orleans had a breakdown in city government which snowballed into mass panic and chaos.

Other then that there is similiarity between the two cities...although Charleson is 1/10 the size of New Orleans, they have the same demographic percentages.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 14:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm just going to respond to brash with songs from now on hehe.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 14:36    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

Brash wrote:
surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .


Useless liberal child.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 16:00    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Brash wrote:
surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .


Useless liberal child.


you would be the first one beating up people in the streets as you try to rip a roll of toilet paper and a jug of water out of their hands ... you been waiting all your life to walk down the streets and openly shoot people with zero discretion ....
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 16:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Docter wrote:
Brash wrote:
Docter wrote:
Oh please...when a hurricane strikes SC or NC, like Hugo did...there was little to no looting.

In NO they looted an entire Wal-Mart...and so did the NO police.

There was no local plan in effect in NO for this hurricane.


apples and oranges and you know it ....


How so? Come on, I know exactly what you are going to say...but say it anyways, so everyone else can read it...


Are the two hurricanes comparable? Hugo and Katrina?
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 16:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvermouse wrote:
Docter wrote:
Brash wrote:
Docter wrote:
Oh please...when a hurricane strikes SC or NC, like Hugo did...there was little to no looting.

In NO they looted an entire Wal-Mart...and so did the NO police.

There was no local plan in effect in NO for this hurricane.


apples and oranges and you know it ....


How so? Come on, I know exactly what you are going to say...but say it anyways, so everyone else can read it...


Are the two hurricanes comparable? Hugo and Katrina?


Have to agree here - two entirely different storms - two different sized cities - two different response times to aid

hell 80% of NO was under water - that is f****d up
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 16:26    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

Brash wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Brash wrote:
surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .


Useless liberal child.


you would be the first one beating up people in the streets as you try to rip a roll of toilet paper and a jug of water out of their hands ... you been waiting all your life to walk down the streets and openly shoot people with zero discretion ....


I could have shot people at least 30 or 40 times over the years and been legit. I was chasing people holding weapons who would have been blasted by cops in 48 out of the 50 states. Never did.

Now....

If someone is breaking down my front door, they better watch out.

As I stated before I could sit in my house for months on end with NO help, if I needed too. And thats WITH electricity. This is assuming I am not injured beyond my capabilities to self treat. I also have 4 friends who are close and hooked up at least, if not better than I am. So in the end I would not be completely alone, its called planning ahead.

Anyone who is not prepared is stupid. Anyone who stayed and was not prepared is chronically stupid, they should be sterilized. I am talking about able bodies, like 95% of these idiots were. Not 90 year olds who are either all alone or abandoned by scumbags.

A thirty foot wave is coming.

You can either stay and swim or leave and be dry. After the wave comes, or doesn't come, then you can come back and look around.

The idiots are the ones on the roof blaming Bush and searching for food because they were not prepared.

The scumbags are looting raping and killing, while looking for food.

Both are idiots.




And you are a useless liberal child.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 16:28    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Brash wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Brash wrote:
surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .


Useless liberal child.


you would be the first one beating up people in the streets as you try to rip a roll of toilet paper and a jug of water out of their hands ... you been waiting all your life to walk down the streets and openly shoot people with zero discretion ....


I could have shot people at least 30 or 40 times over the years and been legit. I was chasing people holding weapons who would have been blasted by cops in 48 out of the 50 states. Never did.

Now....

If someone is breaking down my front door, they better watch out.

As I stated before I could sit in my house for months on end with NO help, if I needed too. And thats WITH electricity. This is assuming I am not injured beyond my capabilities to self treat. I also have 4 friends who are close and hooked up at least, if not better than I am. So in the end I would not be completely alone, its called planning ahead.

Anyone who is not prepared is stupid. Anyone who stayed and was not prepared is chronically stupid, they should be sterilized. I am talking about able bodies, like 95% of these idiots were. Not 90 year olds who are either all alone or abandoned by scumbags.

A thirty foot wave is coming.

You can either stay and swim or leave and be dry. After the wave comes, or doesn't come, then you can come back and look around.

The idiots are the ones on the roof blaming Bush and searching for food because they were not prepared.

The scumbags are looting raping and killing, while looking for food.

Both are idiots.




And you are a useless liberal child.


you sir, are once again, the idiot in the room
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 16:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I wouldn't go loot shit, I'm better than that sorry. While I agree that the local and national government was totally useless during this whole disaster it dosen't justify shooting at national guard helicopters sent to help, killing cops and stealing big ass tv's etc. It's not like the world is ending, but since most people can't think further than a week ahead they over-react.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 16:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brash wrote:
Docter wrote:
Brash wrote:
Docter wrote:
Oh please...when a hurricane strikes SC or NC, like Hugo did...there was little to no looting.

In NO they looted an entire Wal-Mart...and so did the NO police.

There was no local plan in effect in NO for this hurricane.


apples and oranges and you know it ....


How so? Come on, I know exactly what you are going to say...but say it anyways, so everyone else can read it...



hugo was no where neer as devastating as Katrina ... not even close . 35 Americans died in that storm , thousands in Katrina . with Hugo only 56,000 people were left homeless . with Katrina hundreds of thousands of homes were destroyed leaving enormous amount of people homeless. They also prepared better for Hugo and didn;t have the police running for the hills .


really i think there is no end to the differences in these storms . comparing them is like comparing a suicide car bombing with 9/11


A comparison does neither storm justice. Although both were hurricanes, they were both under different circumstances.

I personally witnessed Hugo, having lived in charleston for 8 years, and the rebuilding efforts there were amazing. In fact, our neighborhood developed a sytem of relief for our own community. There were 4 or 5 families with chainsaws who started clearing our roads and piling the debris. There were also a dozen or so trucks that were still drivable which were used to get all of our neighborhoods debris to the main road where the professional debris crews could pick it all up in 1 bundle. We also had familes whose houses had 3 or 4 trees that were sticking out like spears. All of those families were given rest and shelter in one of the neighbors homes. The rest of us had enough food and water to last a week or 2.

Although charleston is AKA "The Low Country" its not nearly the death trap that L.O. was. I can tell you now, if I was living there a day before Katrina hit, I would have left for my own safety. It would have been hard to leave behind all my belongings but in the end my life is more important. Maybe these people were uneducated about hurricanes but i've been through 5 in my lifetime and its only common sense to know when you're living in a bowl below sea level that a hurricane is going to do some major damage.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 18:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

merdocc wrote:
No I wouldn't go loot shit, I'm better than that sorry. While I agree that the local and national government was totally useless during this whole disaster it dosen't justify shooting at national guard helicopters sent to help, killing cops and stealing big ass tv's etc. It's not like the world is ending, but since most people can't think further than a week ahead they over-react.



you are generalizing the acts of a few paranoid maniacs with guns as all these people.


and while you may be on a higher moral gound i doubt any of us could say what we would really do when put in the position of needing clean water and food to keep our children and loves ones alive.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 18:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not suprised. now they can get back for what my ancestors did to them!!!!
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There is a HUGE difference between looting for food and water and looting for profit while raping innocent women.
Youve lost your home, your belongings, probably some friends. Hey, I know, lets go tromp threw sewage and devistation and rape some chicks.
Oh yea, let me steal some big ass TV's too, cuz f**k I aint got no electricity nor a home or a car to carry it to. Brilliant!

Watching this on television has me considering stocking my basement with firearms. In the past, I was reluctant because of my children. Now I realize that for my children, it may become necessary to protect them.

I have never been a racist. Perhaps sometimes an elitist. When they showed 650 poverty stricken blacks arriving in Utah I was conflicted. Really made me take a hard look at myself. I wanted to offer my home to a family in need but wimped out not knowing who would show up on my doorstep and be allowed to interract with my little girls. Perhaps im not quite the humanitarian I wish I was. I donated financially but it just doesnt seem like enough. Perhaps I am more racist that I would like to admit. Perhaps the images the media constantly bombards me with have finally taken up residence in my mind.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 19:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No I wouldn't go loot shit, I'm better than that sorry.


Sorry, I don't buy that.

If you could steal $1,000,000 without fear of repercussion and without causing the owner financial (and physical) harm, almost everyone would do it. We'd like to believe we wouldn't, but it just depends on how far we have to go. (most people wouldn't do it at gunpoint, but if all you have to do is grab it...)

Now try to keep in mind that those thieves lost their homes and their property - if they had a job, chances are they won't anymore. So, no money and no hope - all could be fixed by grabbing some jewelry that is insured anyway. Is it legal? nope. Is it understandable?
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 19:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No I wouldn't go loot shit, I'm better than that sorry.


Sorry, I don't buy that.

If you could steal $1,000,000 without fear of repercussion and without causing the owner financial (and physical) harm, almost everyone would do it. We'd like to believe we wouldn't, but it just depends on how far we have to go. (most people wouldn't do it at gunpoint, but if all you have to do is grab it...)

Now try to keep in mind that those thieves lost their homes and their property - if they had a job, chances are they won't anymore. So, no money and no hope - all could be fixed by grabbing some jewelry that is insured anyway. Is it legal? nope. Is it understandable?


Not really. The reality is that anyone who was focused on the real issues of the situation (surviving, helping others, getting to safety) would be too busy trying to see a way out of the situation rather than trying to hoard petty items which in the end might be confiscated anyway. Its trials like these that separate the civil from the uncivil.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 19:21    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

wtf this isnt what i posted

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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 19:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just scares me that the first reaction these people had to having their shit f****d up, not by a person or group but by mother nature, is to steal other peoples stuff to make up for it. Not even going in to how a TV or jewelry is going to help you survive the week or so max that it's taken for aid to reach people. I think I will join you on the getting a gun trip.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 19:26    Post subject: Re: surprised by the looting ? Reply with quote

Obmar wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Brash wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Brash wrote:
surprise by the looting, why ?

if a tragedy of this magnitude happened across the street from you right this moment , would you rush to the store to get supplies ? when you got there if madness broke out and you were unable to pay for your items, would you be part of the looting mob or would you go home and tell your family , sorry i couldn't get anything in a legal manor so we wont be having water or food.


you left the poorest of the poor in the middle of the largest natural or unnatural disaster of our life times and then the police ran away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome. In fact you should be surprised it did not get worse .


Useless liberal child.


you would be the first one beating up people in the streets as you try to rip a roll of toilet paper and a jug of water out of their hands ... you been waiting all your life to walk down the streets and openly shoot people with zero discretion ....


I could have shot people at least 30 or 40 times over the years and been legit. I was chasing people holding weapons who would have been blasted by cops in 48 out of the 50 states. Never did.

Now....

If someone is breaking down my front door, they better watch out.

As I stated before I could sit in my house for months on end with NO help, if I needed too. And thats WITH electricity. This is assuming I am not injured beyond my capabilities to self treat. I also have 4 friends who are close and hooked up at least, if not better than I am. So in the end I would not be completely alone, its called planning ahead.

Anyone who is not prepared is stupid. Anyone who stayed and was not prepared is chronically stupid, they should be sterilized. I am talking about able bodies, like 95% of these idiots were. Not 90 year olds who are either all alone or abandoned by scumbags.

A thirty foot wave is coming.

You can either stay and swim or leave and be dry. After the wave comes, or doesn't come, then you can come back and look around.

The idiots are the ones on the roof blaming Bush and searching for food because they were not prepared.

The scumbags are looting raping and killing, while looking for food.

Both are idiots.




And you are a useless liberal child.


you sir, are once again, the idiot in the room


I don't expect you to understand. Its not important that you understand.

Police just killed 4 or 5 gunmen on a bridge in NO.


LOL, yeah its the Presidents fault...
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 19:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brash wrote:
merdocc wrote:
No I wouldn't go loot shit, I'm better than that sorry. While I agree that the local and national government was totally useless during this whole disaster it dosen't justify shooting at national guard helicopters sent to help, killing cops and stealing big ass tv's etc. It's not like the world is ending, but since most people can't think further than a week ahead they over-react.



you are generalizing the acts of a few paranoid maniacs with guns as all these people.


and while you may be on a higher moral gound i doubt any of us could say what we would really do when put in the position of needing clean water and food to keep our children and loves ones alive.


Useless liberal child.
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No I wouldn't go loot shit, I'm better than that sorry.


Sorry, I don't buy that.

If you could steal $1,000,000 without fear of repercussion and without causing the owner financial (and physical) harm, almost everyone would do it. We'd like to believe we wouldn't, but it just depends on how far we have to go. (most people wouldn't do it at gunpoint, but if all you have to do is grab it...)

Now try to keep in mind that those thieves lost their homes and their property - if they had a job, chances are they won't anymore. So, no money and no hope - all could be fixed by grabbing some jewelry that is insured anyway. Is it legal? nope. Is it understandable?


Idiot.

Socialist.
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PostPosted: 09/04/05 - 20:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Soriak wrote:
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No I wouldn't go loot shit, I'm better than that sorry.


Sorry, I don't buy that.

If you could steal $1,000,000 without fear of repercussion and without causing the owner financial (and physical) harm, almost everyone would do it. We'd like to believe we wouldn't, but it just depends on how far we have to go. (most people wouldn't do it at gunpoint, but if all you have to do is grab it...)

Now try to keep in mind that those thieves lost their homes and their property - if they had a job, chances are they won't anymore. So, no money and no hope - all could be fixed by grabbing some jewelry that is insured anyway. Is it legal? nope. Is it understandable?


Idiot.

Socialist.


What does this have to do with socialism? Of course you don't see wealthy people looting - they were able to afford insurance and thus won't be off (much) worse after this. This is an issue that only affects poor people, which (surprisingly) are the ones doing the looting.

And that jewelry store isn't off any worse than before the hurrican, they most certainly had insurance.


Also, how many people on TV have you seen being concerned about food and water? How many about their future? I'd think when you see everything destroyed, the first thoughts aren't how you're going to survive the week, but the uncertainty of your entire future. Everything you had, everything you knew - gone.
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