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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 18:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hasn't this same subject been told, retold, and killed over and over again?

We know Brash is retarded. THIS ISN'T A JOKE. Seriously, can't someone get off their ass and get delete-happy with Brash posts already?

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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 19:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brash wrote:
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everyone here can walk the high moral ground now but faced with a realistic threat that their children are going to starve to death or be forced to drink disease ridden water, their tunes will change dramatically.

your child's crying eyes can make you do allot of things you might never do otherwise.


How is taking anything besides food and water going to keep your kid alive?


not everyone was taking lawnmowers and cameras . The people who were thieves before the disaster most certainly took advantage of the disaster and did though. Most thieves are opportunists. Thieves also happen to generally be poor and in the lower classes of society (precisely the people we left behind) You should not be surprised that these thieves choose to take advantage of the moment and steel shit.

you are just abusing this to support your racist ideas.


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 19:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eindar wrote:
Tura wrote:
Eindar wrote:
Brael wrote:
Soriak wrote:
Do you think anyone is going to walk past a jewelry store with broken windows and say "oh wow, I just lost everything I have and this could instantly fix it. There's no repercussion for taking it, but I'm a good citizen, so I'll just keep walking. I wouldn't want to inconvenience the owner, who had to report the theft to his insurance to get the money back."


I would, it's called being honest.


Wow, you just lied about being honest.

Temptation is a b***h, and that's when you've got a nice warm home to go back to. You're obviously having trouble putting yourself in their shoes, or you've likely got a nice fat savings account that will be there, flood or no flood. These people have NOTHING. Yes, they need food and water now, but they're gonna need food and water later, too. Now, how can you tell the stupid looters from the smart ones? The guys hauling off TVs and crates full of sneakers are stupid. They MUST evacuate, and they're not going to let them on the bus with their 40" plasma. The smart looters will have taken jewelry, which can be hidden underneath clothes and used at pawn shops when they arrive in Houston to secure cash which will be used to purchase lodging and meals for the next, oh, 2-6 months. In fact, I'd say THOSE looters are smarter than you in that situation.

Would I shoot or get shot over some jewelry? No.

Would I raid the Wal-Mart for Xbox games? No.

If there was a highly portable, easily liquidated asset that is also easily obtainable, and I have no money, and no way of obtaining any once I reach my final destination, would I grab as much as possible? You bet your ass.


If you want to be honest about yourself then fine, but don't try to categorize everyone else under your own beliefs. Thats just selfish. As I stated earlier, if I were in the situation, the thought of looting would not even be an option because I guarantee you theres enough help needed over there to keep you busy for months.


You're falling into the same fallacy. You're putting Tura on the street, who has an education, and a comfortable lifestyle. You have no reason to steal, because when you get out of the hellhole of New Orleans, you will pull out your debit card and get the supplies you need.

90% of these buys were barely making ends meet before the hurricane. Now they have NOTHING, and no way to get anything for the next 6 months. For the ones stealing easily liquidated, portable assets, this isn't about survival now, it's about survival later.

The idiots stealing Saints jerseys and microwaves can rot in hell, though, they're just plain old idiots Smile


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 19:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gethy wrote:
Hasn't this same subject been told, retold, and killed over and over again?

We know Brash is retarded. THIS ISN'T A JOKE. Seriously, can't someone get off their ass and get delete-happy with Brash posts already?

This forum needs more locked threads.


no mods/admins give a f**k
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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 20:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frax wrote:
Gethy wrote:
Hasn't this same subject been told, retold, and killed over and over again?

We know Brash is retarded. THIS ISN'T A JOKE. Seriously, can't someone get off their ass and get delete-happy with Brash posts already?

This forum needs more locked threads.


no mods/admins give a f**k


yeah, this isn't Nazipoor!

It's not hard to not click on threads you have no interest in. Spam monitering and NWS tagging is all any mod should be doing.
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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 20:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brael wrote:
Brash, no one cares about the people taking food/water, you keep confusing that with people going around looting tv's, shoes, jewelry, watches, etc...

Eindar, I've been in situations similar to those people before so I'm pretty damn sure I know what I would do. Just because you would contribute to society breaking down in that case doesn't mean everyone would.


what % of the people are steeling goods other and supplies then ? does it even make up a number large enough to even talk about ? please don't formulate a number on your own based of a handful of news clips you saw where a few people were ripping off stores other than supermarkets ...


again you shouldn't be surprised when you leave all the poor behind that a healthy number of them will be thieves
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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 20:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brash wrote:
Brael wrote:
Brash, no one cares about the people taking food/water, you keep confusing that with people going around looting tv's, shoes, jewelry, watches, etc...

Eindar, I've been in situations similar to those people before so I'm pretty damn sure I know what I would do. Just because you would contribute to society breaking down in that case doesn't mean everyone would.


what % of the people are steeling goods other and supplies then ? does it even make up a number large enough to even talk about ? please don't formulate a number on your own based of a handful of news clips you saw where a few people were ripping off stores other than supermarkets ...


again you shouldn't be surprised when you leave all the poor behind that a healthy number of them will be thieves


You're the one defending the looters, so you come up with the numbers.

Edit: don't forget to cite your sources.
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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 20:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pags wrote:
Frax wrote:
Gethy wrote:
Hasn't this same subject been told, retold, and killed over and over again?

We know Brash is retarded. THIS ISN'T A JOKE. Seriously, can't someone get off their ass and get delete-happy with Brash posts already?

This forum needs more locked threads.


no mods/admins give a f**k


yeah, this isn't Nazipoor!

It's not hard to not click on threads you have no interest in. Spam monitering and NWS tagging is all any mod should be doing.


f**k that. This board would be a lot more interesting if we had a mod that would close s****y, rehashed threads; the idiots would have someone to collectively hate--other than Kbarr.
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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 21:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brash wrote:
Brael wrote:
Brash, no one cares about the people taking food/water, you keep confusing that with people going around looting tv's, shoes, jewelry, watches, etc...

Eindar, I've been in situations similar to those people before so I'm pretty damn sure I know what I would do. Just because you would contribute to society breaking down in that case doesn't mean everyone would.


what % of the people are steeling goods other and supplies then ? does it even make up a number large enough to even talk about ? please don't formulate a number on your own based of a handful of news clips you saw where a few people were ripping off stores other than supermarkets ...


again you shouldn't be surprised when you leave all the poor behind that a healthy number of them will be thieves



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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 21:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gethy wrote:
Pags wrote:
Frax wrote:
Gethy wrote:
Hasn't this same subject been told, retold, and killed over and over again?

We know Brash is retarded. THIS ISN'T A JOKE. Seriously, can't someone get off their ass and get delete-happy with Brash posts already?

This forum needs more locked threads.


no mods/admins give a f**k


yeah, this isn't Nazipoor!

It's not hard to not click on threads you have no interest in. Spam monitering and NWS tagging is all any mod should be doing.


f**k that. This board would be a lot more interesting if we had a mod that would close s****y, rehashed threads; the idiots would have someone to collectively hate--other than Kbarr.


I could do that, but I'd also ban some fucktards Razz
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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 21:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gethy wrote:
Pags wrote:
Frax wrote:
Gethy wrote:
Hasn't this same subject been told, retold, and killed over and over again?

We know Brash is retarded. THIS ISN'T A JOKE. Seriously, can't someone get off their ass and get delete-happy with Brash posts already?

This forum needs more locked threads.


no mods/admins give a f**k


yeah, this isn't Nazipoor!

It's not hard to not click on threads you have no interest in. Spam monitering and NWS tagging is all any mod should be doing.


f**k that. This board would be a lot more interesting if we had a mod that would close s****y, rehashed threads; the idiots would have someone to collectively hate--other than Kbarr.


Leave my idiots alone.
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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 21:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Gethy wrote:
Pags wrote:
Frax wrote:
Gethy wrote:
Hasn't this same subject been told, retold, and killed over and over again?

We know Brash is retarded. THIS ISN'T A JOKE. Seriously, can't someone get off their ass and get delete-happy with Brash posts already?

This forum needs more locked threads.


no mods/admins give a f**k


yeah, this isn't Nazipoor!

It's not hard to not click on threads you have no interest in. Spam monitering and NWS tagging is all any mod should be doing.


f**k that. This board would be a lot more interesting if we had a mod that would close s****y, rehashed threads; the idiots would have someone to collectively hate--other than Kbarr.


Leave my idiots alone.


This made me think about Charlton Heston.
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PostPosted: 09/05/05 - 21:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gethy wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Gethy wrote:
Pags wrote:
Frax wrote:
Gethy wrote:
Hasn't this same subject been told, retold, and killed over and over again?

We know Brash is retarded. THIS ISN'T A JOKE. Seriously, can't someone get off their ass and get delete-happy with Brash posts already?

This forum needs more locked threads.


no mods/admins give a f**k


yeah, this isn't Nazipoor!

It's not hard to not click on threads you have no interest in. Spam monitering and NWS tagging is all any mod should be doing.


f**k that. This board would be a lot more interesting if we had a mod that would close s****y, rehashed threads; the idiots would have someone to collectively hate--other than Kbarr.


Leave my idiots alone.


This made me think about Charlton Heston.


/salute

Mourn Charlton...
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PostPosted: 09/09/05 - 13:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard there's a new GTA in the making...

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PostPosted: 09/09/05 - 13:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eindar wrote:
Tura wrote:
Eindar wrote:
Brael wrote:
Soriak wrote:
Do you think anyone is going to walk past a jewelry store with broken windows and say "oh wow, I just lost everything I have and this could instantly fix it. There's no repercussion for taking it, but I'm a good citizen, so I'll just keep walking. I wouldn't want to inconvenience the owner, who had to report the theft to his insurance to get the money back."


I would, it's called being honest.


Wow, you just lied about being honest.

Temptation is a b***h, and that's when you've got a nice warm home to go back to. You're obviously having trouble putting yourself in their shoes, or you've likely got a nice fat savings account that will be there, flood or no flood. These people have NOTHING. Yes, they need food and water now, but they're gonna need food and water later, too. Now, how can you tell the stupid looters from the smart ones? The guys hauling off TVs and crates full of sneakers are stupid. They MUST evacuate, and they're not going to let them on the bus with their 40" plasma. The smart looters will have taken jewelry, which can be hidden underneath clothes and used at pawn shops when they arrive in Houston to secure cash which will be used to purchase lodging and meals for the next, oh, 2-6 months. In fact, I'd say THOSE looters are smarter than you in that situation.

Would I shoot or get shot over some jewelry? No.

Would I raid the Wal-Mart for Xbox games? No.

If there was a highly portable, easily liquidated asset that is also easily obtainable, and I have no money, and no way of obtaining any once I reach my final destination, would I grab as much as possible? You bet your ass.


If you want to be honest about yourself then fine, but don't try to categorize everyone else under your own beliefs. Thats just selfish. As I stated earlier, if I were in the situation, the thought of looting would not even be an option because I guarantee you theres enough help needed over there to keep you busy for months.


You're falling into the same fallacy. You're putting Tura on the street, who has an education, and a comfortable lifestyle. You have no reason to steal, because when you get out of the hellhole of New Orleans, you will pull out your debit card and get the supplies you need.

90% of these buys were barely making ends meet before the hurricane. Now they have NOTHING, and no way to get anything for the next 6 months. For the ones stealing easily liquidated, portable assets, this isn't about survival now, it's about survival later.

The idiots stealing Saints jerseys and microwaves can rot in hell, though, they're just plain old idiots Smile


It doesn't matter who you are in these situations. I see what you're saying about people wanting to secure a future for themselves and their families, but looting random valuables isn't going to help them or the situation. I guarantee you these people are going to be taken care of from charities and support organizations. Theres already more support for these hurricane victims than 9-11 and the asian tsunami combined. The only thing they should be concerned with right now is helping in the re-building process and keeping themselves healthy...whether rich or poor.
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