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Sabalo
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Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Posts: 2162
Location: Olympia, Washington
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 10:15 Post subject: shakerpage question
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i got an earthshaker recently and i havnt tried using it for actual exp. i know how to do it and all. anyone know if i can do it solo or do i need a buddy with me.
also what zones the best for doin it? i heard pofire.
yard 1? yard 2? both yards? every single mob in the zone?
how much should i pull to be able to kill em all solo?
thanks in advance
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Okami
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 2242
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 10:53 Post subject:
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from what I remember, people liked doing it in poearth.
Teamed with a shammy so he can slow you , so it proc's more.
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Frax
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 8489
Location: Fuck yoiu fucking fuckers
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 12:07 Post subject:
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Doubt you will be able to kill any elemental stuff solo with it. We used to do it with 3 or 4 warriors, a cleric and a slower.
Solo you can do PoI
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Vekril
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Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 2525
Location: Jersey
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 12:50 Post subject:
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what was that trick again?
something about the rampage discipline or something combined with the AE proc?
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Frax
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 8489
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 12:59 Post subject:
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It's a side effect of how procs work in EQ, I can't explain the math part of it...but it takes all of the following things to work succesfully:
1) Lots of mobs
2) rampage
3) AE weapon with a long delay (earthshaker is 70 delay if i remember correct)
4) removing haste items
5) Having your attack rate slowed
The AE on the earthshaker is just enough (246 AE ) that with enough mobs you can get off 30-40 procs in a large pull... thats enough to kill mobs with 7-8,000 HP each... add more warriors for more damage, or to kill higher HP mobs. The few times we had succesfull rampages in Pofire we pulled off more than an AA per pull. But we died.. a lot
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Vekril
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Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 2525
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 13:17 Post subject:
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oh yeah, I remember talking to some warrior about that while I was quadding Fire on Belakar - sounded like it was worth it for the rush and fun aspect, but not the exp when you factor in pull time and deaths - wizards owned that part, used to get about 80% of an AA in 12 minutes or so quadding tables, with about 1-2 minutes downtime between pulls
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Starks
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Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 865
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 14:20 Post subject:
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It's hard to do pofire mobs, but if you have enough of them, slowed, and with 3 warriors, you can do it. Always had a bard pull, all the mephits and junk, almost the whole yard1 would be on his tail, but doesn't work so well anymore with the PBAE dot nerf bards had. But with really good pulls, you could rake in about 2 aa's per 30-40 mins.
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Kilzalot
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Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Posts: 2080
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 14:46 Post subject:
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Yea dude you need like 4 Warriors to clear a PoFire field. Take your armor and haste gear off so a shammy can land slow on you. A Bard is really nice to have as well so they can get a giant train together.
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motherface
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Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Posts: 3407
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 15:08 Post subject:
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If I remember, proc rate is built into the weapon and is defined per minute. So if you have haste items, your procs-per-swing decreases. If you duel a shaman and have them slow you, your procs-per-swing increases (since you're swinging less but the procs-per-minute remains the same).
I think there are some GoD+ focus items that have like Cleave on them which increases proc rate?
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Carnican
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 719
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 15:17 Post subject:
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Read This Steel Warrior thread and see it's not a "I got an Earthshaker; I can rule!" situation.
You need a few other factors to line up before you get the success that you 'heard' of.
Tho once it happens:
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Kilzalot
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Someone
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Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 929
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 17:55 Post subject:
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That son of a b***h, Tonoi, didn't do jack except leach the exp and loot the corpses like a mofo on that shakerpage. Son of a b***h! You can do it with 3 or even 2 warriors if you pull enough mobs.
b*****d Tonoi!
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Carnican
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 719
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 18:35 Post subject:
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Why is a ranger weilding an Earthshaker in those pics?
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Venkmen
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Joined: 12 Oct 2002 Posts: 2260
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 20:04 Post subject:
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Not sure how good it would be at 70, but if you do the keg turn in thing if Fungus Grove you can get like a shit tone of mobs. Get 4 people to turn in four kegs each for a shitload of mobs.
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Occulis
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 21:28 Post subject:
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"Shakerpage" is such a cool word.
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Merican
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Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 1491
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Posted: 02/03/05 - 23:17 Post subject:
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damn that was fun ... i did that a lot.... i tried to do it solo like 6 times too haha.... i didnt care about dieing and losing exp, Just go afk let body pop.. rez with clr bot.. go for it again... hah
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Mishra
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Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 196
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Posted: 02/04/05 - 21:03 Post subject:
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you can only do field one mobs from memory, as field two have mobs with hp way to high.
Motherface said it pretty well. You get 2 procs per minute on almost all weapons, so you take off your haste items and get shaman slowed to reduce the amount of swings you can take in that minute. When you press rampage, EQ has it calculate a chance to proc on every single mob in the pull, even though it's only one swing. So the more mobs you get, the better. (so more procs go off and you do more total damage).
It's fun to do a few times, but you'd probably get xp faster if you just went to castle 2 and killed there with a cleric bot.
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Kaashka
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Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 19
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Posted: 02/11/05 - 01:16 Post subject:
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AE warrior parties were fun to watch, but they just could not compare to 17AA every half hour as a solo bard in PoF.
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Occulis
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
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Posted: 02/11/05 - 09:13 Post subject:
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| Kaashka wrote: | | AE warrior parties were fun to watch, but they just could not compare to 17AA every half hour as a solo bard in PoF. |
Even with 900 AA, though, they're still just bards.
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Khabok
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 65
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Posted: 02/15/05 - 17:45 Post subject:
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At 65 Fungus Grove is probably the best bet, but to really make it work you need to have 2 computers and 2 accounts. I used to use 3 comps and could get a half an AA each for the War and Shaman combo. It can get a bit expensive but if you can manage to loot the corpses you kill you get about half the cost of the kegs back from the eyes and stuff they drop. Was also getting decent tribute off all the named loot but you have to finish them off after the AE's as they have too many HP's to get taken out with the rest.
How it works is a Keg turn in will spawn 4 mobs every 2 minutes for up to 5 rounds, after that they start to despawn. So a 4 keg turn in is 16 mobs times 5 rounds for 80. Double or triple that using multiple comps to each turn in 4 kegs at exact same time.
And past level 65 the exp starts slowing fast, lost about 25% when I went up to 66 and never tried it above that.
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