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fheargus
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 Posted: 06/23/03 - 16:19 Post subject: my opinion of star wars galaxies
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this is my opinion of swg from my 3 months of beta.
1 this game IS a leveling treadmill, i cant see why anyone else cant see that. combat professions seem to level faster than artisan/dancer professions. once game goes live, i would expect sony to turn back exp gain like they did in planetside, making leveling even harder than it was in beta.
2 if you are not into PvP, i cant see why you would play a combat class char once you max out his level. in other games (mainly eq) you raid for items to make your char bettor or exp play for aa's. since there will be NO drops in swg you could buy all the best stuff, then just need to repair/replace as things decay. artisan types can ply thier trade forever, since people will always want houses, clothes, weapons etc. but what will keep a combat type toon playing past max level?
3 scs (single character servers) if you want to try a new class, you have few options. recreate on a different server leaving PA and freinds behind. you can delete char or delete just the chars skills and start over. but who in the hell wants to delete a maxxed out toon?! if in future exp they bring out a new playable race, you will have to go to a new server to play it, if you dont unlock a FS slot.
3 doctors, i started one of these and got him almost to maxxed novice medic. but who in the f**k wants to sit in a hopsital for the whole life of your char to heal ungrateful people that get healed, offer no orgs or credits then just run off. i never required it but in order for me to advance i needed credits to buy orgs or people to donate orgs. some of the f*****s would send me a tell after saying since i got exp for healing they were not tipping/donating then would run off selling their orgs. (orgs = organic components used to make medicines for healing).
4 dancers, ugh see doctors above. this (for me) was a mind numbing worthless class.
5 graphics, the worlds were pretty cool but char graphics movements were pretty lame, imo. male chars run like girls. and there are no special graphic moves in combat, least i didnt notice different movements. the worlds were randomly created, so you would be running around and there are these huge deep fissures in the planets all over the place and without explore 1 in order to go up any hill, you creep along painfully slow. explore 1 -4 allows you to travel uphill faster with each level, which is a stupid idea imo. tatooine will blind you if you dont turn gamma correction down and contrast up, all those light colors makes it a very bright world. and i couldnt find anyway to change the text color on the hud for the names of npc's buildings, it is default white. so on tat with the city map up against the background of sand and buildings it is very hard to read the names.
6 cities, i would expect the cities to be much larger but unfortunately they seemed very small, more like villages. i was on tat, corellia and naboo and most cities on those 3 planets.
7 the chat screens seem cumbersome and hard to read.
8 forced socialization (down time), i always was against this. forcing people to sit in cantinas to heal battle fatigue (it really doesnt take that long) and to need to visit the hospital to heal wounds (this is the big time killer) is rediculous. healing is very slow and may be 8 people per doctor just sitting around waiting thier turn to be healed.
9 bazzar terminals, these never did work, at least for very long, all through beta. most people just shouted sales through the city like east commons.
10 lag, there wasnt alot of lag normally and it did get bettor as game progressed through beta. but occasionally there was a monster memory leak (up to late last week) that delayed everything by 10 - 45 secs and made crafting/mining impossible. during memory leak, the crafting tools will not open to allow crafting and you could not mine raw materials.
11 overall, game is not ready. i felt the devs were feeling heat and needed to rush the game out since it was so late for going live. they cut many things and left things broke in order to fix them after going live. harvestors and factories, which are huge for artisan classes, were not working as of early last week.
conclusion, i will not be buying this game. i would suggest people to not buy it for 6 months at the minimum, in order for things to get fixed and settle down. there is no SW feel to the game, its like uo in space.
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goatface
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Posted: 06/25/03 - 00:28 Post subject:
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nice write up
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Kindom
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Posted: 06/29/03 - 00:41 Post subject:
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fheargus was too kind... i beta it for a month.. couldnt stand it , and never cameback..
i agree with all he said above. horrible setup but graphically good.. devs should of kept it in beta till end of the year at the least.
tells never worked, sever crashed often and mobs warped all over.
did they ever fix the /con ? cuz it was always fun to run up to a mob and never know if he was hard or not .. anyway in beta they gave us some end game chitin armor with equally powerful weapons. mobs that conned even or a tad higher were very hard to kill solo.. i couldnt imagine playin in newbie gear
another point is the non existant class system.. sure theres tons of classes but when u are able to be 3.5 classes. CMON what stupidity
basically u have to b a brawler ( tankage and hp ) and a marksman for range attacks.. that leaves u with 1.5 classes
if u insist on playin this game i would go human empire! wookies cant wear armor so fek em.. i would start out as a brawler.. that would give u more hp and let u tank mobs way better.. i would concentrate on some 2hd melee weapon. i would then train as a marksman / medic.. marksman i would do rifle/carbine. This setup would let u target a mob at range.. get a few shots in with ur rifle, when mob closes switch to melee
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Haphasto
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: 06/30/03 - 00:39 Post subject: Are you kidding me?
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This writeup compares to nothing in the game, my character doesn't run like a girl, all though I guess thats what it can look like when you smoke too much hash. There are tons of animations in fighting, what the hell am I susposed to do with a gun? Throw it in the air and go matrix style? I can roll, dive, and kick up shoot, alot more than EQ.
Every class has a specific role in a group, without the enertainers you will always have battle fatigue, without the medics you can't heal, it's a class based system where everyone has a certain role, and each role has a place for a certain person or persons. Fighting classes are fun to play they get tons of skills in their novice training, and their secondary trainings. You don't just play one specific class anyway, you take up several rolls, for expample my character is a marksman, scout, and an artisan. And yes it may take time to get some skills, but if it didn't you would have 1000 jedis and bounty hunters running around already. I think the experience system works great.
The missions, battles, and trading activities keep many others, and myself wanting to keep coming back for more. Beta is alot different than live, so how can you critisize a game that hasn't even been given a chance to live up to its potential. BTW the Bazaar terminals work perfectly.
Everyone has their own opinion, it's just that yours licks my dirty anus I could not disagree with your assessments or assumptions any less. This game runs over EverQuest like a semi over a jack rabbit. If you are focused on loot then this is not your game and you should stick to EverQuest, but if you want to play an awesome MMORPG that focuses more on how you play, and how good your skills are than what you are wearing then I highly suggest SWG. That's my 2 cents, if you don't like it you can stick it up your d**k hole.
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Finigan
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Posted: 06/30/03 - 02:42 Post subject:
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So Hephasto... You're on the SWG payroll?
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fheargus
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Posted: 06/30/03 - 08:21 Post subject:
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i cant help it if you grew up wanting to suck han solo's light saber (that would be a reference to his penis btw, in case your to slow to catch it).
i will admit there are a few rolls and stuff as "moves" but as far as i can tell they did nothing to help or hinder combat.
aside from the battle fields and the jedi profession, most everything was in beta. i am not judging this game solo on beta, though i did on earth and beyond and eve that i seemed to be correct on. in fact the only thing two things i even brought up about the game that could be determined a beta thing was the lag and the bazaar terminals. everything else was pretty complete. the only good graphics was the environement, toons looked cheap and when you ran as a guy with a pistol your arms flopped around wildly and with a rifle/carbine they hardly moved (i understand that since you probably run this way for the new copy of backstreet boys or brittany spears cd's you wouldnt see a problem with this).
go back to using your light saber as a anal probe (you probably have been through alot of these since you first watched star wars) and play your stupid game, and i guarantee you that they will bring many many changes in the next year to get people to come back or buy it.
one last thing, i have never blasted for someone they have said or an opinion, but you sir attacked me first. im sure you are very much like most anonymous posters on bb's (big and bad when no one could possibly know who you are) and i guarantee in real life you would not speak to me like that and walk away from it with all your teeth.
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Haphasto
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Posted: 06/30/03 - 09:18 Post subject:
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Actually f**k face considering you are probably a 130 pound 13 year old p***k that has never had a woman in his life, I would say this to your face. Your little writeup sucked c**k, straight and simple. The only reason you critisize the game is because you are too into EverQuest to accept that something might be better than it, EverQuest is a dead horse and has met its match.
I didn't attack you, you attacked me with that shit of a review you gave, I still find none of these problems that you speak of. I hate when little chode lickers like you think you know all about a game and put it down just to get attention.
You are very well entitled to your own opinion, I just didn't like it and I told you why I didn't like it, so if you have a problem with that you can suck my hairy balls. You seem to have a fasination with sticking things up other peoples asses, I guess when your daddy stuffs his "lightsaber" up your ass every night thats what happens. Actually no I wouldn't say this to your face, instead if I saw you face to face I'd take the blunt end of my base ball bat to your f*****g temple.
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fheargus
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Posted: 06/30/03 - 11:16 Post subject:
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wow somebodies little panties are in a bunch.
actually i do believe eq is the best game ever made. but i stopped playing it over a year ago in hopes someone would eventually come out with something bettor, alas they have not. soe took a great idea (i actually was never a SW fan) and turned it into a cluster f**k of a p**s poor game. you go ahead and pay your 15 bucks a month and in 6 months when you are frustrated of soe's lies and delays brining things lies or have nothing left to do in this PoS, you can back here and formally appogize to me and tell everyone how right i was. until then you are not allowed back to this board.
so if i was a 130lb 13 year old you would say something to my face, BIG MAN you are, you are the one thats probably 13. otherwise if a was even a standard sized adult male, you would need a bat, you sound like a real tough guy.
you have propbably been p****d on, beat up and sodomized (without someone paying for your dinner) for quite a few years. you are a pitiful person it seems.
your quotes of "sucking your balls" and "licking your hairy anus" sound very much like your either a child or an adult (i use this term loosely) looking for an argument. yu also forgot the great comeback "i hope you die ________ (enter how). so i will not further your little fun with anymore replies. you and one other are the only two to post hear that say you like the game, everyone else seems to agree with ME. if anyone else would like to jump in and rip this little f**k whole a new, please fill free, im not going to enertain himany longer. its summer kiddie go outside and see what thats like, you might even find a big hairy boyfriend that will buy you things and take you to the movies and dinner for "FAVORS" i would also like to know if anyone reads this that has the power to see what other accounts are used by this f**k tard, could be interesting to found out who it is.
anyway, im done for now. WWJD, oh i know, i forgive you.
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Haphasto
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Posted: 06/30/03 - 13:08 Post subject:
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I forgot....I hope you die_________(enter how). The only reason no body gives a f**k about the game on these forums is because you are still hooked on a game that focuses ONLY on loot and greed. You waist about 10 hours getting 1 level, or spend 5 months to get flagged for one zone that you will get bored of in about a week.
I am not say SWG is the greatest MMORPG to date, but it is good. I may not play it for more than 2 weeks, who knows? I am saying that it is worth the try. The game of course has some problems with it, you tell me one MMORPG that has came out on its debut and not have problems with it? If there is one I would love to try it. I've been playing EverQuest since '99 and the game still has tons of f*****g issues with it.
Maybe I went over the line flaming your little write-up, but thats how I felt, and I decided to tell you how I felt. It appears that I already got to you or else you wouldn't be so p****d off over the replys I leave. In my mind I already finished this when I posted my first thread. But I already know in about 1 hour I will come back to read something like "You little f****r, go stick this and that up your ass, and go have gay ****!!!"....frankly I don't give a shit, I don't think i'm some "BIG MAN" infact I probably couldn't win a fight if I tried, but despite that I will still defend myself, just how you are.
I'm finished so just STFU....BTW Jesus forgives you.
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Mogling
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Posted: 06/30/03 - 13:52 Post subject:
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| Haphasto_S wrote: | | I am not say SWG is the greatest MMORPG to date, but it is good. I may not play it for more than 2 weeks, who knows? I am saying that it is worth the try. The game of course has some problems with it, you tell me one MMORPG that has came out on its debut and not have problems with it? If there is one I would love to try it. I've been playing EverQuest since '99 and the game still has tons of f*****g issues with it. |
A Tale in the Desert. Went from taking the servers down at the end of beta to live in a matter of hours. When the servers went up the game was almost flawless... Oh its also not a "loot" orented game so I bet you will like it....
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Minion
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Posted: 06/30/03 - 18:16 Post subject:
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Best thread ever.
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NickPSH
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Posted: 06/30/03 - 20:56 Post subject:
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Buy my account Beelz.
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Zuldane
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Posted: 07/01/03 - 12:56 Post subject:
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This is one of the reasons that I enjoy life
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Kindom
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Posted: 07/13/03 - 20:50 Post subject:
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this thread would own if haphasto had a point, in that it was a good game..
its not. and its not even close .. it should of been in beta at least till end of the year and release a final product.. BUT soe has a fekkin long trackrecord of releasing shit, delayin content after release
look at blizzard who spent 6 months of stress beta on wc3 tft.. i look forward to WoW and c what they do.
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Goraz
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Posted: 07/14/03 - 00:09 Post subject:
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while I agree the game isn't nearly closed to finished, it keeps you occupied until WoW comes out 
It does kill time in preparation for better MMORPGS.
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TrueParadox
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Posted: 07/20/03 - 10:36 Post subject:
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| Kindom wrote: | this thread would own if haphasto had a point, in that it was a good game..
its not. and its not even close .. it should of been in beta at least till end of the year and release a final product.. BUT soe has a fekkin long trackrecord of releasing shit, delayin content after release
look at blizzard who spent 6 months of stress beta on wc3 tft.. i look forward to WoW and c what they do. |
WoW is for teh 11 year old p**s drinkers. WoW is monkey juice. WoW should come with a pocket p***y for all the blazing retards who play it so they can see what they look like without having to get out of their chair and go look in a mirror.
WoW and BLIZZARD are GHEY!
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Banzai
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Posted: 07/21/03 - 01:27 Post subject:
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This thread should be sticky for at least the next 6 months.
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Occulis
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Posted: 08/05/03 - 18:55 Post subject: Re: my opinion of star wars galaxies
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| fheargus wrote: | this is my opinion of swg from my 3 months of beta.
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I'll try to match each one with a reply and not flame.
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1 this game IS a leveling treadmill, i cant see why anyone else cant see that. |
mmorpg = levelling or skill treadmill. this complaint is invalid.
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2 if you are not into PvP, i cant see why you would play a combat class char once you max out his level.
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Some people do not play to attain. Some people play to play. Therefore, maxxing out a skill does not immediately make the character boring.
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artisan types can ply thier trade forever, since people will always want houses, clothes, weapons etc. but what will keep a combat type toon playing past max level?
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Story lines? Not having to do the 'levelling treadmill' you seemed so opposed to? Make up your mind. Either you hate levelling, or you want levelling to go on forever.
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3 scs (single character servers) if you want to try a new class, you have few options. recreate on a different server leaving PA and freinds behind. you can delete char or delete just the chars skills and start over. but who in the hell wants to delete a maxxed out toon?! if in future exp they bring out a new playable race, you will have to go to a new server to play it, if you dont unlock a FS slot.
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This is true.
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3 doctors, i started one of these and got him almost to maxxed novice medic. but who in the f**k wants to sit in a hopsital for the whole life of your char to heal ungrateful people that ...
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/addfriend and /invite are great tools to learn to use. also available are /say and /tell.
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4 dancers, ugh see doctors above. this (for me) was a mind numbing worthless class.
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Haven't played one, but I would imagine most dancers have a secondary (or even primary) skillset.
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5 graphics, the worlds were pretty cool but char graphics movements were pretty lame, imo. male chars run like girls. and there are no special graphic moves in combat, least i didnt notice different movements.
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It musta changed since you played. I see none of this, sorry.
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the worlds were randomly created, so you would be running around and there are these huge deep fissures in the planets all over the place and without explore 1 in order to go up any hill, you creep along painfully slow.
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I come from Tribes and Tribes 2 where terrain was tacitally very, very important. Maybe you need to see a group of 5 or so friends taking down some of the opposing faction. If people have to run uphill to engage you in melee, and you're a sniper...
| fheargus wrote: | tatooine will blind you if you dont turn gamma correction down and contrast up, all those light colors makes it a very bright world.
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Reminds me of the old joke: "How many (women / union strikers / etc) does it take to change a light bulb? None! They just sit in the dark and b***h."
| fheargus wrote: | and i couldnt find anyway to change the text color on the hud for the names of npc's buildings, it is default white. so on tat with the city map up against the background of sand and buildings it is very hard to read the names.
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Can't help ya there.
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6 cities, i would expect the cities to be much larger but unfortunately they seemed very small, more like villages. i was on tat, corellia and naboo and most cities on those 3 planets.
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I find the cities to be too big. It takes my character about 3 minutes to walk from 1 side to the other, and this is with the help of the in-game map HUD.
| Quote: | | 7 the chat screens seem cumbersome and hard to read. |
You can change the fonts.
| Quote: | | 8 forced socialization (down time), i always was against this. |
I find that really easy to believe given the preceding comments.
| Quote: | | forcing people to sit in cantinas to heal battle fatigue (it really doesnt take that long) and to need to visit the hospital to heal wounds (this is the big time killer) is rediculous. |
My wounds heal just fine at a campsite, which I've been able to set up since about 10 minutes into the game. Sure, it takes a while. If I wanted 0 downtime and nothing but murder I'd go play Quake.
| Quote: | | healing is very slow and may be 8 people per doctor just sitting around waiting thier turn to be healed. |
Maybe this has changed since beta.
| Quote: | | 9 bazzar terminals, these never did work, at least for very long, all through beta. most people just shouted sales through the city like east commons. |
They work now, and it's better than the Luclin Bazaar.
| Quote: | | 10 lag, there wasnt alot of lag normally and it did get bettor as game progressed through beta. but occasionally there was a monster memory leak (up to late last week) that delayed everything by 10 - 45 secs and made crafting/mining impossible. during memory leak, the crafting tools will not open to allow crafting and you could not mine raw materials. |
I haven't seen this and I do lots of crafting. Cannot comment, sorry.
| Quote: | | 11 overall, game is not ready. i felt the devs were feeling heat and needed to rush the game out since it was so late for going live. they cut many things and left things broke in order to fix them after going live. harvestors and factories, which are huge for artisan classes, were not working as of early last week. |
No mmorpg game is ever 'fully ready' and never will be. They are all works in progress. I thought you played EQ?
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merdocc
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Posted: 08/05/03 - 21:18 Post subject:
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it's called beta for a reason. They dont want you to enjoy the game they want you to stress test it. I've played games (eve online for example) where the beta was completely different than the actual game.
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Haphasto
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Posted: 11/22/03 - 22:26 Post subject:
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had to come back to this thread, read what I had posted back in the summer and correct...first off sorry Fheargus, you were right . The game blows lol, I quit after the first week and a half. ALOT of potential. It was really a good game for the first week, but you slowly realize that you are advancing your character for no particular reason at all. Not sure if some things have changed or not, quit back in early August.
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fheargus
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Posted: 12/13/03 - 23:28 Post subject:
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thats exactly what i was trying to say. a mmorpg must have drops to keep interest after a time. players level far to fast and get bored if there is no point after you max out.
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