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kbarr
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What country are you from?
I think its canada.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Samiam
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 16:22 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: |
What country are you from?
I think its canada.
Correct me if I'm wrong. |
I have a closet full of toques to prove it.
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Spiritz
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 17:27 Post subject:
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Kbarr, we already went over this. When you resort to one word responses that are insulting in nature, you have lost.
Fact is my narrowminded friend, I agree with you on all issues with respects to what is going on currently in that area.
But the bottom line is it could have been prevented. (I'm not talking about the hurricane, I'm talking about what has happened AFTER, and not about the f*****g water or levee's - I'm talking about the animals.)
PS. Since you say I'm an idiot when I said Bush is the HNIC I assume then you have changed your mind on who is in charge? Who is the boss of me then?
People, including the President need to own their b******t. f**k even Bush admitted the efforts were unacceptable. Maybe you should follow your idol.
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Kayas
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 19:44 Post subject:
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Dear Xammer,
My Hero.
Love,
Kayas
P.S. I hate how people jump to conclusions about rumors without knowing the facts. I for one was apalled at first to hear this rumor but did not buy into it till facts were straight. I looked on the interweb and found similar facts as you did to how long this potential problem has been known.
I'm sure before this last monday, the citizens of New Orleans perhaps joked that if a big storm came that they could be in big trouble just as the entirety of Southern California jokes that those in Arizona could have beach front property when the San Andreas finally blows it's load. The point is that this was not an unknown problem. It was not a mystery. There were dozens of points of failure and when one or two failed it was catastrophic. When Los Angeles falls into the ocean I guess that's going to be the President's fault too. Get it? Fault? It's the bard in me, I could not help it.
Putting the devestation of a natural disaster onto the shoulders of a single man is ludicrous. The knowledge has been known for 40+ years. Last year's near miss with Hurricane Ivan should have been a wake up call for some people. Lets not forget that Ivan was also a Category 5 as it approached Lousiana/Mississippi and luckily slowed to a category 2 as it neared land. Note the picture I have provided.
Everyone seemed to turn the other way and ignore it like most other inconviences that we choose not to deal with. The blame can not be on one man. An entire city, state and country ignored this potential disaster for 40+ years. Bush is only a scapegoat.
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Dear Banzai,
I have composed a haiku in your honor. I hope you enjoy it.
Calm the f**k down sir.
The world is not about you.
Get over yourself.
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Akronn
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Yes, Ivan should've been a wake-up call. Anyone with a simple grasp of science should've realized that a city located in a bowl surrounded by water was doomed. It only lasted this long because the erosion of the gulf coast (thanks to man redirecting the Mississippi, thus disallowing the delta to expand) and land subsidence wasn't severe enough.
However, giving George Bush a free pass here would simply be ignorant. No, he wasn't responsibe for the hurricane (although the severity of such storms increase with global warming) or the flooding of New Orleans, but his administration's reactions to the situation are delporable. 4 f*****g days before the National Guard arrives? Awful. Hell, King George himself couldn't be bothered at first either, he was on vacation!
FEMA has become a toothless agency under the Bush adminstration. Seen as part of an 'evil New World Order' by Republicans under the Clinton admin, Bush buried FEMA under the homeland security umbrella and gave one of his old cronies the head position. A man, by the way, who has no experience whatsoever in disaster recovery management aside from doctoring Bush's national guard records. Most of FEMA's resources were funnelled towards anti-terrorism efforts and the agency itself if wholly incapable of handling any kind of disaster whatsoever. It's been dismantled, and we have nothing to take it's place.
James Lee Witt, FEMA director under Clinton, suggested in the '90s that ships with water pumps and hospital ships would be pre-deployed to aid New Orleans in the event of a hurricane. Unfortunately, just today a hospital ship left for New Orleans.... from Baltimore.
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Orbit
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 05:42 Post subject:
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But don't you find it funny that Bush created this "HOME LAND SECURITY" for just these things..
So when that dirty bomb goes off.. We can expect them to show up 4 days later?
Good money was spend on this "HLS" so yes Bush is to blame for the LATE action taken.
When this hurricane was upgraded to a level 5. This is when action should have been taken.. Not 4 days later...
New Orleans should be up there with terror targets due to the oil the ports there.. We been told the big bad boogie man errrrr Terrorist are out there and we should be ready for anything! 
Yeah what Akronn said.. Lol sorry didnt even read your till I posted... 
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shinja mayoke
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Preparing for Muslim attacks is EXACTLY THE SAME as preparing for hurricane attacks.
Shore up the levee so the greaseballs cant float in omg.
/salute Xammer
I have been saying for days that the responsibility of this is NOT FEDERAL.
Hell, if you take a f*****g tour (or had taken one) of the city, say, a historical tour, they tell you all about the massive problems they had building the place to begin with, and the 'royalty' responsible for its development was f*****g out of his mind. Shit tons of people died just turning the place into a half assed port, much less a city.
They tell you on the tour all about how a big storm would demolish the place since its under sea level...
NO is/was one of the most corrupt cities in the US and it really should not come as any suprise to anyone with 2 halves of a brain cell to rub together that funds for city projects get 'diverted' to other things.
Have any of the conspiracy theory wankers even BEEN there? As noted above, this city generated mad, mad tourist capital, yet...
The streets and city are/were in a huge state of disrepair at their f*****g PRIME.
The streets would have an inch of water in them ANY time there was a hard rain. It was a f****d up place to build a city, much less live there.
Oh, and to everyone who says 'OMG those poor people had no cars to escape the storm' you know what, f**k that, if certain destruction is on its way, a couple days of walking or laying off the god damn crack pipe long enough to rent a car would get your ass well out of the path.
You think they werent still smoking their crack pipes when the storm hit?
You think they made ANY effort to get the f**k out?
You must have like 50aa's in 'Advanced Naive'.
I really do feel for those folks who are enduring what can only be described as horrific day to day right now, but there is not a one of them (outside of perhaps the elderly) who could not have walked out of this.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 08:46 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | | Bush buried FEMA under the homeland security umbrella and gave one of his old cronies the head position. A man, by the way, who has no experience whatsoever in disaster recovery management aside from doctoring Bush's national guard records. |
Are you talking about Mike Brown? The guy who was the Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association and was then appointed director of FEMA by Bush after running the IAHA into the ground so badly with legal and financial problems that he was forced to resign and the IAHA was so badly ruined they ceased existence?
http://dailykos.com/story/2005/9/2/34622/68348
| Quote: | | I think I've told you that I'm into Arab horses. Well, for 3 years Michael Brown was hired and then fired by our IAHA, the International Arabian Horse Assoc. He was an unmitigated, total f*****g disaster. I was shocked as hell when captain clueless put him in charge of FEMA a couple of years ago. |
| Quote: | He or the WH lied on the WH presser announcing him to FEMA. IAHA was never connected to the Olympic Comm, only the half Arab registry then and the governing body to the state and local Arabian horse clubs. He ruined IAHA financially so badly that we had to change the name and combine it with the Purebred registry.
I am telling you this after watching the f*****g shipwreck in the Gulf. His incompetence is KILLING people. |
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Tura
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All you Bush bashers need to get off the thumb-sucking bandwagon and quit relying on the government for every waking thing.
Geez, we have some whiners on here.
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Ishmael
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| Orbit wrote: | But don't you find it funny that Bush created this "HOME LAND SECURITY" for just these things..
So when that dirty bomb goes off.. We can expect them to show up 4 days later?
Good money was spend on this "HLS" so yes Bush is to blame for the LATE action taken.
When this hurricane was upgraded to a level 5. This is when action should have been taken.. Not 4 days later...
New Orleans should be up there with terror targets due to the oil the ports there.. We been told the big bad boogie man errrrr Terrorist are out there and we should be ready for anything!
Yeah what Akronn said.. Lol sorry didnt even read your till I posted... |
Action was taken. Evacuation was ordered. People are stupid.
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kbarr
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 13:23 Post subject:
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democrats are scum
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Ishmael
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 13:31 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | democrats are scum |
Hai.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 13:37 Post subject:
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The one single quote I've seen over and over again through this thing, from officials and aid workers at all levels, was that the problems were the result of the fact that "nobody knew who was in charge". Regardless of anything else, that one single comment is a chilling indictment of the man at the top.
Ultimately it wasn't a problem of insufficient resources or unexpected circumstances or physical conditions preventing aid. It was because the organizational, management and communcations structures for dealing with a major disaster just were not there.
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kbarr
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 14:06 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | The one single quote I've seen over and over again through this thing, from officials and aid workers at all levels, was that the problems were the result of the fact that "nobody knew who was in charge". Regardless of anything else, that one single comment is a chilling indictment of the man at the top.
Ultimately it wasn't a problem of insufficient resources or unexpected circumstances or physical conditions preventing aid. It was because the organizational, management and communcations structures for dealing with a major disaster just were not there. |
f*****g scumbag liberals, democrats, looking for republicans to blame.
f*****g losers.
This is excellent practice.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 14:15 Post subject:
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f*****g scumbag liberals, democrats, looking for republicans to blame.
f*****g losers.
This is excellent practice. |
I don't really care; I'd say the same thing if it were a Democrat or a Libertarian in charge. You think I don't like Bush because he's a Republican, but I could care less about that. I don't like him because I think he's a fool.
There are certain rules you learn as you go through life. One of those rules is: when the middle level people in an organization can't do their jobs because they don't know who's in charge, you get rid of the guy at the top, because he's not doing his job. In fact, you've been in hierarchical organizations a lot, so I'll bet you've learned the same rule.
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kbarr
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 14:48 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Quote: |
f*****g scumbag liberals, democrats, looking for republicans to blame.
f*****g losers.
This is excellent practice. |
I don't really care; I'd say the same thing if it were a Democrat or a Libertarian in charge. You think I don't like Bush because he's a Republican, but I could care less about that. I don't like him because I think he's a fool.
There are certain rules you learn as you go through life. One of those rules is: when the middle level people in an organization can't do their jobs because they don't know whose in charge, you get rid of the guy at the top, because he's not doing his job. In fact, you've been in hierarchical organizations a lot, so I'll bet you've learned the same rule. |
I know this....
The feds are doing an excellent job for what the situation is.
I also know this...
All you democrats, you scumbags, are looking to blame Bush because 100,000 stupid people decided to take a chance.
Now its the feds fault they are underwater and have no shoes on while they sitting their roof waiting for people to fix a problem that didn't have to be.
Bottom line....
They were stupid and now the feds have to fix it.
No only do the feds have to fix their ass backwards city, they have to move them out after the fact, first.
But first they have to get whats theirs right? Yeah, lets do the jewelry store, the sneaker store and the electronics outlet, fill up the dry second floor with stuff then grab a helicopter out....
Yeah....thats the ticket...
/spit
Its not the presidents fault, its the locals fault.
You a*****e.
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Brael
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 14:49 Post subject:
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Sin, your posts in this thread make you come off as someone with such an irrational deep hatred of Bush that you want to blame everything on him. Sorry but when you, Democrats, Liberals, idiots still in NO, etc... are trying so hard to blame this on Bush and really stretching to do so it doesn't make a point for you, it just shows that the left is wildly lashing out at anything anti bush that they can for some reason. It honestly feels more like they want to recreate a Vietnam type scenario now for whatever reason than try to win an election through their beliefs/actions.
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Owyyn
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 14:55 Post subject:
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| Kayas wrote: | Dear Xammer,
My Hero.
Love,
Kayas
P.S. I hate how people jump to conclusions about rumors without knowing the facts. I for one was apalled at first to hear this rumor but did not buy into it till facts were straight. I looked on the interweb and found similar facts as you did to how long this potential problem has been known.
I'm sure before this last monday, the citizens of New Orleans perhaps joked that if a big storm came that they could be in big trouble just as the entirety of Southern California jokes that those in Arizona could have beach front property when the San Andreas finally blows it's load. The point is that this was not an unknown problem. It was not a mystery. There were dozens of points of failure and when one or two failed it was catastrophic. When Los Angeles falls into the ocean I guess that's going to be the President's fault too. Get it? Fault? It's the bard in me, I could not help it.
Putting the devestation of a natural disaster onto the shoulders of a single man is ludicrous. The knowledge has been known for 40+ years. Last year's near miss with Hurricane Ivan should have been a wake up call for some people. Lets not forget that Ivan was also a Category 5 as it approached Lousiana/Mississippi and luckily slowed to a category 2 as it neared land. Note the picture I have provided.
Everyone seemed to turn the other way and ignore it like most other inconviences that we choose not to deal with. The blame can not be on one man. An entire city, state and country ignored this potential disaster for 40+ years. Bush is only a scapegoat.
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Dear Banzai,
I have composed a haiku in your honor. I hope you enjoy it.
Calm the f**k down sir.
The world is not about you.
Get over yourself.
Love,
Kayas |
You watch too much TV. California is never going to sink into the ocean. The fault doesn't move like that.
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Hey, Kbarr, I understand you're p****d about NO being rebuilt on our dime, and frankly I am too... so what's your take on the new transportation bill? You know, the one with more pork in it than ever before, including the infamous billion dollar 'bridge to nowhere' in Alaska.
I guess it's ok to pass tripe like that, but when it comes to life-saving safety measures like water pumps and levees, well... who cares lol!?!
Your boy in the White House is letting true conservatives down BIG TIME. Biggest clusterfuck of a presidency in 80 years.
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Rycrias
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 18:49 Post subject:
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Why is it that no one is asking about the LA governor or the New Orleans mayor? Didnt they know that there was a hurricaine coming? The governor can assemble Natonal guard troops, order evacuations and even institute martial law.
All I hear about is how this is GW's fault.
Gimmie a f*****g break.
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 19:12 Post subject:
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| Rycrias wrote: | Why is it that no one is asking about the LA governor or the New Orleans mayor? Didnt they know that there was a hurricaine coming? The governor can assemble Natonal guard troops, order evacuations and even institute martial law.
All I hear about is how this is GW's fault.
Gimmie a f*****g break. |
Go back to when the evac was made. It's really sad in hindsight: Mandatory evacuation ordered for New Orleans
| Quote: | Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.
"There doesn't seem to be any relief in sight," Blanco said...
He [Nagin] told those who had to move to the Superdome to come with enough food for several days and with blankets. He said it will be a very uncomfortable place and encouraged everybody who could to get out.
Nagin said police and firefighters would spread out throughout the city sounding sirens and using bullhorns to tell residents to get out. He also said police would have the authority to comandeer any vehicle or building that could be used for evacuation or shelter...
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These images are popping up a lot now: Buses
As for the levee funding being cut that goes all the way back to 95. Funding was allocated to NO for improving evacuation routes around 2000. It never got improved and was just negligence at the local level.
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kbarr
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 19:13 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | Hey, Kbarr, I understand you're p****d about NO being rebuilt on our dime, and frankly I am too... so what's your take on the new transportation bill? You know, the one with more pork in it than ever before, including the infamous billion dollar 'bridge to nowhere' in Alaska.
I guess it's ok to pass tripe like that, but when it comes to life-saving safety measures like water pumps and levees, well... who cares lol!?!
Your boy in the White House is letting true conservatives down BIG TIME. Biggest clusterfuck of a presidency in 80 years. |
NO is a glorified ghetto that is currently under the gulf. If it was up to me I would let them all move to another ghetto, it would be cheaper.
Bush is doing an excellent job!
I can't wait till be starts bombing irans reactors!!
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kbarr
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| Rycrias wrote: | Why is it that no one is asking about the LA governor or the New Orleans mayor? Didnt they know that there was a hurricaine coming? The governor can assemble Natonal guard troops, order evacuations and even institute martial law.
All I hear about is how this is GW's fault.
Gimmie a f*****g break. |
Odds are they are black, hispanic or white democrats. They can do no wrong here, its racist remember?
If they were white male republicans they would be freaking on them as much as they are Bush.
Its comical.
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Tura
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 22:17 Post subject:
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| Rycrias wrote: | Why is it that no one is asking about the LA governor or the New Orleans mayor? Didnt they know that there was a hurricaine coming? The governor can assemble Natonal guard troops, order evacuations and even institute martial law.
All I hear about is how this is GW's fault.
Gimmie a f*****g break. |
The last time I saw the mayor on TV he was literally crying on national television blaming Bush for not doing anything. Then he turns around and commends Bush for putting a "Get it done" guy in charge of the rescue attempts. I understand his emotion about the situation but listen to how clueless this guy is about what efforts are already being made. When asked about the governor declaring martial law he has no clue whats going on. Then he tries to cover for the drug addicts who are wreaking havok on the hospitals for fixes. And finally the news anchor asks: "What can we do for you all out here?" The governor then replies: "Keep talkin about it."
This guy is quite the joke of a leader. He sounds just as un-educated as the people sitting at home yelling at their TV set.
Is he really Kanye West's long lost brother? We may never know...
Links (Worth the whole listen)
Read
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.nagin/?section=cnn_topstories
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/index.html
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Posted: 09/03/05 - 23:13 Post subject:
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I'm not a democrat.
I don't blame Bush for the Hurricane or the damage done to N.O. or any other city.
I'm not "hating" on Bush.
I'm stating a fact. The situation could have been controlled on Tuesday, but they waited until Friday.
Own your b******t.
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Posted: 09/04/05 - 02:10 Post subject:
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| Rycrias wrote: | Why is it that no one is asking about the LA governor or the New Orleans mayor? Didnt they know that there was a hurricaine coming? The governor can assemble Natonal guard troops, order evacuations and even institute martial law.
All I hear about is how this is GW's fault.
Gimmie a f*****g break. |
Exactly.
Please to be weening everyone off the Federal teet. States need to take some responsability for their own fuckups instead of just blaming anyone they can.
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Posted: 09/04/05 - 03:49 Post subject:
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Thousands more people could have gotten out when they said it was a Cat 5 comeing, but they didnt.
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Posted: 09/04/05 - 04:42 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Rycrias wrote: | Why is it that no one is asking about the LA governor or the New Orleans mayor? Didnt they know that there was a hurricaine coming? The governor can assemble Natonal guard troops, order evacuations and even institute martial law.
All I hear about is how this is GW's fault.
Gimmie a f*****g break. |
Odds are they are black, hispanic or white democrats. They can do no wrong here, its racist remember?
If they were white male republicans they would be freaking on them as much as they are Bush.
Its comical. |
If they were male, white republicans, Bush would have done something earlier 
The fact is that LA voted for Bush. I have a feeling in 2008, that's going to be a blue, blue state.
I detest George Bush, but not because he's a Republican. I hate him because he's a slack-jawed moron. He used his dad's connections to get him into office, and Wag the Dog tactics to keep him there. Of course, he doesn't have to do shit, now that he's comfortably ensconced in office. Time to party and fundraise, and let my dad's people deal with any problems that pop up. The problem with both parties these days is they're more concerned with winning the damn election than actually putting the best man for the job into office.
The truth is that the Homeland Security Dept. is supposed to be in charge not only of keeping the country safe from internation and domestic threats, but minimizing loss of life in the event of a major catastrophe. No, the federal government isn't technically responsible for rebuilding those homes. But they sure as hell ARE responsible for maintaining order in their own country. If people are being shot and raped, and the state/city can't keep it under control, the government needs to step in and take control. Hell, that's why we're in Iraq!
The flooding and destruction of NO was an inevitable occurrence. We were warned 3 days in advance that this disaster was going to happen. We should have reacted to this the same way we would if someone blew up the Superdome during an NFL game there. Are we now saying that it would take a week for the military to get to New Orleans if there was a terrorist attack?
I don't judge Bush for having this happen during his presidency. I judge him because of the woefully inadequate response. And the GOP cronies are calling this left-wing propaganda. To them, I say that I have no party affiliation, and I am moderate, not liberal or conservative, and I'm p****d. So what now?
Bush is running this country like Mackavelli ran CoS. "They're all out to get us, it's us against them guys, we have to stick together against those who want to hurt us if we want to win."
And you all bought it.
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kbarr
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Joined: 05 Oct 2004
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Location: New York, now go fuck off...
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| Eindar wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Rycrias wrote: | Why is it that no one is asking about the LA governor or the New Orleans mayor? Didnt they know that there was a hurricaine coming? The governor can assemble Natonal guard troops, order evacuations and even institute martial law.
All I hear about is how this is GW's fault.
Gimmie a f*****g break. |
Odds are they are black, hispanic or white democrats. They can do no wrong here, its racist remember?
If they were white male republicans they would be freaking on them as much as they are Bush.
Its comical. |
If they were male, white republicans, Bush would have done something earlier
The fact is that LA voted for Bush. I have a feeling in 2008, that's going to be a blue, blue state.
I detest George Bush, but not because he's a Republican. I hate him because he's a slack-jawed moron. He used his dad's connections to get him into office, and Wag the Dog tactics to keep him there. Of course, he doesn't have to do shit, now that he's comfortably ensconced in office. Time to party and fundraise, and let my dad's people deal with any problems that pop up. The problem with both parties these days is they're more concerned with winning the damn election than actually putting the best man for the job into office.
The truth is that the Homeland Security Dept. is supposed to be in charge not only of keeping the country safe from internation and domestic threats, but minimizing loss of life in the event of a major catastrophe. No, the federal government isn't technically responsible for rebuilding those homes. But they sure as hell ARE responsible for maintaining order in their own country. If people are being shot and raped, and the state/city can't keep it under control, the government needs to step in and take control. Hell, that's why we're in Iraq!
The flooding and destruction of NO was an inevitable occurrence. We were warned 3 days in advance that this disaster was going to happen. We should have reacted to this the same way we would if someone blew up the Superdome during an NFL game there. Are we now saying that it would take a week for the military to get to New Orleans if there was a terrorist attack?
I don't judge Bush for having this happen during his presidency. I judge him because of the woefully inadequate response. And the GOP cronies are calling this left-wing propaganda. To them, I say that I have no party affiliation, and I am moderate, not liberal or conservative, and I'm p****d. So what now?
Bush is running this country like Mackavelli ran CoS. "They're all out to get us, it's us against them guys, we have to stick together against those who want to hurt us if we want to win."
And you all bought it. |
Idiot.
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