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Frax
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 Posted: 09/02/05 - 12:05 Post subject: Re: is bush responsible for new orleans? this isn't a joke
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| Rennol wrote: | | Xion wrote: | | Brash wrote: | i was listening to NPR on my way home from work tonight and i heard this ....
They said that Bush took away 80% of the army core of engineers funding for building and maintaining the levies in new orleans . The money instead was "specifically" ear marked for the war in Iraq. So rather than rebuild and improve them like they had planed they had to just patch them together in a weak manor.
Take this for what its worth but If it is true, Bush is in a world of hurt very soon ..... |
Regardless, the city of New Orleans should never have been built. There's no fighting the power of mother nature. No pumping system in the world is going to hold back the pacific ocean and a category 5 hurricane when the city's f*****g below sea level. |
The Pacific is on the other side of the U.S. |
Xion is another realpoor mensa.
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sinrakin
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Friday, September 2nd, 2005
Dear Mr. Bush:
Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?
Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!
I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?
And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.
There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!
You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
www.MichaelMoore.com
P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch. She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way. Maybe you can catch up with them before they get to DC on September 21st.
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Frax
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 12:18 Post subject:
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There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you.
At least he is right about one thing.
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Soriak
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| Quote: | | On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that. |
Yes, that'd have been very productive to waste resources on a motorcade, lock down streets and secure an area, just so the President can wave a flag and get back into the limo.
People there need assistance in getting out, they need supplies - they don't need police tied up with protecting the President.
| Quote: | | P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch. She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way. Maybe you can catch up with them before they get to DC on September 21st. |
Just wondering - how much does it cost to fly the retard patrol around the country? How much do they spend on hotels? And wouldn't this money be much better spent donated to the red cross for this crisis?
I'm sure Michael Moore donated a couple millions as well, being such a "man of the people." Maybe he'll go on a hunger strike, he might actually fit on the TV screen without the cameraman having to zoom out 
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kbarr
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 12:44 Post subject:
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Your country |
What country do you call home?
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Ishmael
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 13:09 Post subject: Re: is bush responsible for new orleans? this isn't a joke
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| Samiam wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | Samiam wrote: | | Brash wrote: | i was listening to NPR on my way home from work tonight and i heard this ....
They said that Bush took away 80% of the army core of engineers funding for building and maintaining the levies in new orleans . The money instead was "specifically" ear marked for the war in Iraq. So rather than rebuild and improve them like they had planed they had to just patch them together in a weak manor.
Take this for what its worth but If it is true, Bush is in a world of hurt very soon ..... |
I don't know if this is true, but it wouldn't surprise me. Maintaining proper levies won't make the rich nearly as rich as securing an oil rich nation. It's a matter of priorities. |
Who did you vote for? |
What the hell does that have to do with the price of a grande latte at Starbucks? (Edited to Americanize) |
Did this have something to do with Tim Hortons? That place is everywhere. 
Brash you're slower than the average bear, arn't you?
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a. 1963 the Army Corps of Engineers first told folks that NO was screwed unless something serious was done and that a serious hurricane would effectively destroy the city.
b. No amount of planning can prepare you for every disaster, and some things there is nothing you can do about except try and lessen the damage. New Orleans was such a case, if the big storm hit, then the city was toast.
c. A lot of fingers are getting pointed here that are just folks trying to push an agenda and tryin to do the 20-20 hindsight game. Frankly, it's disgusting and VERY dishonest.
First, yes, the report came out in 1963, but you are deluding yourself if you think that there has ever existed the political will in the past 40 years to FORCE the closure/relocation of New Orleans. It is very dishonest to claim that the government (state or federal) should have forced these people to move. The ONLY way they could have would be under Immenent Domain and the shitstorm of declaring that over an entire city would never have happened. So stop saying it was such and such's fault that these folks were not forced to relocate. You are dishonest and irrational.
Second, blaming the war in Iraq. Again, you are being dishonest. Such civil projects are the domain of the State, not the Federal Government. Further, you are being dishonest by thinking that the army could just move in. That's insane. Without proper logistical support anyone rushed in to help would just be another victim. This is simple and only people with a political agenda are going to say otherwise, and they will be lying to you. You cannot just dump 30,000 plus people into a situation and hope for it to get better.
Further on this point, as soon as it became apparent a helicopter carrier with support vessels and a medical ship were dispatched from the nearest sources along the atlantic seaboard where there bases are! Even in times of peace, carrier battle groups do not sit in port, they are always out. So had this happened in say 2000, our naval response would have been identical. Further, it takes TIME to sail the ships down. So saying the navy should have been there sooner is again dishonest and ignoring reality. There are no major naval bases in the region from which such an operation could have been sorteed.
As far as "more helicopters" well again, these are useless without adequate fuel which has to be prepositioned, otherwise they are just big lawn ornaments. Further, those who make this claim again ignore reality. A Chinook, the largest cargo helicopter can carry 33-44 troops, or about 50-60 civilians w/o possessions. To evacuate 100,000 people using such vehicles would require ~2000 flights, and assuming an hour turn around time on each 83 flight day's total. A blackhawk on the other hand can carry 11 troops, or about 15 or so civilians. The problems of numbers become obvious. If you had every single blackhawk, chinook, SeaStallion, and Seahawk in the military arsenal there you are looking at DAYS of flight time to ferry even 50,000 people. Then you still have to remember these cannot operate 24/7, are subject to weather, have to have sufficient crews, AND are entirely dependant on fuel all of which have to be prepositioned. So saying that events in Iraq are impacting this is again very very dishonest. It also is ignoring the capabilities of the National Guard, 65% of whom remain in the US who are being deployed. It does however take time.
So if you want to blame something, blame logistics, imagination, and political will. Everyone "knew" that it "could" happen, but no one ever had the will to do anything serious about it because it was behond the realm of consideration. Prior to 8/30/05 it was impossible to think that a city would have to be abandoned in the US. Such arguments were never taken seriously because there was no precident. It was simply unimaginable.
This isn't excuse making, this is simple fact. If you are at all honest you will realize that until a few days ago that this was an impossiblity. Even if some politicians had taken it seriously they would have been over ruled by the people they served. Imagine the national outcry over the forced abandonment of a thriving city and you'll see why we ended up in this mess.
Now, its a different story and we once again find ourselves in a different world. So the old ways of thinking are out the door and people will start considering worst case senarios again. But in the mean time a whole lot of very dishonest people are going to be looking to blame people with whom they have a political bone to pick.
So before you go blaming President Bush, why aren't you blaming President's Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush? Why aren't you blaming every FEMA director? Why aren't you blaiming every head of the Army Corps of Engineers? Every mayor of New Orleans? Every State representative in Louisiana? Every Lousiana Governor?
So c'mon, be honest about who you are finger pointing at at least and stop pushing the agenda you f****n candy asses.
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 14:17 Post subject:
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/hug xammer
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kbarr
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What he said.
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Rennol
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 14:20 Post subject:
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I love when Xammer posts!
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Spiritz
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Bush is, in the end, responsible for what is done about the area. And well actions speak louder than words.
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Spiritz
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 14:40 Post subject:
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| xammer99 wrote: | | So c'mon, be honest about who you are finger pointing at at least and stop pushing the agenda you f****n candy asses. |
Because in the end, who's the HNIC? Who's the "boss of you" as Kbarr says? Bushman is. So in the end, he's responsible. He wanted the f*****g job. You get both sides (good and bad). Fact is they could have had that place locked down on Tuesday, and we all know that.
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xammer99
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 14:59 Post subject:
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| Spiritz wrote: | | xammer99 wrote: | | So c'mon, be honest about who you are finger pointing at at least and stop pushing the agenda you f****n candy asses. |
Because in the end, who's the HNIC? Who's the "boss of you" as Kbarr says? Bushman is. So in the end, he's responsible. He wanted the f*****g job. You get both sides (good and bad). Fact is they could have had that place locked down on Tuesday, and we all know that. |
Yet again more dishonesty just to push a political agenda.
You ignore the private & charity efforts. You ignore the State, Parish, and Local efforts and responsibility in order to push your agenda of slandering the President.
So if you want to "blame" someone, blame everyone who was involved for the past 42 years. All failed to act up to "your standards" which are irrational to begin with because you expect people to first just walk out of a major city because something MIGHT happen.
By this rationale you need to move into a deep underground bunker with years of food and water because a meteor MIGHT hit. There is certainly a distinct possibility of it, but to complete disrupt and change your life over the possibility is an irrational behavior. Yet you expect the people of New Orleans to have done so.
Worse, you expect the Federal government to hand hold everyone in trouble. I find this even more disturbing because that places complete and total agency in a relatively small group of individuals and totally removes it from the population at large.
So, truth be told, by your logic, you cannot simply blame the President, if you want to be honest which is a dubious proposal for you. You must blame every leader involved since 1963 as well as every single resident of New Orleans past and present, living and dead because each chose to not act upon the danger and work to see that it was corrected. The only possible exceptions are those who moved specifically because of the potential of disaster. And I will bet any sum of money that you care that the number of such individuals (pre 8/30) can be counted on 2 hands at most if they were to answer in complete honesty.
So once again, you are being dishonest in order to specifically push a political agenda because of your irrational dislike of a single man. The question becomes agin, why are you not blaming Presidents Kennedy-Johnson for not forcing the evacuation of New Orleans or spending the billions to build a 100' wall around New Orleans to protect it from the possibility of ANY wave from Lake Ponchatrain?
Or, better put. You are irrational and have no credibility. Might I recommend that you now put your aluminum foil cap back on to block the CIA brain waves from the super secret satellites that are forcing you to conspicuously consume?
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:14 Post subject: Re: is bush responsible for new orleans? this isn't a joke
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| Brash wrote: | i was listening to NPR on my way home from work tonight and i heard this ....
They said that Bush took away 80% of the army core of engineers funding for building and maintaining the levies in new orleans . The money instead was "specifically" ear marked for the war in Iraq. So rather than rebuild and improve them like they had planed they had to just patch them together in a weak manor.
Take this for what its worth but If it is true, Bush is in a world of hurt very soon ..... |
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Spiritz
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:17 Post subject:
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| xammer99 wrote: | | Spiritz wrote: | | xammer99 wrote: | | So c'mon, be honest about who you are finger pointing at at least and stop pushing the agenda you f****n candy asses. |
Because in the end, who's the HNIC? Who's the "boss of you" as Kbarr says? Bushman is. So in the end, he's responsible. He wanted the f*****g job. You get both sides (good and bad). Fact is they could have had that place locked down on Tuesday, and we all know that. |
Yet again more dishonesty just to push a political agenda.
You ignore the private & charity efforts. You ignore the State, Parish, and Local efforts and responsibility in order to push your agenda of slandering the President.
So if you want to "blame" someone, blame everyone who was involved for the past 42 years. All failed to act up to "your standards" which are irrational to begin with because you expect people to first just walk out of a major city because something MIGHT happen.
By this rationale you need to move into a deep underground bunker with years of food and water because a meteor MIGHT hit. There is certainly a distinct possibility of it, but to complete disrupt and change your life over the possibility is an irrational behavior. Yet you expect the people of New Orleans to have done so.
Worse, you expect the Federal government to hand hold everyone in trouble. I find this even more disturbing because that places complete and total agency in a relatively small group of individuals and totally removes it from the population at large.
So, truth be told, by your logic, you cannot simply blame the President, if you want to be honest which is a dubious proposal for you. You must blame every leader involved since 1963 as well as every single resident of New Orleans past and present, living and dead because each chose to not act upon the danger and work to see that it was corrected. The only possible exceptions are those who moved specifically because of the potential of disaster. And I will bet any sum of money that you care that the number of such individuals (pre 8/30) can be counted on 2 hands at most if they were to answer in complete honesty.
So once again, you are being dishonest in order to specifically push a political agenda because of your irrational dislike of a single man. The question becomes agin, why are you not blaming Presidents Kennedy-Johnson for not forcing the evacuation of New Orleans or spending the billions to build a 100' wall around New Orleans to protect it from the possibility of ANY wave from Lake Ponchatrain?
Or, better put. You are irrational and have no credibility. Might I recommend that you now put your aluminum foil cap back on to block the CIA brain waves from the super secret satellites that are forcing you to conspicuously consume? |
Lol, I could give a flying f**k about anyones political agenda. I'm not talking about the fact that the area was f****d to begin with because of all the crap that led up to why it got flooded.
I'm talking about this current situation didn't have to be this bad. It's a simple point, try not ignoring it. There are many people responsible but in the end the President shoulders the burden.
The situation is out of control and it didn't have to be. Refute that.
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kbarr
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:28 Post subject:
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| Spiritz wrote: | | xammer99 wrote: | | So c'mon, be honest about who you are finger pointing at at least and stop pushing the agenda you f****n candy asses. |
Because in the end, who's the HNIC? Who's the "boss of you" as Kbarr says? Bushman is. So in the end, he's responsible. He wanted the f*****g job. You get both sides (good and bad). Fact is they could have had that place locked down on Tuesday, and we all know that. |
Idiot.
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:41 Post subject: Re: is bush responsible for new orleans? this isn't a joke
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| Brash wrote: | i was listening to NPR on my way home from work tonight and i heard this ....
They said that Bush took away 80% of the army core of engineers funding for building and maintaining the levies in new orleans . The money instead was "specifically" ear marked for the war in Iraq. So rather than rebuild and improve them like they had planed they had to just patch them together in a weak manor.
Take this for what its worth but If it is true, Bush is in a world of hurt very soon ..... |
New orleans is one of the biggest tourist destinations in the united states, most likely in the world. so Explain to me why locally they couldnt produce the revenue to fix this stuff. Why is it my responsibility to pay for thier safety, the govt sure as hell isnt giving me millions of dollars to protect from a disaster They know is coming, so exactly why shoul I pay for New orleans lack of Foresight and preparation.
Bush was right to take the money away from the project, they can raise thier own money the same way my city does for its various stupid projects. Tax your City and state citizins to provide for this shit, the federal government is not every states f*****g welfare machine.
I lay the blame of all this on the LA state govt and local governments, how dare they blame the Fed for thier problems. Just another big case of no one taking responsibility for thier f**k ups.
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:51 Post subject:
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Xammer for president.
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Frax
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:51 Post subject:
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BTW, the general incharge of the Corps of Engineers said the project that everyone is b******g about.. WAS ALREADY COMPLETED IN THE AREAS THAT WERE BREACHED. This would have happened regardless. Maybe New Orleans/Louisiana should have spent more of their tax money on this instead of other things if it was so imporant?
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No, because Bush has never been responsible for anything a single day of his life. Get with the times.
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:53 Post subject:
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Redundancy in the levee system would have been a good start.
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:56 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | | No, because Bush has never been responsible for anything a single day of his life. Get with the times. |
But you have, right?
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:59 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | | No, because Bush has never been responsible for anything a single day of his life. Get with the times. |
Big headed liberal dish washer.
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 15:59 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Banzai wrote: | | No, because Bush has never been responsible for anything a single day of his life. Get with the times. |
But you have, right? |
How the f**k did this become about me smart ass?
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 16:03 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Banzai wrote: | | No, because Bush has never been responsible for anything a single day of his life. Get with the times. |
Big headed liberal dish washer. |
Fat ass, no chin, single/sad, violence crazed, Bush ball licking, socially retarded, welfare by pension waiting, daddy beaten, narrow minded, one word spouting, smug ass.
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| Rennol wrote: | | NickPSH wrote: | | Samiam wrote: | | NickPSH wrote: | | Brash wrote: | | NickPSH wrote: | | Brash wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | They said that money was appropriated in 1996 and has been just one of many piggy banks. Congress has probably been moving the money, not clinton or bush. |
i'd like to know more |
Then why don't you take all this passion and bias hatred you have and focus it on researching a topic. Listening to something on the radio and making a few speculations is nonsense. |
i just heard it a few min ago on my way home .normally NPR radio is a pretty reliable source ..... certainly more reliable than most new sources . |
Why not try listening to a radio source that doesn't admit a liberal bias? I wouldn't doubt if they spun the story. You prove that 'Bush' himself pushed for removal of New Orleans Levee workers with prior knowledge of a 'natural disaster' threatening the area and I'll change my dispassionate logical opinion of the situation. |
Your country is hopelessly polarized. Truth and fact mean nothing. Belief is based on political agenda, and it's morphed into their version of "truth" by both factions. People latch on and get their version of truth to the point where you're arguing not fact, but religious belief - and no one wins. You bozo's (english much?) buy one side or the other's rhetoric hook line and sinker at the expense of common sense. |
How are you deducting this when I haven't even given my opinion? There are always 'trends' in society, trying to peg that to me is very ignorant consdering how individualistic I am. You're going off of pure speculation of what you think of other Americans so you can make broad generilizations about what I've said. |
You gave an opinion when you said that NPR news shows are "liberally biased". There are political programs on NPR, both liberal and conservative; the news isn't biased one way or another, it's a presentation of facts. |
They admitted a liberal bias.
http://www.google.com/search?q=NPR+admits+liberal+bias&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
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Frax
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 8489
Location: Fuck yoiu fucking fuckers
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 16:12 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | Banzai wrote: | | No, because Bush has never been responsible for anything a single day of his life. Get with the times. |
But you have, right? |
How the f**k did this become about me smart ass? |
Well if you are so f*****g smart, why didn't you fix the levee system? If it was so f*****g obvious that everything from New Orleans to Pascagoula was going to be erased on Monday, August 29th, 2005, why didn't we evacuate using our Area 51 technology?
I'm really tired of dumbfucks like you acting like you have all the answers and taking potshots at things you can't even comprehend.
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kbarr
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 05 Oct 2004
Posts: 11239
Location: New York, now go fuck off...
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 16:13 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | Banzai wrote: | | No, because Bush has never been responsible for anything a single day of his life. Get with the times. |
But you have, right? |
How the f**k did this become about me smart ass? |
HEADLY!
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kbarr
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 05 Oct 2004
Posts: 11239
Location: New York, now go fuck off...
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 16:15 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Banzai wrote: | | No, because Bush has never been responsible for anything a single day of his life. Get with the times. |
Big headed liberal dish washer. |
one word spouting, smug. |
HEADLY!
This part was correct.
The rest was gibberish.
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Samiam
Luke Warm
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Posts: 319
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Posted: 09/02/05 - 16:15 Post subject:
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| NickPSH wrote: | | Rennol wrote: | | NickPSH wrote: | | Samiam wrote: | | NickPSH wrote: | | Brash wrote: | | NickPSH wrote: | | Brash wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | They said that money was appropriated in 1996 and has been just one of many piggy banks. Congress has probably been moving the money, not clinton or bush. |
i'd like to know more |
Then why don't you take all this passion and bias hatred you have and focus it on researching a topic. Listening to something on the radio and making a few speculations is nonsense. |
i just heard it a few min ago on my way home .normally NPR radio is a pretty reliable source ..... certainly more reliable than most new sources . |
Why not try listening to a radio source that doesn't admit a liberal bias? I wouldn't doubt if they spun the story. You prove that 'Bush' himself pushed for removal of New Orleans Levee workers with prior knowledge of a 'natural disaster' threatening the area and I'll change my dispassionate logical opinion of the situation. |
Your country is hopelessly polarized. Truth and fact mean nothing. Belief is based on political agenda, and it's morphed into their version of "truth" by both factions. People latch on and get their version of truth to the point where you're arguing not fact, but religious belief - and no one wins. You bozo's (english much?) buy one side or the other's rhetoric hook line and sinker at the expense of common sense. |
How are you deducting this when I haven't even given my opinion? There are always 'trends' in society, trying to peg that to me is very ignorant consdering how individualistic I am. You're going off of pure speculation of what you think of other Americans so you can make broad generilizations about what I've said. |
You gave an opinion when you said that NPR news shows are "liberally biased". There are political programs on NPR, both liberal and conservative; the news isn't biased one way or another, it's a presentation of facts. |
They admitted a liberal bias.
http://www.google.com/search?q=NPR+admits+liberal+bias&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official |
I took his protest at face value and apologized for lumping him in with what you guys contend is liberal bias in the reporting. No harm done. I however stand by my statement that there is little truth to be had out there - just a lot of spin masquerading as truth.
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