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Nahualli
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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 Posted: 11/19/03 - 02:27 Post subject: haha.. my war with spam continues
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So... as predicted I only won a temporary battle with spam mail. I am back up to about 200 messages a day. So I ramped up a bit and turned on my auto reply agent but this time attached a hefty attachment which consists of a JPG saying "HAR HAR" in big purple letters..
Today I got several emails like
As you requested, you have been unsubscribed from 'huladirect'.
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From: "psyborg.com/marco" <marco@psyborg.com>
To: huladirect-request
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:17:44 -0800
Message-ID: <012301c3ae54$17954410$6500a8c0@nahualli>
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# Mail sent to leave-huladirect-1450325f was converted to these commands:
unsubscribe
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From: "psyborg.com/marco" <marco@psyborg.com>
To: <leave-huladirect-1450325F@mail8.hosting-pros.net>
Subject: Auto reply PLEASE IGNORE
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:17:44 -0800
Message-ID: <012301c3ae54$17954410$6500a8c0@nahualli>
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This is to kill those filthy spam mail bots.. If you are a real person who sent me real email please DISREGARD this message I will get it
-M-
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this is only 1 of 4 such messages I received today. Last night I got 1 and Im hoping more will start rolling in. Spam mailers hate it when you spam them back  They will listen to you when they start getting hundreds of emailed attachments a day saying "HAR HAR" in their email
-Nah-
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ATM Banana
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Joined: 02 Jan 2003
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 02:31 Post subject:
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at times like these i wonder, does anyone care?
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Sunkorzien
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Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Posts: 1443
Location: New Orleans
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 02:33 Post subject:
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I liked it when you had the loopback set up or whatever where it would just auto-return everything and Dunn got really p****d off.
That was neat.
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ATM Banana
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Joined: 02 Jan 2003
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 02:36 Post subject:
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i'd say it was "neeto"
some football player threatened my life and demanded i never say "neeto" again.
i complied under the conditions that he would be forced to stop looking at the girls ass sitting next to him.
he shut up and found me after school only to further the complicated mess i call my life.
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Braid
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Joined: 01 Jan 2003
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 02:36 Post subject:
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I'm not sure what all that stuff means, but when I was getting too much spam at my hotmail account I just made a new one, blocked all messages from my old one for about 2 weeks then opened it back up and I get 3 or less spam messages a week.
On a somewhat related note, when telemarketers/pre-approved credit card people call, I tell them "Please Hold" and put the phone down by the subwoofer/center channel while I play smash bros (and now mario kart, whoo!).
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 02:39 Post subject:
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i have an outside line, and an inside line, i have asked them sometimes to call the outside line, so i can do a threeway when another one calls.
after about 20 or so words exchanged between the two, they get the idea, and stop calling.
god i praise my father for having a dual phone service within the same home.
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Nahualli
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 08:17 Post subject:
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| ATM Banana wrote: | | at times like these i wonder, does anyone care? |
Im trying to help people who have issues with spam email.. I know I do, so just based on the size of the human race there is a PRETTY GOOD chance someone else is having the same problem also.
-Nah-
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Celestra
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 08:41 Post subject:
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I care.
I enjoy seeing Nah spam the crap out of those m***********s.
Keep up the good work.
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kemble
RealPoor Sensei
Joined: 14 Oct 2002
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Location: MI
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 12:56 Post subject:
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To people thinking this idea might actually work: Please learn how the internet works before trying something as stupid as this f*****g idea.
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Spitulski
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 13:06 Post subject:
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Seconded - replying and auto-replying to spam sources registers your address as a valid email address. Why the hell else would a spam source offer an "unsubscribe" option when they obviously don't care whether or not you wanted the mail in the first place?
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Paco
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Joined: 13 Oct 2002
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Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 13:25 Post subject:
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| Spitulski wrote: | | Seconded - replying and auto-replying to spam sources registers your address as a valid email address. Why the hell else would a spam source offer an "unsubscribe" option when they obviously don't care whether or not you wanted the mail in the first place? |
awww man, you ruined it
heheh
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Occulis
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Location: Moral Relativity Central
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 13:34 Post subject:
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Nah,
Please tell me you're joking.
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Nahualli
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 13:51 Post subject:
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Not at all. Majority of spam mailers out there are intended to generate phony names so that you can't reply to them and they aren't "real" addresses like blond_busty_babe02@jizzonme.com.
By auto replying you just loop mail back at em and in turn they loop it back at you saying "this address doesnt exist". I know it works because I've done it before. Firs time I did it it was only accidental because I actually was on vacation. When I got back I found about 2k undeliverables but the new messages had completely stopped coming in
I'll be the first to eat shit if it doesnt work the way I think it does, but I cant deny it *does* work
-Nah-
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compusmack
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Joined: 15 Oct 2002
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 13:52 Post subject:
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Terrible this idea.
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Occulis
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 13:53 Post subject:
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Dude, you know the reason you have so much trouble with spam? It's because you're replying. Every email you send out is basically an RSVP for them to sell your email to someone else.
I deal with people every day who have 6000+ messages in their inbox because they "keep clicking on unsubscribe" and "keep replying, writing them really nasty letters!"
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Nahualli
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 13:56 Post subject:
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| Spitulski wrote: | | Seconded - replying and auto-replying to spam sources registers your address as a valid email address. |
Totally correct. This is just something you have to live with tho if you decide to bounce all email back. You will inevitably be buying yourself only so much time before you confirm your address and it gets sold to the next company, but short of deleting my mailbox there is nothing else I can do
-Nah-
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Occulis
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WheresNWS
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 14:03 Post subject:
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One good way to prevent ever getting spam is not signing up for stuff at gay porn sites.
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Spitulski
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Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 14:04 Post subject:
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We're peaking over 5000 spam messages bounced a minute - and this is only applicable to our email accounts with filtering enabled, and then only the messages that filtering catches. Spam is f*****g disgusting.
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Nahualli
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 14:12 Post subject:
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| Dunn wrote: | Dude, you know the reason you have so much trouble with spam? It's because you're replying. Every email you send out is basically an RSVP for them to sell your email to someone else.
I deal with people every day who have 6000+ messages in their inbox because they "keep clicking on unsubscribe" and "keep replying, writing them really nasty letters!" |
No Dunn.. lemme repeat the chronology of the events.
1 -- my spam problem gets to the point I am dl'ing 500+ messages a day by doing absolutely nothing about it.
2 -- I decide enough is enough it's time to delete my account and make a new mailbox
3 -- I set up a auto reply with a message telling all my friends my account will be expiring in 30 days and a forwarding address.
4 -- I go out of town for 2 weeks
5 -- I come back and find my incoming email is maybe 20 messages a day including personal email (which I dont get a lot of)
6 - several months later (now) my problem has grown in size but even now is not nearly as bas as it was before. It's manageable it's just annoying.
Like I said it may not work as I think it does but it does work. If you are looping people's mail they will block your address. It's what we do in Morgan and it's what eventually led us to turn off all external OOO assistants. We are no longer allowed to send OOO replied to external addresses because it was too much trouble blocking email addresses thay were looping mail to us.
It's not a perfect fix. But please don't come here and tell me if doesn't work. On paper and in practice are 2 different things.
-Nah-
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Paco
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 14:37 Post subject:
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get a better isp nah
seriously
or learn what filters are
you aren't doing yourself any favors replying
your logic is f****d
*I* don't get shit on my email addy
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Spitulski
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 14:44 Post subject:
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The "Better ISP" argument f*****g p****s me off. If you think that your ISP isn't doing everything they can think of to reduce having to upgrade thousands of dollars worth of mail equipment to keep up with retarded OE users and people who give away their email address at the drop of a hat, you're sadly mistaken. That or you really do have a really s****y ISP.
There's an extremely fine line between spam filtering, and filtering out valid email.
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Paco
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 15:02 Post subject:
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hush up you
go shave your lip or something 
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Nahualli
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 15:04 Post subject:
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Nope, I don't blame my ISP one bit. I blame my own carelessness. Years of installing software and buying shit online without ever checking to see what I was signing up for.. never unchecking that "subscribe to mailing list" button that pops up. I know better now but it's sorta too late
-Nah-
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Spitulski
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 15:08 Post subject:
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RP hiccuped for me, too.
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Paco
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Posted: 11/19/03 - 15:10 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | Nope, I don't blame my ISP one bit. I blame my own carelessness. Years of installing software and buying shit online without ever checking to see what I was signing up for.. never unchecking that "subscribe to mailing list" button that pops up. I know better now but it's sorta too late
-Nah- |
hahhahah, nice 1 sir
yup, user error wins again
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I hate spam.
