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Paco
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| WheresNWS wrote: | This man is a child f****r.
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someone can photoshop a spliff in there reaaal easily
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Syke
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 17:37 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | | WheresNWS wrote: | This man is a child f****r.
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someone can photoshop a spliff in there reaaal easily |
Holy shit paco is right....That's such a..."Damn that's some nasty schwag, but it'l put hair on my chest." type of toke...
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Akronn
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 17:41 Post subject:
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He needs to stop combing over, his hair looks like shit.
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Brash
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 18:18 Post subject:
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| hitachi wrote: | | Brash wrote: | I guess this is my point . I am a 27 year old man . What would you do if you found out i was eating out your 16 year olds p***y and after that i was f*****g her in the ass? Then how would you feel if i filmed it and spread it all over the net so every sick f**k out there can beat off to it ? These laws are here to protect our children from people who would like to take advantage of them to make a quick buck and/or fulfill their perverted needs. I say enforce these laws at all costs....
BTW , yes in some states the age of consent to have **** is 16 . Giveing consent to have **** your boyfriend and giveing consent to w***e yourself out to some stranger on a porn video a ton of people will see are two entirely different things.
Not to mention it is way to hard to differentiate between a teen ( or younfer for that matter ) who really wants to do this on thier free will and a teen who was coerced/forced into it . It is way to easy to manipulate teens into things they dont want to do or dont understand the true repercussions of . Even if they do want to do it on thier free will you have to wonder what has happened to them to make them want to do it ...... and are you not exploiting that by letting them ? |
**** between a 16 year old and a 27 year old is a lot different then **** between a 16 year old and a 20 year old. (which is how old mugaaz is i believe)
and i was talking about ****, not video taping it and selling it or whatever else, just plain ****. |
so where do we ignore the law or what is ok? what age do you all think kids should be allowed to start thier porn career . at what age are you not exploiting or manipulating them by puting them in porn . when are they" adult " enough to be responsable for thier own actions even if they are being exploited and manipulated ? when should we not charge the people involved is this , the people who want to see it and people doing it ?
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hitachi
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 18:23 Post subject:
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16-18 sounds good to me!
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Gutrippar
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 18:34 Post subject:
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18 really. having ****, ok. having **** and be videotaped for work and having to live with that the rest of your life is not a decicion you should make at 16 years of age.
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hitachi
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 18:40 Post subject:
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| Gutrippar wrote: | | 18 really. having ****, ok. having **** and be videotaped for work and having to live with that the rest of your life is not a decicion you should make at 16 years of age. |
yea i agree, i was pretty much joking. i dont think a 16 year old should be doing porn.
but a 16 year old should be allowed to have **** all they want.
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 18:44 Post subject:
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| hitachi wrote: | | Gutrippar wrote: | | 18 really. having ****, ok. having **** and be videotaped for work and having to live with that the rest of your life is not a decicion you should make at 16 years of age. |
yea i agree, i was pretty much joking. i dont think a 16 year old should be doing porn.
but a 16 year old should be allowed to have **** all they want. |
Then as a parent, who counts this 16 yr old as a dependant. I reserve the right to toss them out on the street and let them fend for themselves, if thats the route they take.
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Spitulski
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 18:47 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | hitachi wrote: | | Gutrippar wrote: | | 18 really. having ****, ok. having **** and be videotaped for work and having to live with that the rest of your life is not a decicion you should make at 16 years of age. |
yea i agree, i was pretty much joking. i dont think a 16 year old should be doing porn.
but a 16 year old should be allowed to have **** all they want. |
Then as a parent, who counts this 16 yr old as a dependant. I reserve the right to toss them out on the street and let them fend for themselves, if thats the route they take.
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Not while they're in a school system you can't. And last time I checked, if your 16 year old isn't in school then you're definately doing something wrong.
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 18:54 Post subject:
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| Spitulski wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | hitachi wrote: | | Gutrippar wrote: | | 18 really. having ****, ok. having **** and be videotaped for work and having to live with that the rest of your life is not a decicion you should make at 16 years of age. |
yea i agree, i was pretty much joking. i dont think a 16 year old should be doing porn.
but a 16 year old should be allowed to have **** all they want. |
Then as a parent, who counts this 16 yr old as a dependant. I reserve the right to toss them out on the street and let them fend for themselves, if thats the route they take.
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Not while they're in a school system you can't. And last time I checked, if your 16 year old isn't in school then you're definately doing something wrong. |
Yeah...I know....you missed my point.
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Spitulski
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 19:02 Post subject:
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I don't think I did. They can consent to **** all they like and your "reserved" right to kick them out on the street because of it doesn't exist.
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NickPSH
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 19:05 Post subject:
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| Spitulski wrote: | | I don't think I did. They can consent to **** all they like and your "reserved" right to kick them out on the street because of it doesn't exist. |
He can however, feed them rations and take away every single bit of entertainment money can buy!
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hitachi
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: Maryland
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 19:07 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | hitachi wrote: | | Gutrippar wrote: | | 18 really. having ****, ok. having **** and be videotaped for work and having to live with that the rest of your life is not a decicion you should make at 16 years of age. |
yea i agree, i was pretty much joking. i dont think a 16 year old should be doing porn.
but a 16 year old should be allowed to have **** all they want. |
Then as a parent, who counts this 16 yr old as a dependant. I reserve the right to toss them out on the street and let them fend for themselves, if thats the route they take.
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dont get me wrong, i dont think its always the smartest thing to do. god knows their are way too f*****g many pregnant teens. but if they are going to take the risk, its their life thats going to be affected by it.
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Spitulski
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 19:07 Post subject:
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| Tizitchy Tinkergnome wrote: | | Spitulski wrote: | | I don't think I did. They can consent to **** all they like and your "reserved" right to kick them out on the street because of it doesn't exist. |
He can however, feed them rations and take away every single bit of entertainment money can buy! |
Sure can.
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 19:35 Post subject:
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| Spitulski wrote: | | I don't think I did. They can consent to **** all they like and your "reserved" right to kick them out on the street because of it doesn't exist. |
No I can't kick them out. I understand this fact. My comment was more of a black joke.
But, there is a lot I can do. Lets say I have a daughter who is going out all the time getting laid. I can stop her. I will lay down house rules and every time she breaks them, instead of beating them like they did in the old days, and it worked so well, the old days are surely missed. I will take a ride to the local pct and make a police report. yep, a police report, for runaway, no matter the time of day or duration. if she isn't home when I say, shes a run away. After a series of these reports , 10 or 20, I will head on down to family court. There the judge will issue me a PINS warrant. A PINS warrant is short for "people in need of supervision". Once I have my trusty PINS warrant in hand all I have to do is call 911, get a cop to follow me to her friends, house or where ever she is and we can arrest her:)
Yup, arrest her:) Then we take her to a juvenile facility and put her inside:)
See how she likes it there.....
Some cases are harder than other, some you can't fix. But its better to identify them early on, that way you don't waste alot of time or money on them.
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dont get me wrong, i dont think its always the smartest thing to do. god knows their are way too f*****g many pregnant teens. but if they are going to take the risk, its their life thats going to be affected by it. |
If she has a kid at 16 it ends up being my kid. I'll go the PINS warrant route and when she is 18 I can kick her out the front door.
If she insists on being a pig.
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Minion
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 20:01 Post subject:
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In other news I like to rename gay porn as shit like "13 year old lolita anal SCREAMER" and let people download it.
Apparently I'm not the only one with this genius idea though because I downloaded something that was supposed to be britney spears giving a b*****b and got some dude getting decapitated with an apparently very high quality army knife.
Anyway I guess the moral of the story is to be careful before you play your videos cause odds are they're not what the title says.
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themy
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 20:39 Post subject:
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well the pictures could be anything from 1 to 17 and be deemed "child porn" which is really stupid since obviously a f****n 16 year old knows what the hell she is doing getting video taped or having **** with some random guy etc. If you just DL a bunch of crap off of kazaa and one of em happens to be like this that is messed up if he didn't even intend for this to happen.
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hitachi
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 20:43 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | | well the pictures could be anything from 1 to 17 and be deemed "child porn" which is really stupid since obviously a f****n 16 year old knows what the hell she is doing getting video taped or having **** with some random guy etc. If you just DL a bunch of crap off of kazaa and one of em happens to be like this that is messed up if he didn't even intend for this to happen. |
it wasnt one, it was 30. and it was on more then one computer. sound like a bit more than a coincidence at that point.
also, like people have said, its a lot more likely it was stuff that was obviously a kid, or it wouldnt hold up in court.[/list]
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themy
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 20:53 Post subject:
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anyways, maybe people like brash should learn how to control their kids if they don't want them f*****g random dudes who will video tape them. Good parenting would eliminate all that for sure. you just know some crack ho mom and dad aren't watching the kids that participate in that sort of crap. I know i wouldn't want my hypothetical 16 year old sister or daughter going and doing this, but i wouldn't want them to have **** at that age either. Well not have **** if it is some random dude who would actually video tape it. But you can't blame a guy for probably putting the word "teen" in on kazaa and DLing a bunch of shit while he goes to do something else and want to burn him at the stake cause i honestly don't see anything wrong with accidently DLing something you don't want. He was only 18 or 19 at the time so obviously he would still be attracted to girls around that age (16-17) i dunno maybe 15 even? How is it so wrong that he could have randomly DLed those files and possibly a couple of them were way too young? someone could have put the title as "teen", yet idiots like brash feel the need to condemn someone without using their 2 brain cells. I really hope you throw away your jury notices cause i sure as hell wouldn't want a stupid f**k such as yourself on a jury. This is why it is good that Lawyers can filter nitwits such as Brash out of the system ;p
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NinjaBurger
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 20:57 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | I will take a ride to the local pct and make a police report. yep, a police report, for runaway, no matter the time of day or duration. if she isn't home when I say, shes a run away. After a series of these reports , 10 or 20, I will head on down to family court. There the judge will issue me a PINS warrant. A PINS warrant is short for "people in need of supervision". Once I have my trusty PINS warrant in hand all I have to do is call 911, get a cop to follow me to her friends, house or where ever she is and we can arrest her:)
Yup, arrest her:) Then we take her to a juvenile facility and put her inside:)
See how she likes it there.....
If she insists on being a pig. |
Holy f*****g shit. That is actually frightening.
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hitachi
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 21:11 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | | anyways, maybe people like brash should learn how to control their kids if they don't want them f*****g random dudes who will video tape them. Good parenting would eliminate all that for sure. you just know some crack ho mom and dad aren't watching the kids that participate in that sort of crap. I know i wouldn't want my hypothetical 16 year old sister or daughter going and doing this, but i wouldn't want them to have **** at that age either. Well not have **** if it is some random dude who would actually video tape it. But you can't blame a guy for probably putting the word "teen" in on kazaa and DLing a bunch of shit while he goes to do something else and want to burn him at the stake cause i honestly don't see anything wrong with accidently DLing something you don't want. He was only 18 or 19 at the time so obviously he would still be attracted to girls around that age (16-17) i dunno maybe 15 even? How is it so wrong that he could have randomly DLed those files and possibly a couple of them were way too young? someone could have put the title as "teen", yet idiots like brash feel the need to condemn someone without using their 2 brain cells. I really hope you throw away your jury notices cause i sure as hell wouldn't want a stupid f**k such as yourself on a jury. This is why it is good that Lawyers can filter nitwits such as Brash out of the system ;p |
what didnt you get about 30 files on one computer and an unannounced amount on another not being random.
and once again, whatever they found would have to be obviously underage girls, not 16 or 17 year olds who looked 18. you are pulling at straws trying to defend someone you think wouldnt be capable of something like this.
you cant really be blamed, it shows loyalty in a way i guess but i know if a friend of mine downloaded child porn, i sure the f**k wouldnt defend him after he admited to doing it.
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 21:32 Post subject:
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| NinjaBurger wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | I will take a ride to the local pct and make a police report. yep, a police report, for runaway, no matter the time of day or duration. if she isn't home when I say, shes a run away. After a series of these reports , 10 or 20, I will head on down to family court. There the judge will issue me a PINS warrant. A PINS warrant is short for "people in need of supervision". Once I have my trusty PINS warrant in hand all I have to do is call 911, get a cop to follow me to her friends, house or where ever she is and we can arrest her:)
Yup, arrest her:) Then we take her to a juvenile facility and put her inside:)
See how she likes it there.....
If she insists on being a pig. |
Holy f*****g shit. That is actually frightening. |
And fun too!!
I had executed about 25 of these warrants in the past years. Its was always a joyous occasion to lock up some foul mouthed teenage a*****e, and watch as the tears start flowing when the door locks them inside kiddie jail.
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NickPSH
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 21:40 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | NinjaBurger wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | I will take a ride to the local pct and make a police report. yep, a police report, for runaway, no matter the time of day or duration. if she isn't home when I say, shes a run away. After a series of these reports , 10 or 20, I will head on down to family court. There the judge will issue me a PINS warrant. A PINS warrant is short for "people in need of supervision". Once I have my trusty PINS warrant in hand all I have to do is call 911, get a cop to follow me to her friends, house or where ever she is and we can arrest her:)
Yup, arrest her:) Then we take her to a juvenile facility and put her inside:)
See how she likes it there.....
If she insists on being a pig. |
Holy f*****g shit. That is actually frightening. |
And fun too!!
I had executed about 25 of these warrants in the past years. Its was always a joyous occasion to lock up some foul mouthed teenage a*****e, and watch as the tears start flowing when the door locks them inside kiddie jail. |
I envy you.
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Sabathius
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stop downloading files called six_year_old_boy_and_lassie_fuck.mov
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 21:47 Post subject:
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| Tizitchy Tinkergnome wrote: |
I envy you. |
Anyone can do it, in any state. The problem is most people don't have the will power to put their kids in a facility when they are chronically disobedient.
No more trips to the hair stylist for him!!!
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NickPSH
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 22:13 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Tizitchy Tinkergnome wrote: |
I envy you. |
Anyone can do it, in any state. The problem is most people don't have the will power to put their kids in a facility when they are chronically disobedient.
No more trips to the hair stylist for him!!!
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It's more the whole, getting to go do it with other people for their relatives aspect.
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Paco
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 22:25 Post subject:
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| Syke wrote: | | Paco wrote: | | WheresNWS wrote: | This man is a child f****r.
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someone can photoshop a spliff in there reaaal easily |
Holy shit paco is right....That's such a..."Damn that's some nasty schwag, but it'l put hair on my chest." type of toke... |
kinda like he's sayin, "Damn, THIS is some tasty crypy!!!"
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Tolanin
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 22:42 Post subject:
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| Shanda wrote: | | Xion wrote: | | BRASH: read the article, they state that there is no proven correlation between watching this shit and actually having the gumption to go out and act on any of it. |
There is no proven correlation, but viewing the porn supports the industry that produces it, which in turn supports the kidnapping, abuse and exploitation of children. The child(ren) are real children that are being **** abused to make the porn that he was whacking off to.
He deserves more than 10 years probation - he deserves general population in any prison in the country where the inmates can give him a taste of what it feels like to be **** exploited by those bigger and stronger.
The article also states he admitted to files on his parents computer as well - seems like pattern behavior to me. Rule of thumb: if you download porn, view it. If you even slightly suspect someone might be under age, delete the damn stuff. |
Honestly I dont suport this shit and hate anyone who does it but your a f*****g retard and I just cant let it stand, Dling free porn doesnt suport anyone, this is like saying my 3 gigs of mp3s are suporting the record industry lol, generally to be suported you actually need to buy something or watch advertisements for products that pay the industry, this would be like saying going into a pedophiles house and stealing porn is somehow suporting an industry..
Far as the government goes they need to stay the f**k out of everyones business, its getting rediculus, the constitution means shit now, and busting people like this is good but they need to find a better way to do it.
As far as rotting in jail for a victimless crime.. i dunno probation is good enough imo... no internet = no career. I mean the online real profesion i can think of that doesnt involve the net is a teacher.. and generally convicted pedophiles have a tough time getting that job.. life at mcdonalds is alot worse imo than white collar prison.
oh ya and mislabeled shit on kazaa sucks.
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 23:03 Post subject:
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Give me a break. no 16/17 year old is coerced/tricked into pornography more than a fraction of a percent compared to what it would take to coerce/trick a 18/19 year old.
You also realize that is legal in most states to have **** with a 16 year old girl. And in Hawaii and Penn.(not sure on Penn) it is legal to have **** with 14 year olds if they consent. I find 14 an abusrdly low number, but I don't see a problem with consentual **** with a 16 year old if it legal and you are within similair age groups.
I fail to understand how you find consentual "normal" porn between 2 people even if they are 16 or 17 more disgusting then the rape of a 20 year old. Or a video of a woman having **** with a lobster. Or a girl being burned with fire while she is tied down and crying. Or some sobbing japanese 20 year old forced to drink someone's urine or eat their feces. Now I realize that the examples i gave are fairly extreme, but they are easily downloadable if you wish to view them, and short of selling them they are completely legal (as far as I know).
Obviously for some, and less for others is the point I am trying to make. The reason child pornography is illegal is becuase it's exploitative and causes mental and emotional pain for a long term to most of it's victims, on top of that it's disgusting. A 16 or 17 year having consentual **** on film is much less exploitative and disgusting then some of the examples I gave above. That doesn't mean I condone watching it, it just means I'm thoughtful enough to see things as they truly are. I became a citizen of this country so I willingly follow all of it's laws to the best of my ability regardless of my opinion of them. However, if people are going to persecute child pornography from a moral standpoint then the laws regarding it need to be changed and more things need to be included in what should be illegal or penalized, the laws are hardly just to all people who commit them, and whatever you think about them as people the laws should be just in order to punish them all as they so rightly deserve.
In closing, there are a lot of things worse then child pornography out there. If you expect me to join you on your moral bandwagon then lets take all the people off the street that shouldn't be there. Not 5% of them.
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Brash
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 23:11 Post subject:
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Honestly I dont suport this shit and hate anyone who does it but your a f*****g retard and I just cant let it stand, Dling free porn doesnt suport anyone, this is like saying my 3 gigs of mp3s are suporting the record industry lol, generally to be suported you actually need to buy something or watch advertisements for products that pay the industry, this would be like saying going into a pedophiles house and stealing porn is somehow suporting an industry..
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you are suporting it by creating a demand for it you want to see the shit and some sick f**k out there wants you to see it . Alot of them don't care if you pay for it or not . not to mention the files are now on your PC and you are sharing them with other kazza users . If that is not suporting it i have no idea what is .....
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