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themy
Sir Postalot
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sorry i wrote 13, but it is 14 was a typo =x
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ashwynd
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Joined: 26 Aug 2003
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 02:13 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | Kids opinions are stupid and I my opinion is correct.
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It seems your grammar still sucks. Go back to school you jelly donut caveman.
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Bowcrusher
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 02:59 Post subject:
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Mugaaz = Tony Little ?
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 04:09 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | Kids opinions are stupid and I my opinion is correct.
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It seems your grammar still sucks. Go back to school you jelly donut caveman. |
Grammar c**t, teach me.
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hitachi
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: Maryland
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 06:32 Post subject:
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you still havnt given us any proof to the claim that all he was looking at was 16 year old girls, not 9 year old girls. his word doesnt count, considering he HAS been convicted of possesing child pornography.
like many have said already in this thread, its very unlikely he would get busted for 16 year olds, considering its very hard to show proof that someone that looks 16 isnt 18, but very easy to show a 9 year old is underage.
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 06:37 Post subject:
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Good point hit. How do they prove that anyway? Short of finding the person in the video it seems impossible.
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Spink
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 06:47 Post subject:
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Beyond reasonable doubt.
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Cryz
Sir Postalot
Joined: 17 Feb 2003
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 06:58 Post subject:
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i just read the first 4 pages of this thread.... and i only nhave one thing to say.....
| Zuldane wrote: | | Paco wrote: | | Zuldane wrote: | | I need Celestra porn |
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 13:09 Post subject:
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| Cryz wrote: | i just read the first 4 pages of this thread.... and i only nhave one thing to say.....
| Zuldane wrote: | | Paco wrote: | | Zuldane wrote: | | I need Celestra porn |
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Most likely this would involve live rabbits or people in rabbit suits.
Do we really need to watch that?
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Ashley
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Joined: 13 Mar 2003
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Location: Amfek.org
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 16:29 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | USA Pennsylvania 16 16 16 |
are you sure those are all correct? im pretty sure its 18 here.. not positive though.
anyway, the fact that a lot of you guys are defending child pornography is a bit disturbing... I think that 18 is a logical cutoff age.. any lower and its disgusting to think that 40 year old guys are out there getting off to it (regardless of the age, its still disgusting, but at least at 18 the woman is a legal adult). You guys said it "should be the girls choice"- any person under the age of 18 is not legally allowed to make many choices on their own yet, hell, under 18 we cant even drive after 11pm.. and you want it to be legal for young girls to be used for some pervert's viewing pleasure? give me a break.
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hitachi
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: Maryland
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 16:47 Post subject:
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| hunnybunny wrote: | | Quote: | | USA Pennsylvania 16 16 16 |
are you sure those are all correct? im pretty sure its 18 here.. not positive though.
anyway, the fact that a lot of you guys are defending child pornography is a bit disturbing... I think that 18 is a logical cutoff age.. any lower and its disgusting to think that 40 year old guys are out there getting off to it (regardless of the age, its still disgusting, but at least at 18 the woman is a legal adult). You guys said it "should be the girls choice"- any person under the age of 18 is not legally allowed to make many choices on their own yet, hell, under 18 we cant even drive after 11pm.. and you want it to be legal for young girls to be used for some pervert's viewing pleasure? give me a break. |
hey..so, whats your name?
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Brash
RealPoor Guru
Joined: 20 Oct 2002
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 16:54 Post subject:
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i think alot of the peoples points here are that they think they should not be punished for looking at 15 year olds the same way they would get punished for looking at 4 year olds. This may or may not be true but i think overall it would be more harmfull and life changing to the 15 year old than the 4 year old. depending what the porn was of ....
Fact is, this is a useless argument because there are no law makers out there that are willing to look soft on child porn at any age . there is no way in hell your governor is going to stand up for the rights of child molesters like some of you would like him too ....
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ashwynd
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Joined: 26 Aug 2003
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 17:37 Post subject:
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Where do you get off (pun not intended) saying people who are saying a 16 year old and 20 year old should be able to hook up is the same thing as a child molestor? 50% of the people who even read one post from this topic are not even seeing the point made by some of the claims it seems. I agree it is a useless argument, we should discuss a woman's right to abort next!
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Shanda
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 19:05 Post subject:
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The question keeps coming up about why a 16 year old can consent to have **** but can't consent to be in **** media. Moral issues aside, a minor cannot enter into a legal agreement without dispensation from the court or permission from a parent.
18 U.S.C. ' 2257 and C.F.R. 75 REQUIRES that all pornographic media produced since 1995 meets the guidelines laid out in this statute. The guidelines require that ALL participants in pornographic media, whether actual or simulated, sign a consent form and display two forms of valid identification demonstrating that they are over the age of 18. The producer must retain the form and copies of the identification.
The random porn you download off the internet using Kazaa or other services may be illegal in many aspects, not just this one. The best way to protect yourself is to only get pornographic media from producers that maintain proper records. Most free sites on the web do this, as well as premium sites, magazines, and mainstream video producers. If you cannot show that the material you possess meets these requirements and the models look young, you can be prosecuted.
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Jukas
Toomuchtimeonhands
Joined: 19 Mar 2003
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 19:39 Post subject: Re: f****d up shit regarding the govt. and Kazaa
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| themy wrote: | | one of my friend's relatives recently got arrested on child porn charges because he DLed some file off of kazaa. apparently the govt is putting up files for people to download and then tracing IPs through either a program or kazaa itself. just a warning to ppl if they do that kinda stuff to be careful ;p they were trying to get 15 years on him so he had to enter a plea and get 10 years probation. kinda sucks cause he's only 20. anyways it is pretty f****d up that big brother is watching things like that and we get no privacy at all, even if you can say that it doesn't hurt if you aren't doing anything bad. but i mean seriously who doesn't at least do one bad thing in their life. anyways, in conclusion the govt is overstepping their bounds here and it is seriously messed up. need more privacy ;p |
He was downloading porn of little kids. Anyone who gets their jollies by watching little kids naked deserves what they get when caught.
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r00typooh
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Location: Miami, FL
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 20:43 Post subject:
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| hunnybunny wrote: | | Quote: | | USA Pennsylvania 16 16 16 |
are you sure those are all correct? im pretty sure its 18 here.. not positive though.
anyway, the fact that a lot of you guys are defending child pornography is a bit disturbing... I think that 18 is a logical cutoff age.. any lower and its disgusting to think that 40 year old guys are out there getting off to it (regardless of the age, its still disgusting, but at least at 18 the woman is a legal adult). You guys said it "should be the girls choice"- any person under the age of 18 is not legally allowed to make many choices on their own yet, hell, under 18 we cant even drive after 11pm.. and you want it to be legal for young girls to be used for some pervert's viewing pleasure? give me a break. |
you can have **** with anyone yopu want ashley. it is tru. i researched a lot k thx
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ashwynd
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Posted: 01/23/04 - 22:47 Post subject:
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| Shanda wrote: | The question keeps coming up about why a 16 year old can consent to have **** but can't consent to be in **** media. Moral issues aside, a minor cannot enter into a legal agreement without dispensation from the court or permission from a parent.
18 U.S.C. ' 2257 and C.F.R. 75 REQUIRES that all pornographic media produced since 1995 meets the guidelines laid out in this statute. The guidelines require that ALL participants in pornographic media, whether actual or simulated, sign a consent form and display two forms of valid identification demonstrating that they are over the age of 18. The producer must retain the form and copies of the identification.
The random porn you download off the internet using Kazaa or other services may be illegal in many aspects, not just this one. The best way to protect yourself is to only get pornographic media from producers that maintain proper records. Most free sites on the web do this, as well as premium sites, magazines, and mainstream video producers. If you cannot show that the material you possess meets these requirements and the models look young, you can be prosecuted. |
There's such a thing as free sites? O_o Jukas, I didn't read the part where it mentioned the porn was of little kids. Please post it here so I can read it if I missed it, thanks!
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Brash
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Posted: 01/24/04 - 03:33 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | | Where do you get off (pun not intended) saying people who are saying a 16 year old and 20 year old should be able to hook up is the same thing as a child molestor? 50% of the people who even read one post from this topic are not even seeing the point made by some of the claims it seems. I agree it is a useless argument, we should discuss a woman's right to abort next! |
did i say it was the same thing ?
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ashwynd
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Posted: 01/24/04 - 06:34 Post subject:
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| Brash wrote: | | ashwynd wrote: | | Where do you get off (pun not intended) saying people who are saying a 16 year old and 20 year old should be able to hook up is the same thing as a child molestor? 50% of the people who even read one post from this topic are not even seeing the point made by some of the claims it seems. I agree it is a useless argument, we should discuss a woman's right to abort next! |
did i say it was the same thing ? |
| Brash wrote: | | there is no way in hell your governor is going to stand up for the rights of child molesters like some of you would like him too .... |
Not exactly, but you sure hinted strongly towards it 
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themy
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 01/24/04 - 07:50 Post subject:
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i am not saying that they should lower the age, just merely stating that there is an age discrepency between the state ages of consent and the federal legal age to be in pronographic material. to me these ages should be one and the same. It is kind of like the drinking age being 21, but the mandatory draft is 18.... hmm so that means a person cannot in exxence "kill themselves" by drinking alcohol but the state can throw their lives away at war? doesn't seem right to me to have differing ages.
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Brash
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Posted: 01/24/04 - 12:51 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | | Brash wrote: | | ashwynd wrote: | | Where do you get off (pun not intended) saying people who are saying a 16 year old and 20 year old should be able to hook up is the same thing as a child molestor? 50% of the people who even read one post from this topic are not even seeing the point made by some of the claims it seems. I agree it is a useless argument, we should discuss a woman's right to abort next! |
did i say it was the same thing ? |
| Brash wrote: | | there is no way in hell your governor is going to stand up for the rights of child molesters like some of you would like him too .... |
Not exactly, but you sure hinted strongly towards it |
Fact is that in most states the law says a 20 year old who f***s a 16 year old is a child molester. I don't think we will see a surge of politicians who want to run on a platform of being light on child porn. The laws are here to protect our kids and the average american voter would go nuts if thier governor ever brought that up ...
I don't think the the views expressed here in any way represent the average american's thoughts. Realpoor is filled with teens and young 20's .As you all get older and have your own children you will see how easily manipulated kids can be bent to your will . Even more so the kids who already have been harmed. These laws are here to protect that from happening. If that means that a couple that has been in love for 8 years but are now 17 and 20 can't legally have **** that so what. Life is a give and take and what you get from this law is much more than what is taken . Not to mention the couple mentioned above will never have a problem anyways as it is thier private life and charges would never be pressed unless the girl turned on him and called the police all the suden . i guess even there the guy knew the risks ......
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Brash
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Posted: 01/24/04 - 13:00 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | | i am not saying that they should lower the age, just merely stating that there is an age discrepency between the state ages of consent and the federal legal age to be in pronographic material. to me these ages should be one and the same. It is kind of like the drinking age being 21, but the mandatory draft is 18.... hmm so that means a person cannot in exxence "kill themselves" by drinking alcohol but the state can throw their lives away at war? doesn't seem right to me to have differing ages. |
The differance is the feds send you to war . States decide on thier own when you can drink . I guess i don't think its such a bad idea to not have highschool seniors and all collage kids to be able to drink . i know they do anyways but maybe not as much as they would if they could go to bars .
Do you really think there is no difference in two people in love having **** privately and someone who is 16 and starting her porn career ?
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Shanda
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Posted: 01/24/04 - 17:38 Post subject:
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| Brash wrote: | | The differance is the feds send you to war . States decide on thier own when you can drink . I guess i don't think its such a bad idea to not have highschool seniors and all collage kids to be able to drink . i know they do anyways but maybe not as much as they would if they could go to bars . |
Actually, this isn't true. The federal government all but forced states to make 21 the legal drinking age by holding funds hostage. So the federal government has set the age by bribing the states into compliance. States cannot afford to lose funding for highways, expansion, etc.
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Brash
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Posted: 01/24/04 - 18:44 Post subject:
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| Shanda wrote: | | Brash wrote: | | The differance is the feds send you to war . States decide on thier own when you can drink . I guess i don't think its such a bad idea to not have highschool seniors and all collage kids to be able to drink . i know they do anyways but maybe not as much as they would if they could go to bars . |
Actually, this isn't true. The federal government all but forced states to make 21 the legal drinking age by holding funds hostage. So the federal government has set the age by bribing the states into compliance. States cannot afford to lose funding for highways, expansion, etc. |
states have the choice ...... they just loose some funding but there is nothing making them do it.
feds take funds if you dont make the BA limet .08 but some states still keep the limet at .1
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Occulis
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Posted: 08/27/04 - 11:45 Post subject:
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If someone calls a file "GIrls Gone Wild Episode 6" and it ends up being some sick child porn stuff, it's not your fault for downloading it. However, it is your fault for keeping it around.
People don't typically get arrested because they have 1 or 2 files. Think about it - do you really think the feds arresting these people are low on suspects? I don't. They probably don't have the manpower to track down everyone. So they're not going to waste their time popping a guy with 5 or 10 videos.
If you were a law enforcement agent, would you rather bust the guy with a 10 gig library or the guy with 10 videos?
Assuming the feds have a choice, why would they pick anyone to arrest for something so questionable? 10 videos my ass! The guy probably had a gig or more.
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Paco
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Posted: 08/27/04 - 11:53 Post subject:
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let this thread die
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Devook
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Posted: 08/27/04 - 11:54 Post subject:
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 ... Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004
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Luturb
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Posted: 08/27/04 - 12:13 Post subject:
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Wuwu 7 month bump.
So is your pervert buddy in jail or not Themy?
EDIT: Nm, just noticed it said he got 10 years probation in the first post. I guess he *could* be in jail if he did anything else wrong.
Please ignore everything in this post except the first line :p.
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principessa
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Posted: 08/27/04 - 14:29 Post subject:
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ya know, when I first read the title of this thread, I thought it said goat and not govt and was thinking...wtf has a goat to do with Kazaa?
Yes, I need sleep.
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