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Zapper
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| Confused wrote: | | Zapper wrote: | | So basically you are condoning murder? Since Saddam killed many we can kill a few? You f*****g scumbag you think just like a Nazi. |
Doing nothing condones murder. Stopping it doesn't. You condone genocide. You are worse than the worst of the nazis. |
How many murders in your city this year? How Have you tried to stop them?...Murderer..
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:12 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | It disgusts me too. I just wonder why so many people are disgusted by this, but felt no disgust when we dropped bombs on innocent suburban neighborhoods killing whole families every time we heard a rumor that Saddam or one of his sons or associates was there, or when a US soldier aims at an eight year old girl and shoots her in the head and the military says it was a "warning shot" that "went astray", or when we beat people to death in prisons, or our soldiers harness and ride an innocent 70 year old woman like a donkey in prison because they think she might know someone they're interested in, or when US troops expel dying children, that they shot, from hospitals to make room for US soldiers.
It's all disgusting. It's just not all surprising. |
Only scum would compare an accidental shooting to the intentional beheading of an innocent civilian. |
What do you expect from this liberal, democrat, c**t.
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:14 Post subject:
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| Haroun Zehra wrote: | 1. I don't doubt that it is wrong for a foreigner to kill an American because of a political agenda. However, if you want to be taken seriously, show us that you care about Americans killing Americans for their wallets, their cars, their wives, every single day, first.
2. The whole thing may not be ALL about oil. However, if you don't think it's at least partially about oil, well, you're foolish. |
Liberal, socialist canadian, leech.
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:17 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Xthos wrote: |
2. I will tell you how oil figures into this, Iraq is a rich country because of the oil. So it makes him more capable of being a threat and a menace, verse another country with the same attrocities going on, i.e. some of the african nations that are like Iraq, but poor. Sadly one people suffering shouldn't be greater then anothers, but it is. |
Let's not forget the UN's affinity for illegal oil deals. That came into play too. |
LOL
Nothing is on the level. You never hear the liberal scumbags squealing about all the side deals handed to the euros.
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:21 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Haroun Zehra wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Haroun Zehra wrote: | 1. I don't doubt that it is wrong for a foreigner to kill an American because of a political agenda. However, if you want to be taken seriously, show us that you care about Americans killing Americans for their wallets, their cars, their wives, every single day, first.
2. The whole thing may not be ALL about oil. However, if you don't think it's at least partially about oil, well, you're foolish. |
If you can only see the impact up to the cost of gas TODAY, well, you are pretty simple-minded indeed.
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Why are you adding your own text to my quote? Is it because you're so incapable of countering the pure facts with your mindlessly generated propaganda that you need to alter what was initially said? You sir, are Canadian. That's all you'll ever be. |
Yeah, but the little c**t felt the need to live in the world(New Your City) for a while. Every once in a while he tosses that out there like it gives him some credibility.
It doesn't, hes still a liberal, socialist canadian, leech.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:22 Post subject:
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They cant kill Americans with bombs cause they don't have any so they cut off their head.
The diff is when the US kill innocents it's called a mistake..but when another country kill an American civilian it's called a murder...
The US is only getting dumber every passing day.
This guy was'nt in the military so WTH was he doing in Irak?
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:22 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Booker wrote: | some of our soldiers did publically humiliate iraqi prisoners; i would be mad also.
you cannot expect them to have the same worldview and moral values as you do. |
And the difference is? US Soldiers who abuse iraqi prisoners.. will be going to jail. These terrorists will continue to kill and stir up shit as long as they are alive, no one will punish them but us. Occasionally they get one of us, in return we get 50 of them. Seems like a pretty good trade off to keep Starbucks and McDonalds and HBO and Wal-mart in business to me.
Is it a shame that this guy was murdered? Yep, but be realistic, the world f*****g sucks. Life is cheap in most of the world other than North America and parts of Europe, and always has been. This kind of shit goes on everyday around the world, some of you only seem to get this exaggerated outrage when it happens to an "american". The world has never been some happy happy joy joy fluffy place with flowers and bunnies and everyone farting rose petals. Get real.
Two estimates in this http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-1107&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040511%2F1622066025.htm&sc=1107&photoid=20031214LON129 article put Saddam Hussein's genocide numbers anywhere between 300,000 and 1,000,000. Tell me again why it is so bad for us to be in Iraq? |
Bravo! So true.
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Zwadrich
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:24 Post subject:
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Frax
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:27 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | They cant kill Americans with bombs cause they don't have any so they cut off their head.
The diff is when the US kill innocents it's called a mistake..but when another country kill an American civilian it's called a murder...
The US is only getting dumber every passing day.
This guy was'nt in the military so WTH was he doing in Irak? |
you know, helping to rebuild their infrastructure so Iraq can have a future as more than an occupied territory of the USA? Your post is proof of the ignorance that people have about what is going on in Iraq. The US and a few other nations are spending billions and billions of dollars to rebuild that country. The Red Cross and Red Crescent and tons of other humanitarian organisations are helping to feed people there.
But all you twats focus on is the negative part because it suits your awful, misguided view of the world.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:30 Post subject:
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I would not go in Irak to help them rebuild cause i'm not stupid.
Soldiers get killed every day so how stupid do civilians need to be to even put a feet in such a dangerous area?
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Confused
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:35 Post subject:
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| Zapper wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Zapper wrote: | | So basically you are condoning murder? Since Saddam killed many we can kill a few? You f*****g scumbag you think just like a Nazi. |
Doing nothing condones murder. Stopping it doesn't. You condone genocide. You are worse than the worst of the nazis. |
How many murders in your city this year? How Have you tried to stop them?...Murderer.. |
d*****s. If I knew of a murder that was to take place, of course I would stop it. You, on the other hand, like the idea of 1,000,000 known murders because you're a genocidal liberal (is that redundant?).
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Nahualli
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:37 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | I would not go in Irak to help them rebuild cause i'm not stupid.
Soldiers get killed every day so how stupid do civilians need to be to even put a feet in such a dangerous area? |
Same reason NFL players turn in their helmets for desert camos and go fight overseas.. it's called conviction. Sometimes it's greed.. but greed requires a little bit of conviction in its own right.
I'm waiting for the "hahaha d*****s f**k you can't even spell Iraq" comments.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:40 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | | Maelstrom wrote: | I would not go in Irak to help them rebuild cause i'm not stupid.
Soldiers get killed every day so how stupid do civilians need to be to even put a feet in such a dangerous area? |
Same reason NFL players turn in their helmets for desert camos and go fight overseas.. it's called conviction. Sometimes it's greed.. but greed requires a little bit of conviction in its own right.
I'm waiting for the "hahaha d*****s f**k you can't even spell Iraq" comments.
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It's diff you don't go into a area where armed soldiers get killed regulary...
Bush is a moron you don't start rebuilds when the conflict is still going on.
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Roskoe
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:41 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | I would not go in Irak to help them rebuild cause i'm not stupid.
Soldiers get killed every day so how stupid do civilians need to be to even put a feet in such a dangerous area? |
Because some people want to help rebuild that shithole instead of sitting online complaining about every little piece of shit that goes on over there but doesnt have the balls to step foot within 3 countries of it.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:46 Post subject:
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| Roskoe wrote: | | Maelstrom wrote: | I would not go in Irak to help them rebuild cause i'm not stupid.
Soldiers get killed every day so how stupid do civilians need to be to even put a feet in such a dangerous area? |
Because some people want to help rebuild that shithole instead of sitting online complaining about every little piece of shit that goes on over there but doesnt have the balls to step foot within 3 countries of it. |
Thats what I said cause they are stupid. takes a real moron to enter a country that you are not welcome.
But if you like the idea so much feel free to visit Irak.
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Zapper
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:48 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Zapper wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Zapper wrote: | | So basically you are condoning murder? Since Saddam killed many we can kill a few? You f*****g scumbag you think just like a Nazi. |
Doing nothing condones murder. Stopping it doesn't. You condone genocide. You are worse than the worst of the nazis. |
How many murders in your city this year? How Have you tried to stop them?...Murderer.. |
d*****s. If I knew of a murder that was to take place, of course I would stop it. You, on the other hand, like the idea of 1,000,000 known murders because you're a genocidal liberal (is that redundant?). |
Wow so much idiocy in one post its hard to fathom. By your own redneck standards you are condoning murders in your city. By calling me a d*****s you are in fact insulting yourself since I am using your own argument. You are so f*****g stupid it isnt even funny. Are you inbred or something? Maybe uncle dad didn't pay enough attention to you when you were a kid.
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Neone
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The diff is when the US kill innocents it's called a mistake..but when another country kill an American civilian it's called a murder...
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Are you trying to tell me that they accidently chopped off his head? 
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:52 Post subject:
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The diff is when the US kill innocents it's called a mistake..but when another country kill an American civilian it's called a murder...
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Are you trying to tell me that they accidently chopped off his head? |
No they just could'nt pass it for an accident cause they don't have bombs unlike the US, ya know..those supposed heavy bombs...
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Confused
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:53 Post subject:
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| Zapper wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Zapper wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Zapper wrote: | | So basically you are condoning murder? Since Saddam killed many we can kill a few? You f*****g scumbag you think just like a Nazi. |
Doing nothing condones murder. Stopping it doesn't. You condone genocide. You are worse than the worst of the nazis. |
How many murders in your city this year? How Have you tried to stop them?...Murderer.. |
d*****s. If I knew of a murder that was to take place, of course I would stop it. You, on the other hand, like the idea of 1,000,000 known murders because you're a genocidal liberal (is that redundant?). |
Wow so much idiocy in one post its hard to fathom. By your own redneck standards you are condoning murders in your city. By calling me a d*****s you are in fact insulting yourself since I am using your own argument. You are so f*****g stupid it isnt even funny. Are you inbred or something? Maybe uncle dad didn't pay enough attention to you when you were a kid. |
I'll break this down for you since you are a leftist and therefore stupid.
You:
1. You knew of mass murder in Iraq perpetrated by Saddam Huessin.
2. You criticise the US for killing a small number of civilians which resulted in an end of the mass murder.
3. You therefore condone a situation where the US does not invade and Saddam continues to kill hundreds of thousands/year.
4. You therefore condone the killing of hundreds of thousands/year
Me:
1. I am not aware of any murder that is to take place.
2. I therefore do nothing, being innocent of any knowledge of a potential murder.
3. If I were aware of a murder that would take place, I would stop it.
4. I therefore do not condone murder.
Summary:
You condone mass-murder of innocent civilians. I do not. Liberal scum.
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Syke
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:53 Post subject:
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Wrong. You support genocide. The world tried (and failed) to get him out via peaceful means for over 10 years. During that time he killed over a million people. Every additional year you want of negotion resulted in another 100,000 deaths. Approximately the same number of people accidentally died in the time frame of the invasion that would have intentionally been killed by your precious leader. So yes, to say that you would rather the US not invade is the same as saying you condone the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. You're a great person. Can I get a hug from you? |
| Syke wrote: | | Do you even know what's been done to take Saddam out of power in the past 10 years, or are you just pulling that little fact out of your ass? Why not show us what has been done to remove Saddam? I never really heard anything about ousting saddam until the recent talk of WoMD over the past few years. So, please enlighten me as to how all our efforts in removing saddam in the past 10 years have been thwarted. |
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:55 Post subject:
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The sad part is that most here watched with morbid fascination coupled with at least part eagerness another person get his head cut off, and only commented on how sick it looked.
Dropping bombs and killing civilians in the process isn't the same as cutting a mans head off while wearing ski masks and videotaping the event. Not even remotely. Those of you who think that it is, are absolute morons. Perhaps thinking before making such comparisons would help people not think of you as idiots.
Bottom line is, what happened is wrong. There is no justification for this, and any made are misguided at best.
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Zapper
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:57 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Zapper wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Zapper wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Zapper wrote: | | So basically you are condoning murder? Since Saddam killed many we can kill a few? You f*****g scumbag you think just like a Nazi. |
Doing nothing condones murder. Stopping it doesn't. You condone genocide. You are worse than the worst of the nazis. |
How many murders in your city this year? How Have you tried to stop them?...Murderer.. |
d*****s. If I knew of a murder that was to take place, of course I would stop it. You, on the other hand, like the idea of 1,000,000 known murders because you're a genocidal liberal (is that redundant?). |
Wow so much idiocy in one post its hard to fathom. By your own redneck standards you are condoning murders in your city. By calling me a d*****s you are in fact insulting yourself since I am using your own argument. You are so f*****g stupid it isnt even funny. Are you inbred or something? Maybe uncle dad didn't pay enough attention to you when you were a kid. |
I'll break this down for you since you are a leftist and therefore stupid.
You:
1. You knew of mass murder in Iraq perpetrated by Saddam Huessin.
2. You criticise the US for killing a small number of civilians which resulted in an end of the mass murder.
3. You therefore condone a situation where the US does not invade and Saddam continues to kill hundreds of thousands/year.
4. You therefore condone the killing of hundreds of thousands/year
Me:
1. I am not aware of any murder that is to take place.
2. I therefore do nothing, being innocent of any knowledge of a potential murder.
3. If I were aware of a murder that would take place, I would stop it.
4. I therefore do not condone murder.
Summary:
You condone mass-murder of innocent civilians. I do not. Liberal scum. |
Wow so you are saying that I had knowledge of these mass murders before they occured? Holy shit I must be psychic. On a serious note this may be too much for your inbred mind.
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Confused
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 18:58 Post subject:
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| Syke wrote: | | Confused wrote: |
Wrong. You support genocide. The world tried (and failed) to get him out via peaceful means for over 10 years. During that time he killed over a million people. Every additional year you want of negotion resulted in another 100,000 deaths. Approximately the same number of people accidentally died in the time frame of the invasion that would have intentionally been killed by your precious leader. So yes, to say that you would rather the US not invade is the same as saying you condone the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. You're a great person. Can I get a hug from you? |
| Syke wrote: | | Do you even know what's been done to take Saddam out of power in the past 10 years, or are you just pulling that little fact out of your ass? Why not show us what has been done to remove Saddam? I never really heard anything about ousting saddam until the recent talk of WoMD over the past few years. So, please enlighten me as to how all our efforts in removing saddam in the past 10 years have been thwarted. |
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Very dumb. Count the UN resolutions. Look at America's frustration with their inaction. Look at how many died as we obeyed them for a decade. Look what our magnificence ended. Our military might brings justice to the world while leftists believe only they are entitled.
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Syke
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So basically what you're trying to do here is avoid my question.
You're giving me a general answer that doesn't verify your argument in the first place.
I want specific examples of attempts by the US or any other governing body, to take Saddam from power via peaceful means.
That's all I'm asking.
And to your last comment, leftists don't only believe "they" are entitled, they believe their way is the way to justify the means. If it's not justified, it's not something to be done. If it's not carefully thought out and considered, then it's not something to be done.
This is how a lot of "leftists" feel...there should have been more to consider before going to war. War was definitely an option, and still is, but it should have been saved for last. (and no, not so Saddam can kill more people, I don't support Genocide you freak of nature)
You're just a stereotyping b*****d that likes to decide that everyone that disagrees with you is stupid or ignorant or unpatriotic.
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 19:11 Post subject:
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| Syke wrote: | So basically what you're trying to do here is avoid my question.
You're giving me a general answer that doesn't verify your argument in the first place.
I want specific examples of attempts by the US or any other governing body, to take Saddam from power via peaceful means.
That's all I'm asking.
And to your last comment, leftists don't only believe "they" are entitled, they believe their way is the way to justify the means. If it's not justified, it's not something to be done. If it's not carefully thought out and considered, then it's not something to be done.
This is how a lot of "leftists" feel...there should have been more to consider before going to war. War was definitely an option, and still is, but it should have been saved for last. (and no, not so Saddam can kill more people, I don't support Genocide you freak of nature)
You're just a stereotyping b*****d that likes to decide that everyone that disagrees with you is stupid or ignorant or unpatriotic. |
America engaged in a decade of the old (but not very effective) means of economic sanctions to encourage a national rebellion. Saddam was too effective, however. America contained Saddam with the no-fly zones to prevent the use of WMD on the Kurds. Weapons inspections were carried out to prevent Saddam from using his WMD. Arms sales were restricted to him. Completely ineffective UN resolutions were enacted. All of this failed to have a substantial enough effect in the long run. So in went the tanks.
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Xthos
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 19:34 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | They cant kill Americans with bombs cause they don't have any so they cut off their head.
The diff is when the US kill innocents it's called a mistake..but when another country kill an American civilian it's called a murder...
The US is only getting dumber every passing day.
This guy was'nt in the military so WTH was he doing in Irak? |
I think you are getting more retarded as you get older. Wtf do you think all the street bombs that are killing soldiers, and their own people are....bombs. I don't think you can accidently cut someones head off, you can accidently kill someone in a fire fight.
Like it or not, their is a difference between someone being killed unintentially from a strategically guided bomb, and someone purposfully taking a weapon and picking a person to kill by hand.
Get a clue, you cant be that stupid.
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 19:34 Post subject:
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not one link to the video?
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Syke
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 19:59 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Syke wrote: | So basically what you're trying to do here is avoid my question.
You're giving me a general answer that doesn't verify your argument in the first place.
I want specific examples of attempts by the US or any other governing body, to take Saddam from power via peaceful means.
That's all I'm asking.
And to your last comment, leftists don't only believe "they" are entitled, they believe their way is the way to justify the means. If it's not justified, it's not something to be done. If it's not carefully thought out and considered, then it's not something to be done.
This is how a lot of "leftists" feel...there should have been more to consider before going to war. War was definitely an option, and still is, but it should have been saved for last. (and no, not so Saddam can kill more people, I don't support Genocide you freak of nature)
You're just a stereotyping b*****d that likes to decide that everyone that disagrees with you is stupid or ignorant or unpatriotic. |
America engaged in a decade of the old (but not very effective) means of economic sanctions to encourage a national rebellion. Saddam was too effective, however. America contained Saddam with the no-fly zones to prevent the use of WMD on the Kurds. Weapons inspections were carried out to prevent Saddam from using his WMD. Arms sales were restricted to him. Completely ineffective UN resolutions were enacted. All of this failed to have a substantial enough effect in the long run. So in went the tanks. |
So the only options are War, and economic sanctions? There is absolutely nothing else that could have been done to remove Saddam from power?
Sanctions would only be detrimental to our cause, just as the pictures of butt humping Iraqi's in the American fortified prison was detrimental to our cause. Economic sanctions aren't something to be relied on, as they aren't always effective.
I still think there is room to believe that there could have been more to consider before the war was started. Like I said, war was and is definitely an option, it's just one of the most brutal ones you can decide on, and may not be any more effective than economic sanctions. I don't think Bush tried to do anything besides pick a war with Iraq, that's one of the main reasons why I even defend the idea that more could have been considered.
"Leftists" cling to this idea, not genocide, not unpatriotism, just this one fundamental idea. So stop stereotyping them into your own f****d up view.
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Confused
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 20:08 Post subject:
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| Syke wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Syke wrote: | So basically what you're trying to do here is avoid my question.
You're giving me a general answer that doesn't verify your argument in the first place.
I want specific examples of attempts by the US or any other governing body, to take Saddam from power via peaceful means.
That's all I'm asking.
And to your last comment, leftists don't only believe "they" are entitled, they believe their way is the way to justify the means. If it's not justified, it's not something to be done. If it's not carefully thought out and considered, then it's not something to be done.
This is how a lot of "leftists" feel...there should have been more to consider before going to war. War was definitely an option, and still is, but it should have been saved for last. (and no, not so Saddam can kill more people, I don't support Genocide you freak of nature)
You're just a stereotyping b*****d that likes to decide that everyone that disagrees with you is stupid or ignorant or unpatriotic. |
America engaged in a decade of the old (but not very effective) means of economic sanctions to encourage a national rebellion. Saddam was too effective, however. America contained Saddam with the no-fly zones to prevent the use of WMD on the Kurds. Weapons inspections were carried out to prevent Saddam from using his WMD. Arms sales were restricted to him. Completely ineffective UN resolutions were enacted. All of this failed to have a substantial enough effect in the long run. So in went the tanks. |
So the only options are War, and economic sanctions? There is absolutely nothing else that could have been done to remove Saddam from power? |
lol...yes. What are you going to do? Ask him nicely? Or perhaps we could encourage an Al Queda insurgency? What exactly is this mysterious 3rd option that liberals always hint at but never provide?
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Nuldaan
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Joined: 07 Nov 2002
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Posted: 05/11/04 - 20:11 Post subject:
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| Syke wrote: |
So the only options are War, and economic sanctions? There is absolutely nothing else that could have been done to remove Saddam from power?
Sanctions would only be detrimental to our cause, just as the pictures of butt humping Iraqi's in the American fortified prison was detrimental to our cause. Economic sanctions aren't something to be relied on, as they aren't always effective.
I still think there is room to believe that there could have been more to consider before the war was started. Like I said, war was and is definitely an option, it's just one of the most brutal ones you can decide on, and may not be any more effective than economic sanctions. I don't think Bush tried to do anything besides pick a war with Iraq, that's one of the main reasons why I even defend the idea that more could have been considered.
"Leftists" cling to this idea, not genocide, not unpatriotism, just this one fundamental idea. So stop stereotyping them into your own f****d up view. |
Syke, I have to be honest with you. This argument annoys me to no end. This argument is always trotted out during these discussions. It's easy to say there must be a better way yet no one has ever offered one. If you disagree with the method Bush chose, how would you go about doing it? Better yet, find me one solution that works from anyone. It doesn't have to be your idea, it just needs to be viable.
The world tried UN sanctions. We tried weapons inspections. We tried humanitarian aid. Nothing worked. It's time he was gone. Ten years of attempted and failed peaceful solutions is long enough. Saddam had his chance. Diplomacy had it's chance. We have no other option when diplomacy fails. War is all that's left.
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