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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 19:49    Post subject: for Kbarr... KERRY IS WINNIG ! Reply with quote

well, I dont believe polls mean jack shit but just cuz I love Kbarr so much...

KERRY IS WINNIG ! Laughing

AP poll: Kerry takes slim lead
Gains ground on all issues, including security
Thursday, October 7, 2004 Posted: 7:19 PM EDT (2319 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sen. John Kerry has taken a slim lead over President Bush, according to an Associated Press poll that shows the president's support slipping on personal qualities, the war in Iraq and the commander in chief's bedrock campaign issue -- national security.

Fewer voters than a month ago believe Bush is the best man to protect the country and fight the Iraq war.

The AP-Ipsos Public Affairs poll, completed on the eve of the second presidential debate, showed a reversal from early September, when the Republican incumbent had the momentum and a minuscule lead. With bloodshed increasing in Iraq, Kerry sharpened his attacks, and Bush stumbled in their initial debate.

Among 944 likely voters, the Kerry-Edwards ticket led Bush-Cheney 50 percent to 46 percent. The Oct. 4-6 survey had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. (Special Report: America Votes 2004, Poll Tracker)

The race was tied 47-47 percent among all registered voters, with a 2.5 point margin of error. Other polls show the race just as tight.

Nearly three-fourths of likely voters who were surveyed said they had watched or listened to the first presidential debate last week. Some 39 percent said they came away with a more favorable view of Kerry, while just 8 percent felt better about Bush.

"I was more comfortable with Kerry after the debate," said Louis Robinson, a 66-year-old retiree from Pittsburgh. "I just like the way he carried himself." Nearly a third of likely voters who watched said the debate gave them a less favorable view of Bush.

Nearly six in 10 of all the people questioned -- likely voters or not -- said the country was headed on the wrong track, reflecting a gloomy national mood that could jeopardize Bush's re-election bid. His overall approval rating among likely voters, 46 percent, was at its lowest point since June -- down from 54 percent in late September.

Eric Schlichting, a suburban Chicago inventory manager who tends to vote Republican, said Iraq is troubling him.

"Up until the last 18 months, I was leaning toward Bush, but the more that happens the worse it gets," Schlichting said. "He sticks to his guns, but his aim is so far off that sticking to his guns is not paying off."

While national polls gauge the potential popular vote, the real race for the White House is playing out one state at a time. That competition is remarkably close, with analysts saying both candidates are within reach of the 270 electoral votes needed to claim the presidency.

Bush is threatening Kerry's claim to Democratic-leaning states such as Wisconsin, Iowa, New Mexico and New Jersey. Kerry is pressing Bush's advantage in the two most critical states, Florida and Ohio, as well as GOP-leaning Colorado.

Bush advisers privately acknowledge that in the first debate he cost himself by fidgeting and grimacing during Kerry's answers, and failing to seize upon openings the Democrat gave him. They felt better about Vice President d**k Cheney's performance Tuesday against Kerry running mate Sen. John Edwards, and predicted that Bush would be sharper -- and tougher on Kerry -- during Friday night's debate in St. Louis.

In the broad scheme of things, Kerry's advances in opinion polls may be nothing more than a political adjustment -- a nudge of the pendulum rather than a big swing. But for some Republicans, the shift came as a shock, because they had looked at the first debate as a chance to put the race away.

Instead, Bush lost his momentum.

Bush strategist Matthew Dowd said he believes the president still leads Kerry, "but we're down from where we were last week. That's a fact. It's also the nature of the race. We've always said it was going to be a two- or three-point contest."

Said Kerry campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill: "Now that we're at the debates and people can see them on the same stage, they see Kerry has a plan to solve the problems in Iraq and that the president continues to focus on the past."

Dowd and his fellow Republicans have also said Bush would prevail because he's considered the strongest leader in a time of war. That is now open to debate.

On the question of who would protect the country, Bush led Kerry 51 percent to 45 percent among likely voters -- down from the 20-point lead that Bush held in a Sept. 7-9 poll by AP-Ipsos.

Bush's approval rating on handling foreign policy and the war on terror was 49 percent -- down from 55 percent in a Sept. 20-22 poll by AP-Ipsos.

Forty-four percent of likely voters approve of the commander in chief's handling of the war in Iraq, down from 51 percent in the late-September poll. It was 49-46 Bush on the question of who is best suited to handle Iraq, within the poll's margin of error.

On the eve of Friday's debate, Bush was forced by a critical new report to concede that Iraq did not have the stockpiles of banned weapons he had warned of before the 2003 invasion. Still, he insisted Thursday, "we were right to take action" against Saddam Hussein. Kerry renewed his assertion that Bush had misled voters and mismanaged the war.

Virtually across the board, Bush's approval ratings were as low as they have been since June. Kerry gained among women, opening a 12-point lead while slashing the president's advantage with men.

Less than half of likely voters, 47 percent, approve of Bush's performance on the economy and just 43 percent give him good marks for other domestic policies.

Bush and Kerry are considered equally likable, after Bush's ratings went down and Kerry's went up for an 11-point swing.

Slightly more voters consider Kerry honest, a reversal from last month. Far more voters consider Bush decisive (73 percent) than Kerry (43 percent), but the gap closed by 8 points.

Kerry widened his lead on the question of who would create jobs, with 54 percent favoring him and 40 percent Bush
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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 19:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

man i wanna say Kerry is a lock (just for Kbarr).. but i can't

this certainly is encouraging though
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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 19:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

And yet Reuters/Zogby says Bush is still up by a small margin. Race has definetely tightened up but I still think (and hope) Bush will win.

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/43159|top|10-07-2004::07:12|reuters.html

By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
ST. LOUIS (Reuters) - President Bush holds a narrow two-point lead over Democratic challenger John Kerry less than four weeks before the Nov. 2 presidential election, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Thursday.

Bush led the Massachusetts senator 46-44 percent in the initial three-day tracking poll, with eight percent of likely voters still undecided ahead of Friday's second face-to-face debate between the White House rivals in St. Louis.

With the war in Iraq dominating the campaign agenda, Kerry opened a 51-39 percent lead over Bush among voters who cite Iraq as the top issue. Bush held a 68-26 percent lead among voters who cite the war on terror as the top issue.

But while Kerry once hoped the economy would give him a vital advantage, he has not been able to break away from Bush among voters worried about the topic.

"Kerry's edge on the economy is gone," pollster John Zogby said. "Among those who cite the economy as the top issue, the candidates are in a dead heat -- Bush holding a slight edge" at 46-44 percent.

The national tracking poll of 1,217 likely voters, the first in a daily series that will continue through Nov. 1, was taken Monday through Wednesday and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.

A tracking poll combines the results of three consecutive nights of polling, then drops the first night's results each time a new night is added. It allows pollsters to record shifts in voter sentiment as they happen.

The White House race has seesawed in the last month, with Bush opening a lead in most polls after the Republican convention in early September and Kerry surging back after last week's debate.

The Reuters/Zogby survey was taken after the debate, where Kerry aggressively questioned Bush's policies on Iraq and put the president on the defensive.

The new poll also was sandwiched around Tuesday's debate between Bush's and Kerry's running mates, Vice President d**k Cheney and Sen. John Edwards, who sharply disagreed on Iraq and repeatedly traded personal attacks over their records and judgment.

Zogby said the poll reflected America's deep divisions going into the final month of the campaign. It found Kerry held a lead among young voters, single voters and voters in the eastern and western United States.

Bush had advantages with married voters, voters aged 30 to 49, households with veterans or someone serving in the military, and in the South.

The two were tied among voters more than 50 years old, and in the central and Great Lakes region, site of key swing states like Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota.

The poll found 52 percent of voters had a negative view of Bush's job performance and 50 percent believed he should not be re-elected. That compared to 47 percent with a positive view and 44 percent who wanted Bush re-elected.

But Bush had a more solid grip on his base of support, earning the backing of 90 percent of Republicans. Kerry had the support of 76 percent of Democrats, but led among independents 45-40 percent.

The poll found independent candidate Ralph Nader, blamed by some Democrats for drawing enough votes from Democrat Al Gore to cost him the election in 2000, earning only 1.8 percent of the vote.
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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 19:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

My prediction is that Kerry will probably get more popular votes, but its looking likely that Bush will win the electoral college (see: http://www.gallup.com/election2004/showdown/) still.
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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 19:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pankrat wrote:
I eat dirt with spoon


I like your source's web address " NEWS.MYWAY.COM "


Laughing (== look only one smily ...just for you compunazi, since you do take yoru job seriously. *cough*job*cough*
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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 20:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, who ever heard of Zogby or Reuters? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 20:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buckshot wrote:
Pankrat wrote:
I eat dirt with spoon


I like your source's web address " NEWS.MYWAY.COM "


Laughing (== look only one smily ...just for you compunazi, since you do take yoru job seriously. *cough*job*cough*


Instead of actually responding to the content Pankrat posted, you replace what he says with 'I eat dirt with spoon'. Why do you even bother posting?
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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 20:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

quotison wrote:
Instead of actually responding to the content Pankrat posted, you replace what he says with 'I eat dirt with spoon'. Why do you even bother posting?


why would/should I ever give a shit what some punk ass kid believes to be truth?

besides, he butted in on a personal post to my GOOD BUDDY Kbarr!

p.s. as stated..polls dont mean shit...so he and I both basically said " blah blah " but the web address was funny.


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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 20:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

"why would/should I ever give a shit what some punk ass kid believes to be truth?"

Well I didn't say it was true, the Reuters reporter did. I suppose you are referring to me as the "punk ass kid" - since you don't know me and I don't know you, I guess you must be projecting.
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PostPosted: 10/07/04 - 20:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you guys take a hint when the majority of the rich people in this country don't vote for Bush even tho he favors them? lol...
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PostPosted: 10/08/04 - 00:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm voting for Ralph Reed.
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PostPosted: 10/08/04 - 01:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's "winning" you annoying illiterate douchebag.
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PostPosted: 10/08/04 - 01:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brael wrote:
It's "winning" you annoying illiterate douchebag.


haha so it is you punk ass wasted youth fucktard!

damn, poor Shitkrat shouldda caught that himself!

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PostPosted: 10/08/04 - 02:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buckshot, your sig is a little too much. =/
Some of us browse from work.
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PostPosted: 10/08/04 - 07:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

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