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sinrakin
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 Posted: 12/22/04 - 12:02 Post subject: dead marine's email - interesting question
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I'm sure everybody has seen this story by now. It's kind of an intriguing question though. Who do you think is right? In one sense, rules and privacy should be inviolable. What if there were things in his email he didn't want his parents to see, even on death? On the other hand, if they inherit his effects, you could say that the email is simply another of his effects that pass to them.
I'm pretty sure if they knew he had a swiss bank account, but didn't know the number, they wouldn't be able to get the money. On the other hand, they'd probably be allowed to go into his apartment.
| Quote: | WIXOM, Mich. Dec 22, 2004 — Offers of help have been pouring in for a Michigan man who is trying to persuade online giant Yahoo! to allow him access to the e-mail account of his son, a Marine killed in Iraq.
From lawyers to computer-code crackers, people across the nation have come forward wanting to help the family of 20-year-old Justin M. Ellsworth, who was killed last month during a foot patrol in Iraq.
"Oh, my God. It's been incredible," said John Ellsworth, Justin's father. "It's an overwhelming response. … Things are really moving. I'm very encouraged by it all, but I still have my reservations."
Yahoo! is standing by its policy of protecting the privacy of its e-mail subscribers, spokeswoman Karen Mahon said.
One man started an online petition Tuesday to pressure Yahoo! to allow access to the account. Lawyers have offered free legal services and other people have offered money to help the family pay costs they might incur. Two computer forensic examiners have offered to crack the mystery of the e-mail password for free.
The policy of Yahoo! is to erase the entire account after it has been idle for 90 days. It's not known when Ellsworth last used the account. He died Nov. 3, meaning the account would be erased by Feb. 1. |
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Confused
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 12:15 Post subject:
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Traitor! Tax cheat!
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 13:12 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
intellect cheat
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sinrakin
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 13:16 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
I think it's kind of sweet. It's like in high school, when some of the girls would pretend to be dumb so boys would like them more. Confused isn't really that stupid, but he pretends he is so Kbarr will like him.
He'll probably grow out of it, but the tender awkwardness of it is strangely touching.
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 13:17 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
I was wrong.
Desaitar is only the second dumbest m**********r to post here...YOU are THE dumbest poster on RP hands down.
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 13:22 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
I think it's kind of sweet. It's like in high school, when some of the girls would pretend to be dumb so boys would like them more. Confused isn't really that stupid, but he pretends he is so Kbarr will like him.
He'll probably grow out of it, but the tender awkwardness of it is strangely touching. |
Hmm you might be right but he sure SEEMS that moronic.
Maybe your're right and he just wants Kbarr to notice him...
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 13:25 Post subject:
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yahoo! can choke on some chum.
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Confused
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 13:34 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
I think it's kind of sweet. It's like in high school, when some of the girls would pretend to be dumb so boys would like them more. Confused isn't really that stupid, but he pretends he is so Kbarr will like him.
He'll probably grow out of it, but the tender awkwardness of it is strangely touching. |
Have you been to the mall lately? Who do you think trims their hedges? Traitor! Tax Cheat!
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sinrakin
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 13:47 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
I think it's kind of sweet. It's like in high school, when some of the girls would pretend to be dumb so boys would like them more. Confused isn't really that stupid, but he pretends he is so Kbarr will like him.
He'll probably grow out of it, but the tender awkwardness of it is strangely touching. |
Have you been to the mall lately? Who do you think trims their hedges? Traitor! Tax Cheat! |
I feel bad now. You've given me this wonderful gift for the Christmas season, and I didn't get you anything.
But truly, watching you betray every principle you've ever espoused is just the bestest Christmas gift ever!
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 13:50 Post subject:
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santa claus will die this christmas.(we've got propane)
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Confused
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 13:56 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
I think it's kind of sweet. It's like in high school, when some of the girls would pretend to be dumb so boys would like them more. Confused isn't really that stupid, but he pretends he is so Kbarr will like him.
He'll probably grow out of it, but the tender awkwardness of it is strangely touching. |
Have you been to the mall lately? Who do you think trims their hedges? Traitor! Tax Cheat! |
I feel bad now. You've given me this wonderful gift for the Christmas season, and I didn't get you anything.
But truly, watching you betray every principle you've ever espoused is just the bestest Christmas gift ever! |
Do you live in a house? Traitor! Tax cheat!
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lauren000
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 14:13 Post subject:
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If the emails were not intended to be sent to the family, then they have no right to see it. If he wanted to send a letter to his family upon his death he should have hand written it or told a friend it is stored on his email account or whatever.
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Ciladar
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 14:23 Post subject:
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santa claus will die this christmas.(we've got propane) |
that made me randomly laugh
/golf clap
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sinrakin
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 14:25 Post subject:
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Looks like Santa's going to get his chestnuts roasted over an open fire.
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kbarr
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 16:34 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
I think it's kind of sweet. It's like in high school, when some of the girls would pretend to be dumb so boys would like them more. Confused isn't really that stupid, but he pretends he is so Kbarr will like him.
He'll probably grow out of it, but the tender awkwardness of it is strangely touching. |
LOOKIE!
Its the hick trying to goof on me. So hick, you liberal scumbag! Hows the wife? She still chafing after the soap mixup at the kitchen sink? Never use dish soap on the poon, very sensitive tissues down there.
Anyway, I never asked you. The day Bush was crowned king for another FOUR YEARS!...
Did you cry?
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kbarr
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 16:36 Post subject:
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| lauren000 wrote: | | If the emails were not intended to be sent to the family, then they have no right to see it. If he wanted to send a letter to his family upon his death he should have hand written it or told a friend it is stored on his email account or whatever. |
I wonder, is it still a male homosexual or a eunuch?
Is it post op or pre op?
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lauren000
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 18:39 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | lauren000 wrote: | | If the emails were not intended to be sent to the family, then they have no right to see it. If he wanted to send a letter to his family upon his death he should have hand written it or told a friend it is stored on his email account or whatever. |
I wonder, is it still a male homosexual or a eunuch?
Is it post op or pre op? |
shows how little you know
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Paco
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 18:42 Post subject:
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| lauren000 wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | lauren000 wrote: | | If the emails were not intended to be sent to the family, then they have no right to see it. If he wanted to send a letter to his family upon his death he should have hand written it or told a friend it is stored on his email account or whatever. |
I wonder, is it still a male homosexual or a eunuch?
Is it post op or pre op? |
shows how little you know |
HOLY f****n DOG SHIT! YOU DARE COMMENT ON KNOWLEDGE?!
You, of all moronic people...king of the idiots, dares!?! HAHHAHAHAHAHH x100
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kbarr
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 19:20 Post subject:
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| lauren000 wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | lauren000 wrote: | | If the emails were not intended to be sent to the family, then they have no right to see it. If he wanted to send a letter to his family upon his death he should have hand written it or told a friend it is stored on his email account or whatever. |
I wonder, is it still a male homosexual or a eunuch?
Is it post op or pre op? |
shows how little you know |
Only you can answer this question. But you have refused. I asked many time, you ignore. This solidifies in my mind what a scumbag you are. What a freak you are.
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kbarr
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 19:21 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
I think it's kind of sweet. It's like in high school, when some of the girls would pretend to be dumb so boys would like them more. Confused isn't really that stupid, but he pretends he is so Kbarr will like him.
He'll probably grow out of it, but the tender awkwardness of it is strangely touching. |
LOOKIE!
Its the hick trying to goof on me. So hick, you liberal scumbag! Hows the wife? She still chafing after the soap mixup at the kitchen sink? Never use dish soap on the poon, very sensitive tissues down there.
Anyway, I never asked you. The day Bush was crowned king for another FOUR YEARS!...
Did you cry? |
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Nahualli
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 19:29 Post subject: Re: dead marine's email - interesting question
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| sinrakin wrote: | | I'm sure everybody has seen this story by now. It's kind of an intriguing question though. Who do you think is right? In one sense, rules and privacy should be inviolable. What if there were things in his email he didn't want his parents to see, even on death? On the other hand, if they inherit his effects, you could say that the email is simply another of his effects that pass to them. |
That's not true... if he had any secured assets like a safe deposit box, no one can get to it. If he wanted them to have access to his email he would have written it somewhere or told someone about it.
Why does the father want to see his email, anyways? What's he looking for?
Your analogy about the Swiss bank is correct, they don't have the key to the account (the password) in other words, they don't belong in there. Yahoo accounts aren't terribly hard to break into anyways, if it was a legit email address, the birthday and secret question info would have been more or less predictable or guessable with his whole family present.
-Nah-
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Nahualli
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Posted: 12/22/04 - 19:35 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Traitor! Tax cheat! |
I think it's kind of sweet. It's like in high school, when some of the girls would pretend to be dumb so boys would like them more. Confused isn't really that stupid, but he pretends he is so Kbarr will like him.
He'll probably grow out of it, but the tender awkwardness of it is strangely touching. |
Have you been to the mall lately? Who do you think trims their hedges? Traitor! Tax Cheat! |
I feel bad now. You've given me this wonderful gift for the Christmas season, and I didn't get you anything.
But truly, watching you betray every principle you've ever espoused is just the bestest Christmas gift ever! |
Do you live in a house? Traitor! Tax cheat! |
How was the premarital ****?
-Nah-
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