|
|
| Author |
Message |
Hobbet
Sir Postalot
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 1345
|
 Posted: 11/19/03 - 16:12 Post subject: computer question kind of
|
|
|
|
My friend at school today was talking about this program he found that allows you to see what other people are saying to other people via Instant Message. Is he lying? If not, Anyone know what it is? If so, where can I get? How do I work it? Give me the works please.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
 |
Finigan
RealPoor Guru
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 3817
|
|
Posted: 11/19/03 - 16:24 Post subject:
|
|
|
|
I was gonna help Hobbet out... but then I got high.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Hobbet
Sir Postalot
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 1345
|
|
Posted: 11/19/03 - 16:26 Post subject:
|
|
|
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Yabden
RealPoor Guru
Joined: 13 Oct 2002
Posts: 2485
Location: Ohio
|
|
Posted: 11/19/03 - 17:23 Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Were you gonna eat his p***y too, but then you got high?
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Spitulski
RealPoor Guru
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 4344
Location: Washington
|
|
Posted: 11/19/03 - 17:25 Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Naw, I was already eating it by the time he arrived, so he went and got high.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Occulis
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 13293
Location: Moral Relativity Central
|
|
Posted: 11/19/03 - 17:44 Post subject:
|
|
|
|
google
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
r00typooh
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 5178
Location: Miami, FL
|
|
Posted: 11/19/03 - 22:04 Post subject:
|
|
|
hobbet,
i'm sure there is a program like that, all it'd require is simple packet sniffing i believe. the issue is, it's really detectable if the person is running like a firewall that will report this kinda activity to them.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
compusmack
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 15 Oct 2002
Posts: 6354
|
|
Posted: 11/20/03 - 10:19 Post subject: Re: computer question kind of
|
|
|
| Hobbet wrote: | | My friend at school today was talking about this program he found that allows you to see what other people are saying to other people via Instant Message. Is he lying? If not, Anyone know what it is? If so, where can I get? How do I work it? Give me the works please. |
Maybe it's a trojan he's using to spy?
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
kemble
RealPoor Sensei
Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Posts: 1912
Location: MI
|
|
Posted: 11/20/03 - 10:45 Post subject:
|
|
|
There are such programs.... And no, your firewall doesn't pick it up. Packet sniffers put a network card into promiscuous mode. It doesnt transmit shit, it just reads packets its not supposed to.. Like showeq. You can search your network for NICs in promiscuous mode, but that doesn't mean they are doing anything malicious.
You also have Man in the middle attacks, where your computer (x) thinks its talking to server (z) but, in fact, its really relaying all its traffic through hacker (y) who traps all the info he wants and passes the legit traffic to server (z) and computer (x) is none the wiser...
However, in all likelyhood, whats probably happening is the person installs a trojan onto someone's computer that monitors everything they are doing remotely.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
compusmack
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 15 Oct 2002
Posts: 6354
|
|
Posted: 11/20/03 - 11:18 Post subject:
|
|
|
| kemble wrote: | There are such programs.... And no, your firewall doesn't pick it up. Packet sniffers put a network card into promiscuous mode. It doesnt transmit shit, it just reads packets its not supposed to.. Like showeq. You can search your network for NICs in promiscuous mode, but that doesn't mean they are doing anything malicious.
You also have Man in the middle attacks, where your computer (x) thinks its talking to server (z) but, in fact, its really relaying all its traffic through hacker (y) who traps all the info he wants and passes the legit traffic to server (z) and computer (x) is none the wiser...
However, in all likelyhood, whats probably happening is the person installs a trojan onto someone's computer that monitors everything they are doing remotely. |
I could be wrong, but i thought they used encryption? With encryption sniffing does jack shit for you (unless you hack/crack it).
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
r00typooh
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 5178
Location: Miami, FL
|
|
Posted: 11/20/03 - 20:20 Post subject:
|
|
|
| kemble wrote: | | There are such programs.... And no, your firewall doesn't pick it up. Packet sniffers put a network card into promiscuous mode. It doesnt transmit shit, it just reads packets its not supposed to.. Like showeq. You can search your network for NICs in promiscuous mode, but that doesn't mean they are doing anything malicious. |
i was always under the impression that packetsniffers were really easy to pick up on, but *shrug*
also, the only time IM messages are encrypted is like, when you set it up to encrypt hte messages..
in AIM you have to download an encryption add-on and both parties need to have it. ICQ has it built in i think, and i dunno about MSN and Y!
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Occulis
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 13293
Location: Moral Relativity Central
|
|
Posted: 11/20/03 - 20:44 Post subject:
|
|
|
|
None of that shit is encrypted. ICQ maybe, but no one uses it except carina_2392_393 (ICQ #92384023984208) who wants you to watch her daddy f**k her tight virgin russian ass on her webcam.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
r00typooh
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 5178
Location: Miami, FL
|
|
Posted: 11/20/03 - 20:52 Post subject:
|
|
|
|
if you use trillian, you can encrypt with any other trillian user
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
kemble
RealPoor Sensei
Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Posts: 1912
Location: MI
|
|
Posted: 11/21/03 - 15:44 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Quote: | I could be wrong, but i thought they used encryption? With encryption sniffing does jack shit for you (unless you hack/crack it).
|
For a straight packet sniffing scenario this would be a problem. AIM doesnt use encryption by default, but it is available...
For a MitM attack, even if the traffic is SSL encrypted, you still get the data clear text because the hacker]e exchanges certs with the hacker, who sees everything in cleartext as it passes through his machine, and then re-encrypts for transmission to the original intended recipient... automatically.
Yeah rootus, packetsniffers are easy to find... Most people don't look for them tho, and you have no idea what they are sniffing for.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
