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Sold
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 Posted: 09/12/04 - 01:34 Post subject: bye f*****s
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Im done now
mostly....
are you watching? can you count ?
http://www.uwsa.com/uwsa-usdebt.html
did you know that intrest recieved is counted as 'capital gain' how are capital gains taxed? Are they taxed the same as 'income tax' ? is fica assessed to a capital gain? Who would live purely off of capital gains? Who do you think is being payed the intrest on this national debt? by and large.
are you thinking?
http://costofwar.com/
are you watching? Do you really give a shit if Bush was Awol or Kerry tanked a medal? What is important to you? What are real election issues?
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 04:10 Post subject:
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Bush is winning.
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Tura
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 12:07 Post subject:
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You're a dumb shit you know that?
I grew up in Charleston, SC and you can ask either Buntz, me or anyone from the low country about Goose Creek high and they will tell you its one of the most dangerous high schools on the east coast. I remember Berkley high and goose creek or "goose crack" high on the news every week about a drug bust or shooting. So here's an idea: Take your worthless propaganda and move to the middle of the atlantic ocean you piece of shit. Its people like you that make this country lesser than it could be.
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Sold
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 14:35 Post subject:
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You're a dumb shit you know that?
I grew up in Charleston, SC and you can ask either Buntz, me or anyone from the low country about Goose Creek high and they will tell you its one of the most dangerous high schools on the east coast. I remember Berkley high and goose creek or "goose crack" high on the news every week about a drug bust or shooting. So here's an idea: Take your worthless propaganda and move to the middle of the atlantic ocean you piece of shit. Its people like you that make this country lesser than it could be. |
perhaps it as dangerous as you say, but was that the way to deal with it?
was -every- student there a danger?
get real and grow up.
dumb kid
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: Moral Relativity Central
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 15:11 Post subject:
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| Sold wrote: | perhaps it as dangerous as you say, but was that the way to deal with it?
was -every- student there a danger?
get real and grow up.
dumb kid |
In a situation of domestic violence, say in a family of 4 children and two adults, only 1/6th of the population of a household needs to be violent in order to end your life. Show up to serve papers and get a shank in the kidney.
Why do 100% of the members of a violent, or suspected violent, group need to be vicious to approach them with caution? They don't. You're just doing your normal thing: skewing arguments and bikeshedding (thx frashiii for the word).
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Dyers
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 15:12 Post subject:
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In a violent school that is known for gun toting kids. Bet your ass "every" child there is potentially dangerous. There aren't any stamps on their foreheads stating if they are or are not.
You need to grow up there son and pull your head out of the sand.
I suppose you would want officers to go in unarmed and their hands tied behind there backs asking, "which one of you has a gun and drugs?" hahaha
Hate to see the children you would raise. Spare the rod?
Fool.
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 15:48 Post subject:
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| Sold wrote: | | Tura wrote: |
You're a dumb shit you know that?
I grew up in Charleston, SC and you can ask either Buntz, me or anyone from the low country about Goose Creek high and they will tell you its one of the most dangerous high schools on the east coast. I remember Berkley high and goose creek or "goose crack" high on the news every week about a drug bust or shooting. So here's an idea: Take your worthless propaganda and move to the middle of the atlantic ocean you piece of shit. Its people like you that make this country lesser than it could be. |
perhaps it as dangerous as you say, but was that the way to deal with it?
was -every- student there a danger?
get real and grow up.
dumb kid |
Haha, you really are a dumb f****r:)
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Ashley
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 18:30 Post subject: Re: bye f*****s
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| Sold wrote: | Im done now
mostly....
are you watching? can you count ?
http://www.uwsa.com/uwsa-usdebt.html
did you know that intrest recieved is counted as 'capital gain' how are capital gains taxed? Are they taxed the same as 'income tax' ? is fica assessed to a capital gain? Who would live purely off of capital gains? Who do you think is being payed the intrest on this national debt? by and large.
are you thinking?
http://costofwar.com/
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yes, the national debt is enormous, and it will be my generation paying for it- but i would hardly say it's Bush's fault. By no means is he doing anything to help it (i still dont understand how someone can actually think tax breaks are a good idea when we're spending billions of dollars on a war- one or the other is ok, but both at the same time just doesnt make sense)- He's just doing what every president (and congress) before him (other than clinton) has done. Its been going on for years and years, which is why its so huge- and its not only Republicans- democrats are guilty of seriously overspending just as badly, the only difference is that they tend to tax more when they do so it doesnt *look* as bad.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 18:32 Post subject: Re: bye f*****s
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| hunnybunny wrote: | | Sold wrote: | Im done now
mostly....
are you watching? can you count ?
http://www.uwsa.com/uwsa-usdebt.html
did you know that intrest recieved is counted as 'capital gain' how are capital gains taxed? Are they taxed the same as 'income tax' ? is fica assessed to a capital gain? Who would live purely off of capital gains? Who do you think is being payed the intrest on this national debt? by and large.
are you thinking?
http://costofwar.com/
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yes, the national debt is enormous, and it will be my generation paying for it- but i would hardly say it's Bush's fault. By no means is he doing anything to help it (i still dont understand how someone can actually think tax breaks are a good idea when we're spending billions of dollars on a war- one or the other is ok, but both at the same time just doesnt make sense)- He's just doing what every president (and congress) before him (other than clinton) has done. Its been going on for years and years, which is why its so huge- and its not only Republicans- democrats are guilty of seriously overspending just as badly, the only difference is that they tend to tax more when they do so it doesnt *look* as bad. |
Well, less taxes and people usually buy more. Just have to balance it I guess heh.
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Conqueso
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 23:01 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | (I still dont understand how someone can actually think tax breaks are a good idea when we're spending billions of dollars on a war- one or the other is ok, but both at the same time just doesnt make sense)- He's just doing what every president (and congress) before him (other than clinton) has done. |
The tax breaks are typical "Reaganomics". The economy was really bad during the Carter adminstration and did a 180 under Reagan. The premise is to keep more cash in the pockets of people so that more things are bought, more capital investments are made, etc. It is designed to spark the economy but it takes awhile for it to work as with any economic situation (ie it takes a while for a recession to happen and a while to come out).
Wars from a business standpoint are a bit strange. I am not from a business background but can provide some observations. Wars seem to spur the economy due to more demand for materials. A classic example is what happened after WWII. That is just the trend I have seen. I am not about to open up a can of worms and say people do or do not conduct wars in order to spur the economy. The reasons for war are not typically that simple.
| Quote: | | Its been going on for years and years, which is why its so huge- and its not only Republicans- democrats are guilty of seriously overspending just as badly, the only difference is that they tend to tax more when they do so it doesnt *look* as bad. |
I am glad you recognize that there democrats and republicans in Congress (50/50 right now). I kind of laugh listening to the rhetoric regarding the gun law. The Senate wants to pass it again but it is stalled in the House. Neither democrats or republicans in the House will take a stand on it due to the NRA (elections are coming up for the House). Kerry has only addressed it (very carefully I might add) due to trying to find an advantage. Just as an FYI, there were two wars during the Clinton adminstration. One was Bosnia and the other was Somolia. I believe Clinton also sent troops to Haiti but that was a very small number.
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Merican
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Posted: 09/12/04 - 23:09 Post subject:
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Sold, your the dumb kid, and you need to grow up.
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Tura
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Posted: 09/13/04 - 13:06 Post subject:
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| Sold wrote: | | Tura wrote: |
You're a dumb shit you know that?
I grew up in Charleston, SC and you can ask either Buntz, me or anyone from the low country about Goose Creek high and they will tell you its one of the most dangerous high schools on the east coast. I remember Berkley high and goose creek or "goose crack" high on the news every week about a drug bust or shooting. So here's an idea: Take your worthless propaganda and move to the middle of the atlantic ocean you piece of shit. Its people like you that make this country lesser than it could be. |
perhaps it as dangerous as you say, but was that the way to deal with it?
was -every- student there a danger?
get real and grow up.
dumb kid |
As I stated before, I 'grew up' in Charleston and that would make me a'grown up' now. I believe theres 2 things that make a man a man. 1: Pay your own bills and support your own self while living out the life you want. 2: Generating respect from others by the actions you portray on a day-to-day basis. Now I can't speak for you on the first, but believe me, you are lacking on the latter part. No one here respects you or your opinions becuase they hold no water. I mean if the best you can do is post some mildly amusing .jpg's and run your mouth about shit you don't know then honestly....why post? So do me a favor and stop while you're behind.
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Ashley
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Posted: 09/13/04 - 22:17 Post subject:
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| Conqueso wrote: | | Quote: | | (I still dont understand how someone can actually think tax breaks are a good idea when we're spending billions of dollars on a war- one or the other is ok, but both at the same time just doesnt make sense)- He's just doing what every president (and congress) before him (other than clinton) has done. |
The tax breaks are typical "Reaganomics". The economy was really bad during the Carter adminstration and did a 180 under Reagan. The premise is to keep more cash in the pockets of people so that more things are bought, more capital investments are made, etc. It is designed to spark the economy but it takes awhile for it to work as with any economic situation (ie it takes a while for a recession to happen and a while to come out).
Wars from a business standpoint are a bit strange. I am not from a business background but can provide some observations. Wars seem to spur the economy due to more demand for materials. A classic example is what happened after WWII. That is just the trend I have seen. I am not about to open up a can of worms and say people do or do not conduct wars in order to spur the economy. The reasons for war are not typically that simple.
| Quote: | | Its been going on for years and years, which is why its so huge- and its not only Republicans- democrats are guilty of seriously overspending just as badly, the only difference is that they tend to tax more when they do so it doesnt *look* as bad. |
I am glad you recognize that there democrats and republicans in Congress (50/50 right now). I kind of laugh listening to the rhetoric regarding the gun law. The Senate wants to pass it again but it is stalled in the House. Neither democrats or republicans in the House will take a stand on it due to the NRA (elections are coming up for the House). Kerry has only addressed it (very carefully I might add) due to trying to find an advantage. Just as an FYI, there were two wars during the Clinton adminstration. One was Bosnia and the other was Somolia. I believe Clinton also sent troops to Haiti but that was a very small number. |
i also dont come from a business background so i wouldnt know, that is interesting to think about, but at the same time different wars would have to be put into different categories- for example, in WWII the entire country was involved, everyone did *something* to further the war effort, whereas in the 1st gulf war (or now the war in Iraq) there is no need for the entire country to start rationing in order to help the troops- plus the amounts of money are astronomical, i would be curious to know if the war alone evened out or boosted the economy with the billions being spent.
Spending-wise the dems are just as bad as the Reps for the most part. Those who are actually looking to work on the budget are usually trying to do a by-partisan effort and are largely ignored (McCain has tried this to no avail a few times). It isnt an immediate problem, which is why it seems to only gets worse every term- its one of those solvable issues that is very much overshadowed by the more idealistic issues such as gay marriage and abortion in the campaigns. Its strange how most of the problems of our country that could be solved are largely ignored while issues that are at a political standstill are the ones highlighted.
As far as Clinton going to war, you are absolutely right- however, they were more of small-scale wars that didnt require a huge commitment. Also i would compare the Bosnian situation to Sudan where it is a war that you cant really argue against (though people ignore it), and i think there should have been an additional war in Rwanda during Clinton's terms (and he considers it his biggest mistake in office to not send troops there).
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Domination
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Posted: 09/13/04 - 22:21 Post subject:
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ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!
I bet you think hurricane charley, frances and ivan are all perpatrated by bush too? Good ole GW and Jeb in the gulf in a boat going in circles with a big sail!
Just like john kerry all you can do is whine like a spineless b***h. Maybe one day democrats will get a spine again and become a decent party.... I f*****g doubt it tho.
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Conqueso
Luke Warm
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Posted: 09/13/04 - 23:47 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | ... for example, in WWII the entire country was involved, everyone did *something* to further the war effort, whereas in the 1st gulf war (or now the war in Iraq) there is no need for the entire country to start rationing in order to help the troops |
Yea I think wars now-a-days would only help future orders for the defense industries and raw materials (steel, oil, etc). It's hard to say since defense draws on a lot of sectors, but it wont have as much of an impact as WWII had.
| Quote: | | Spending-wise the dems are just as bad as the Reps for the most part. Those who are actually looking to work on the budget are usually trying to do a by-partisan effort and are largely ignored (McCain has tried this to no avail a few times). It isnt an immediate problem, which is why it seems to only gets worse every term- its one of those solvable issues that is very much overshadowed by the more idealistic issues such as gay marriage and abortion in the campaigns... |
There's a book that came out by a Republican moderate called "Rome did not Burn in a Day". It covers this topic. There's a lot of moderate republicans that are "ticked off" at the amount of spending going on. Republicans are typically "less government" and "less spending" (except for defense) so it will be interesting to watch what happens in the next few years. As for the ideology issues, the democrats are the same way. They are pro-abortion and pro gay issues. It is just a different flip of the coin and you are just now seeing the other side of the coin. You have probably become more familiar seeing the liberal side due to the Clinton adminstration. You saw some of the conservative side come up with Reagan. The viewpoints on the issues also vary within each party (ie Chaney and Log Cabin Republicans are pro gay issues).
| Quote: | | ... and i think there should have been an additional war in Rwanda during Clinton's terms (and he considers it his biggest mistake in office to not send troops there). |
Yea I believe what happened in Somalia influenced his decision with Ruwanda. The UN had too much control in Somalia and that is one of the major things that made that war a mess. Imo, Clinton was better at charismatic domestic issues rather than foreign policy. I think Bush Senior was excellent in foreign policy but was weaker in domestic issues. Reagan was excellent with both. Carter was good in foreign policy but was weak on domestic.
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Tinladar
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Posted: 09/13/04 - 23:53 Post subject: Re: bye f*****s
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| Sold wrote: | Im done now
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hahahahahaha.. go f**k yourself, i saw that on the local news.. that's like.. 30 miles from me..
and guess what as an recent ex-highschool student i can say this.. they need a shitload more drug raids... i knew people who brought drugs to school nearly every day..
you complain about the guns in kids' faces, well guess what.. The officers *never* pointed the gun at a student.. nope.. not once
they *DREW* their weapons as was standard procedure, they did not *AIM* their weapons at anyone..
I saw some of the people on the news.. and er.. yeah.. the only reason they're complaining... is cause they would've brought weed (or another substance) to school any other day
how do i know? i've seen them smoking out =p
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