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Booker
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Silvermouse
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 Posted: 05/23/03 - 20:49 Post subject:
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I'm sorry to hear that, Booker. Were there any outward signs that he was depressed?
You can't stop someone who truly wishes to destroy themself. Might want to spend some time with your friend. He is probably pretty confused right now, wondering if there was anything he could have done. Even if "I'm sorry about your loss" sounds cliche, it's better than avoiding them altogether. He probably could use someone else to talk to besides his parents =/
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Kbarr
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 21:03 Post subject:
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A very close friend, had a newborn son, owned 2 houses, a 427 sideoiler cobra and soon to be a millionare.
He never outgrew drugs, ended up on crack.
Ate the gun at age 32.
When someone wants to check out, not much you can do.
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Romey
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 21:11 Post subject:
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Thats the way it is today. So much pressure in life, and so many drugs out there that confuses the body one cant figure which route is the good route to take....So the ultimate route out is the best in their mind. 2 friends both found dead in a car out in the middle of a field, both shot themselves in the head with a pistol. Now the crazy part is, 1 shot himself they estimate an hour or so after the first shot himself. To me , thats just the creepyest thing in the world  Being a true friend, i dont think i could watch a buddy bleed to death or shoot himself...then turn and shoot myself knowing what i just seen.
Ron
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Paco
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Joined: 13 Oct 2002
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Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 21:13 Post subject:
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I think about it more than I should prolly.
no real reason either..just do
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Bastard
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 21:15 Post subject:
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We are all gonna meet the end some day, why suffer through shit and torment when it can be over now.
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Occulis
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: Moral Relativity Central
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 21:39 Post subject:
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| b*****d wrote: | | We are all gonna meet the end some day, why suffer through shit and torment when it can be over now. |
I actually believe in reincarnation, or at least a persistance of soul. So... even if I wanted to - I can't off myself. Would just have to re-roll with lower starting stats. (rez FX lastin like 50 yrs instead of 10 mins)
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Paden
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Joined: 23 Oct 2002
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 21:44 Post subject:
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some people act like they want to kill there self and end up cutting them self
thats mostly a attention cry
the ones who really wanna kill their self always never tell anyone
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WheresNWS
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 21:51 Post subject:
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| b*****d wrote: | | We are all gonna meet the end some day, why suffer through shit and torment when it can be over now. |
What the hell are you talking about? Life is fun.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 22:28 Post subject:
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| Paden wrote: | some people act like they want to kill there self and end up cutting them self
thats mostly a attention cry
the ones who really wanna kill their self always never tell anyone |
You got it right, Paden.
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Maelstrom
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: Montréal
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 22:41 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | A very close friend, had a newborn son, owned 2 houses, a 427 sideoiler cobra and soon to be a millionare.
He never outgrew drugs, ended up on crack.
Ate the gun at age 32.
When someone wants to check out, not much you can do. |
You would think that a good life with mostly all you want would make you happy...
my dad's best friend that he worked with for 37 years had cheated on his very sick wife...9 years he didnt had ****..had to take car eof her like a child...he meet a woman..had **** with her...he felt so bad about it that they found him in his basement with the head half exploded ...he ate a shotgun.
14 and 22 years old sons.
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Majy
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Posted: 05/23/03 - 23:23 Post subject:
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Really sorry to hear that Booker... This happened to me a little bit ago except was my best friends best friend from home, he was I think 17 or 18... really sad. I didn't even know what I could do for her, she was a mess. I usually use humor as a way to escape serious situations but I knew I couldn't really do that so it was hard... I just gave her as much as I could... she ended up telling me that I had really helped her through it at the time and that I was "amazing" about it... made me feel good, I think the best thing you can do is just be there for your friend, offer to do anything you can for them, and just let time pass.
Suicide, in my opinion, is one of the most selfish acts anyone could commit... I've thought about it on one too many occasions, but I do realize that there are still people that would care and that I'd be hurting if I did... I think when people actually go ahead and do it they really don't believe that anyone would care that they're gone, but no matter what you think there's always someone who cares. Taking your life might solve your problems, but it puts a whole shitload more on a lot of other peoples shoulders... You shoulda seen my friend after this kid hung himself... she was actually blaming herself... Apparently he had been calling her for the past few weeks and she never got to calling him back because she was pledging a sorority (time consuming)... she totally was blaming herself, thinking maybe if she had just called him back he wouldn't have done it... I couldn't even believe she would do that to herself... I saw how much it hurt her, and I actually began to get angry at this kid... like imagine how his parents and brother felt...
I dunno, I'm sorry Booker... try just as much as you can to go out of your way to help your friend out, and don't let him get down on himself...
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Akronn
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Posted: 05/24/03 - 00:22 Post subject:
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Wow that's truly a shame 
The obit kinda gives away his reason, it seems, unless I'm reading into it too much.
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Aluaeia
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Posted: 05/24/03 - 01:41 Post subject:
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| b*****d wrote: | | We are all gonna meet the end some day, why suffer through shit and torment when it can be over now. |
Why are you still alive then?
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atarom
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: 375th st. Y
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Posted: 05/24/03 - 04:41 Post subject:
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yeah good friend of mine throughout high school recently offed himself. brilliant actor. amazing wit. great guy. did a lot of drugs.
it's a strange thing.
when i heard about it i didnt feel like i was actually alive. it was a dream.
situations like these are why they invented the word "surreal".
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compusmack
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Posted: 05/24/03 - 11:52 Post subject:
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Wow that's young..
I blame the parents... not involved enough to recognize the problem.
Nobody should ever get to the point of suicide at that age.
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Grummpy
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Posted: 05/24/03 - 13:49 Post subject:
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This saddens me, Its hard to understand what causes a person to wilter instead of grow when tough times approach.
It seems to me Drugs are the number one similarity in most suicides.
these people seem to be always searching for something they allready have but cant seem to see, they turn to Drugs to "find" it, then eventually there desperation in searching consumes them to the point that they need it to "End".
these people dont want simpathy, or help they usually never tell anyone either and act pretty happy most of the time then one day, Bang.
It kinda reminds me of The Wizzard of Oz.
most people see this movie as a childs movie or a moral of "Theres no place like home" when acually its has one of the best lessons in life that a movie could offer.
let me explain,
see Dorathy realises in her teenage years that life is full of people telling you what to do(grandma,uncles ect.) , and others that are down right nasty or evil to you.(bike lady/witch)
when the pressure gets to great she decides that she needs to "get away" from the real life pressures and people who bring her down. so she runs away.
When she leaves she suddenly finds that theres forces out in the world that shes not ready to meet alone(tornado), so she heads back home to the "safe" place. when she gets there its to late and now has to deal with it on her own.(most kids learn there lesson this way in life)
Now boom she gets knocked out, she wakes up in this beautiful land of her dreams with bright colors and steaming with life. the place she wanted to be at.
she sould be happy right?
well no, see what she learns here is that Even in this great happy place, a place that has all she could ever want, there still is gonna be strange unhappy cituations/encounters(the monkey people and living trees), people who try to stop you from acheving your goals(wicked witch), and people who lie and are not who they seem(the Great and powerful Oz).
the one thing that she learned was that the most important and happy thing in life is your family and friends you meet along the way.
she meets the scarecrow hes kinda goofy but hes a nice guy, then she finds hes searching for something also.(brain)
then later she meets the tin man and hes kinda rugged and strong and searching for something to.(heart)
eventually she meets a big strong lion and yet again, hes missing something also. (courage)
(Sounds fimilar huh?)
they all help eachother to realise that at some point everyone is searching for something they already had but just dont see.
and in the end Dorathy decides that even though she loves her new friends and her new land that maybe life isnt as bad back home as she persieved and the people back home really do care for her.
when she gets back home she opens her eyes to see a bit of her friends in her family, and a new outlook on life.
to bad Judy Garland didnt open her eyes to what the Movie was trying to put across and Ended her life in 1969
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sinrakin
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Posted: 05/24/03 - 13:57 Post subject:
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I don't get killing yourself, unless you're actually mentally unbalanced maybe. It's the sort of thing you can always do, unless you're in prison I guess. And it's the last thing you get to try. So why wouldn't you try everything else first? Go to another city, be a bum, spend all your money, go to another country, join the peace corps or the french foreign legion if either of them still exist. But I'd totally scrap my life and remake it from zero at least a couple of times before I killed myself - it's not like you can't always kill yourself whenever you want.
I am sorry to hear about the guy that did it though. It's too bad that someone would have to feel that desperate.
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Rennol
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Location: Charleston, IL
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Posted: 05/24/03 - 16:46 Post subject:
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People always lookin' for someone to blame, probably nobody is to blame.
If I were to blow my head off it wouldn't be anyone's fault but mine, I view all suicides like that.
I've thought about it, but then I contemplate my own mortality on a daily basis, it's a fascinating subject to think about...
WheresNWS is right though, life is fun! Surround yourself with people who care about you and work through your problems. Sometimes that is harder...but the journey is just as important as the destination in life.. in fact, until you go somewhere, you never know where you are going. Enough spacey talk now.
Always sucks to see someone die like that though. Just gotta hope they found peace in the end.
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