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Owyyn
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 21:04 Post subject:
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Desflurane
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 21:12 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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Maybe some of the military peeps on this site can explain this. How can a .50 cal bullet cause bodies to fly around like that? Is 2700 feet per second THAT fast?
This video seems to depict a much larger caliber weapon, or do US sniper rifles really kick this much ass?
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 21:35 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Desflurane wrote: |
Maybe some of the military peeps on this site can explain this. How can a .50 cal bullet cause bodies to fly around like that? Is 2700 feet per second THAT fast?
This video seems to depict a much larger caliber weapon, or do US sniper rifles really kick this much ass? |
Same thought crossed my mind, could be a higher cal, sure looks like it packs a punch. That's just what my friend who sent me the link said it was :P
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Jakanden
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 21:37 Post subject:
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Luturb
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 21:39 Post subject:
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Those aren't humans. Some sort of small animals.
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Xion
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 21:54 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Desflurane wrote: |
Maybe some of the military peeps on this site can explain this. How can a .50 cal bullet cause bodies to fly around like that? Is 2700 feet per second THAT fast?
This video seems to depict a much larger caliber weapon, or do US sniper rifles really kick this much ass? |
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kbarr
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 22:27 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Desflurane wrote: |
Maybe some of the military peeps on this site can explain this. How can a .50 cal bullet cause bodies to fly around like that? Is 2700 feet per second THAT fast?
This video seems to depict a much larger caliber weapon, or do US sniper rifles really kick this much ass? |
They kick that much ass. They, the M2/50cal round was designed to defeat light armored vehicles not take out humans. If these were soldiers in uniform they were shooting at, they wouldn't be using the Barret so openly. Its against the Gen Conven to shoot a human with an M2/50 cal. Too bad the terrorists are not signed on for the GC. LOL
Oh, doc, there is no fixin them wounds...no money to be made!
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Desflurane
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 22:46 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Kbarr wrote: | They kick that much ass. They, the M2/50cal round was designed to defeat light armored vehicles not take out humans. If these were soldiers in uniform they were shooting at, they wouldn't be using the Barret so openly. Its against the Gen Conven to shoot a human with an M2/50 cal. Too bad the terrorists are not signed on for the GC. LOL
Oh, doc, there is no fixin them wounds...no money to be made! |
 There's no money in trauma, period!
Why is it against the GC? I thought the only bullets that were against the rules were ones that maimed, ie shells that intentionally fragment, those needle shaped shells (spirettes or something like that) that changed direction once in the body (so harder to get them out) and the like.
Holy shit, these are some big ass bullets
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kbarr
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 22:48 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Desflurane wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | They kick that much ass. They, the M2/50cal round was designed to defeat light armored vehicles not take out humans. If these were soldiers in uniform they were shooting at, they wouldn't be using the Barret so openly. Its against the Gen Conven to shoot a human with an M2/50 cal. Too bad the terrorists are not signed on for the GC. LOL
Oh, doc, there is no fixin them wounds...no money to be made! |
There's no money in trauma, period!
Why is it against the GC? I thought the only bullets that were against the rules were ones that maimed, ie shells that intentionally fragment, those needle shaped shells (spirettes or something like that) that changed direction once in the body (so harder to get them out) and the like.
Holy shit, these are some big ass bullets
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No idea. I was just taught that if I was shooting at someone with an M2, to aim for a belt, or a helmet, never the person.
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Desflurane
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 22:49 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Desflurane wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | They kick that much ass. They, the M2/50cal round was designed to defeat light armored vehicles not take out humans. If these were soldiers in uniform they were shooting at, they wouldn't be using the Barret so openly. Its against the Gen Conven to shoot a human with an M2/50 cal. Too bad the terrorists are not signed on for the GC. LOL
Oh, doc, there is no fixin them wounds...no money to be made! |
There's no money in trauma, period!
Why is it against the GC? I thought the only bullets that were against the rules were ones that maimed, ie shells that intentionally fragment, those needle shaped shells (spirettes or something like that) that changed direction once in the body (so harder to get them out) and the like.
Holy shit, these are some big ass bullets
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No idea. I was just taught that if I was shooting at someone with an M2, to aim for a belt, or a helmet, never the person.
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Lol, the belt Guess that counts as armor....
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 23:08 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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They are killing Marmots
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 23:19 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Desflurane wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | They kick that much ass. They, the M2/50cal round was designed to defeat light armored vehicles not take out humans. If these were soldiers in uniform they were shooting at, they wouldn't be using the Barret so openly. Its against the Gen Conven to shoot a human with an M2/50 cal. Too bad the terrorists are not signed on for the GC. LOL
Oh, doc, there is no fixin them wounds...no money to be made! |
There's no money in trauma, period!
Why is it against the GC? I thought the only bullets that were against the rules were ones that maimed, ie shells that intentionally fragment, those needle shaped shells (spirettes or something like that) that changed direction once in the body (so harder to get them out) and the like.
Holy shit, these are some big ass bullets
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Fragmenting bullets aren't against the GC..the .223 fired by the M16 is designed to rotate and break apart.
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Gethy
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Posted: 06/18/05 - 00:33 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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They are killing Marmots
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Nice marmot.
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Bait Masterson
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Posted: 06/18/05 - 01:27 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Desflurane wrote: |
Maybe some of the military peeps on this site can explain this. How can a .50 cal bullet cause bodies to fly around like that? Is 2700 feet per second THAT fast?
This video seems to depict a much larger caliber weapon, or do US sniper rifles really kick this much ass? |
They kick that much ass. They, the M2/50cal round was designed to defeat light armored vehicles not take out humans. If these were soldiers in uniform they were shooting at, they wouldn't be using the Barret so openly. Its against the Gen Conven to shoot a human with an M2/50 cal. Too bad the terrorists are not signed on for the GC. LOL
Oh, doc, there is no fixin them wounds...no money to be made!
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The way around that rule is to shoot at thier equipment like thier Helmet or LBE ROFL, but yeah a 50 caliber round will go through walls and engine blocks, the Froce it creates going through your body will turn you inside out.
A few months back someone posted a picture of a guys head splattered and claimed it was a 50 cal, he was wrong I saw the pics from the soldier it originated from and read the story and that was just a 7.62 round that splattered that guys head.
A 50 cal would take is head clean off and probably part of his chest.
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Bait Masterson
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Posted: 06/18/05 - 01:29 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Desflurane wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | They kick that much ass. They, the M2/50cal round was designed to defeat light armored vehicles not take out humans. If these were soldiers in uniform they were shooting at, they wouldn't be using the Barret so openly. Its against the Gen Conven to shoot a human with an M2/50 cal. Too bad the terrorists are not signed on for the GC. LOL
Oh, doc, there is no fixin them wounds...no money to be made! |
There's no money in trauma, period!
Why is it against the GC? I thought the only bullets that were against the rules were ones that maimed, ie shells that intentionally fragment, those needle shaped shells (spirettes or something like that) that changed direction once in the body (so harder to get them out) and the like.
Holy shit, these are some big ass bullets
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Fragmenting bullets aren't against the GC..the .223 fired by the M16 is designed to rotate and break apart. |
Actually maiming is the name of the game, if you can wound a soldier the logic is it takes two soldiers to take him off the field, if you kill him those soldiers are free to continue fighting you.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/18/05 - 03:19 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Bait Masterson wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Desflurane wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | They kick that much ass. They, the M2/50cal round was designed to defeat light armored vehicles not take out humans. If these were soldiers in uniform they were shooting at, they wouldn't be using the Barret so openly. Its against the Gen Conven to shoot a human with an M2/50 cal. Too bad the terrorists are not signed on for the GC. LOL
Oh, doc, there is no fixin them wounds...no money to be made! |
There's no money in trauma, period!
Why is it against the GC? I thought the only bullets that were against the rules were ones that maimed, ie shells that intentionally fragment, those needle shaped shells (spirettes or something like that) that changed direction once in the body (so harder to get them out) and the like.
Holy shit, these are some big ass bullets
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Fragmenting bullets aren't against the GC..the .223 fired by the M16 is designed to rotate and break apart. |
Actually maiming is the name of the game, if you can wound a soldier the logic is it takes two soldiers to take him off the field, if you kill him those soldiers are free to continue fighting you. |
Doesn't work too well in Iraq though..those ragheads don't give a f**k about the guy next to them.
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Desflurane
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Posted: 06/18/05 - 11:44 Post subject: Re: .50 cal destruction, + hilarious mmropg video
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| Bait Masterson wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Desflurane wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | They kick that much ass. They, the M2/50cal round was designed to defeat light armored vehicles not take out humans. If these were soldiers in uniform they were shooting at, they wouldn't be using the Barret so openly. Its against the Gen Conven to shoot a human with an M2/50 cal. Too bad the terrorists are not signed on for the GC. LOL
Oh, doc, there is no fixin them wounds...no money to be made! |
There's no money in trauma, period!
Why is it against the GC? I thought the only bullets that were against the rules were ones that maimed, ie shells that intentionally fragment, those needle shaped shells (spirettes or something like that) that changed direction once in the body (so harder to get them out) and the like.
Holy shit, these are some big ass bullets
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Fragmenting bullets aren't against the GC..the .223 fired by the M16 is designed to rotate and break apart. |
Actually maiming is the name of the game, if you can wound a soldier the logic is it takes two soldiers to take him off the field, if you kill him those soldiers are free to continue fighting you. |
Wounding is the name of the game, but maiming is supposedly something else, according to the Hague Concention (1898 I think). For instance, they banned the use of triangular shaped bayonets, because they made holes "that tended not to close" .. demonstrating that you need to incapacitate, but not create a wound that is harder to repair than required.
Flechettes were the things I was trying to think of. Needle like bullets, they enter the skin and then turn inside the body, creating these complicated paths inside the body mass that is VERY hard to follow for field surgeons. Hollow points, explosive rounds, etc are all banned for warfare use (hollow points OK'd for anti-terrorism, cops, etc).
From what I have read, the M-16 rounds found a loophole, and every other major country followed their lead. The bullet is a full metal jacket (fragmentation rounds are not... as defined by the Hague Convention), but because they tumble end over end once they contact body mass, they break into pieces because of the immense sheer stresses placed on the round. So they are not truly a fragmentation round, but they accomplish the same effect anyway.
Pretty interesting rules.
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