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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 09:06    Post subject: Wow.... Reply with quote

Clinton actually gets +2 points for this in my book:

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20041107-055605-6954r.htm
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 09:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

didn't see that coming.
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 09:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duh. We have plans for almost every potential adversary for this kind of thing.
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 09:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

that makes sense i guess, just never thought about it before.
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 09:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

f**k NK, hehe

we should go liberate NK, but too many crybabies here would start screaming for mommy

too bad the babies don't know how bad it is there right now
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 10:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all for guarded isolationism. Accept imports and exports as normal, but stop sending our troops all over the damn world. Let the starving idiots roll around in their own destitute wastelands.
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 10:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah we can be just like the Alamo, just on a larger scale!
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 10:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frax wrote:
Duh. We have plans for almost every potential adversary for this kind of thing.


ohh yaa... ohh ya... well are you prepared for when the mounties in thier bright red coats (an some with turbans) ride thier horsies over the border... are ya huh huh are ya??



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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 10:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll just put large salt licks near all the likely avenues of mountie attacks, that will stop their horses and they'll have to walk, making them easy targets for our homeless to beg them into the poorhouse long before they reach anywhere important.
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 10:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 11:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frax wrote:
Duh. We have plans for almost every potential adversary for this kind of thing.
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 12:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Occulis wrote:
I'm all for guarded isolationism. Accept imports and exports as normal, but stop sending our troops all over the damn world. Let the starving idiots roll around in their own destitute wastelands.


And they are starving. Also, if you've seen any programs about North Korea, it's really eerie to see their deserted highways and buildings.
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 13:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invading North Korea wouldn't be pretty or productive...
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 13:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvermouse wrote:
Occulis wrote:
I'm all for guarded isolationism. Accept imports and exports as normal, but stop sending our troops all over the damn world. Let the starving idiots roll around in their own destitute wastelands.


And they are starving. Also, if you've seen any programs about North Korea, it's really eerie to see their deserted highways and buildings.


In the most recent National Geographic they have a map of the world at night, one of the incredibly interesting points on the map is the stark difference between South Korean and North Korea when viewed from space. South Korea is almost fully illuminated, and North Korea has about 3 spots of light... in total.
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PostPosted: 11/08/04 - 15:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

a. that photo is my desktop. =) The Nile however is my favorite region to look at.

b. Are you people serious that you didn't consider this was on the planning table? Hell, somewhere in a cabinet somewhere in the pentagon I guarantee you we have contingency plans for not only invading canada but nuking it into oblivion should the need arise. Why? Because general staffs plan and do their best to plany for any eventuality, no matter how remote because you just never know. This way of thinking is over a century old and has served pretty well for the folks who have used it well.

Good use: German's in WW1, made it almost to Paris on the Schlieffen plan.
Bad use: France in WW2, they didn't think anyone would invade through belgum and the ardens. Despite the fact that the Germans went through Belgium in 1914.

So of course their are plans for nuclear war against NK, hell there are probabaly 10 of'em, least I hope.

c. Nuclear weapons in SK till 1998, thats questionable doctrine there for the positioning of such valuable weaponry. Why? As the Korean War proved the NKs are very close and very capable of mounting an invasion of SK and doing so in a very rapid manner. So you risk your stockpiles being over run, not to mention coming under threat from pre-invasion infiltrators. Japan is a far better location for'em. Japan is our, and I quote, "Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier in the Pacific", its a much safer location to store'em and given the speed & power of modern aircraft is not significantly farther from the theater to make use on both a strategic and tactical scale.

d. We have around 40k soldiers there I believe (please correct me if I am mistaken), and the levels have been pretty steady for awhile, but now some thought is of reducing it. How did you expect to stop 1 million men screaming across a border and ending up within a few dozen miles of the SK capital once across? The soldiers there are there for one thing...delaying action.

Oh, and the removal of troops from SK is no big deal because it simply enhances the overtness of the threat of nuclear retaliation, as well as faith in American air supremacy. While this can be called into question, the US military is still the world's only military which can and does use air units in place of infantry units in the role mobile response force. Thats a whole lotta faith in the capabilities of the Air Force, Navy, and Marines.
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