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Abi
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Abi
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Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 1747
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 19:45 Post subject:
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I think I should qualify this by saying..
1. I am pro choice
2. I don't agree with what she chose to do. nor do I support it, however I feel it's not the courts place to say so.
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Paco
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Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 19:47 Post subject:
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that b***h is ugly too..who would f**k her? hmmm, on second thought, there's prolly a few sick f*****s here that would, just cause they wanna get laid *that* badly
you know who you are gentlemen, no need to say anything
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Krumble
Toomuchtimeonhands

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 771
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 19:59 Post subject: Re: Woman gets probation for doing coke while pregnant... WT
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You couldn't possibly have read the article and still think that the court was too harsh in their ruling.
The woman let one of her twins die by neglecting to get a C-section per her doctor's instructions. The twin that did survive was born with alcohol and cocaine in her system.
Do you even have any idea what alcohol and cocaine can do to a developing fetus, before the development of the child's blood-brain barrier? The woman should have had her ovaries confiscated.
Douche bag.
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LerraLove
Toomuchtimeonhands

Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 827
Location: Redmond, Washington
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 19:59 Post subject:
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Isnt coke illegal anyways?
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Syke
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 12 Oct 2002 Posts: 2976
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 20:03 Post subject: Re: Woman gets probation for doing coke while pregnant... WT
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| Krumble wrote: |
You couldn't possibly have read the article and still think that the court was too harsh in their ruling.
The woman let one of her twins die by neglecting to get a C-section per her doctor's instructions. The twin that did survive was born with alcohol and cocaine in her system.
Do you even have any idea what alcohol and cocaine can do to a developing fetus, before the development of the child's blood-brain barrier? The woman should have had her ovaries confiscated.
Douche bag. |
Yea, I was kinda thinking this too....Abi like..Umm, well...I think she may have deserved this. :\
"They can't put people in jail for not following doctors orders.." is a pretty lame defense for doing what she did..
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wellspoken
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 7137
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 20:22 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | SALT LAKE CITY — A woman originally charged with murder for allegedly delaying a Caesarean section that could have saved one of her twins was sentenced Thursday to 18 months' probation for lesser counts of child endangerment. |
| Quote: | | Prosecutors dropped their capital murder charge against Rowland earlier this month based on her mental health history. Rowland pleaded guilty to two counts of child endangerment and admitted using cocaine in the weeks before she underwent the C-section in January that produced a stillborn boy. |
She needs to be shot in the f*****g head.
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Ikkan
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 3086
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 21:16 Post subject:
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She needs a MUCH more strict punishment, f*****g Jail time, I would have tried to give her the chair
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icebreaker
Luke Warm

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 396
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 21:20 Post subject:
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i don't know what kinda sentence would anyone else get for adicting a baby to drugs and subjecting them to developmental abuse..
she should be shot...and no i don't feel sorry for adicts..no matter the sob story
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wellspoken
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 7137
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 21:25 Post subject:
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| wellspoken wrote: | | Quote: | | SALT LAKE CITY — A woman originally charged with murder for allegedly delaying a Caesarean section that could have saved one of her twins was sentenced Thursday to 18 months' probation for lesser counts of child endangerment. |
| Quote: | | Prosecutors dropped their capital murder charge against Rowland earlier this month based on her mental health history. Rowland pleaded guilty to two counts of child endangerment and admitted using cocaine in the weeks before she underwent the C-section in January that produced a stillborn boy. |
She needs to be shot in the f*****g head. |
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wellspoken
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 21:26 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | I think I should qualify this by saying..
1. I am pro choice
2. I don't agree with what she chose to do. nor do I support it, however I feel it's not the courts place to say so. |
Idiot.
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Ikkan
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Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 3086
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 21:32 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | I think I should qualify this by saying..
1. I am pro choice
2. I don't agree with what she chose to do. nor do I support it, however I feel it's not the courts place to say so. |
So the courts aren't in charge of telling the woman she is a f*****g moron for doing coke and punishing her for it? Get real, Abi.
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Zapper
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 1512
Location: Connecticut
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 21:41 Post subject:
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She should get maggot breasts!!!!
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wellspoken
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 7137
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 22:46 Post subject:
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| Ikkan wrote: | | Abi wrote: | I think I should qualify this by saying..
1. I am pro choice
2. I don't agree with what she chose to do. nor do I support it, however I feel it's not the courts place to say so. |
So the courts aren't in charge of telling the woman she is a f*****g moron for doing coke and punishing her for it? Get real, Abi. |
Exactly, hes a idiot!
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lauren000
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Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Posts: 3510
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 23:13 Post subject:
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Mentally ill woman smokes cocaine and drinks alcohol while pregnant, fetus dies. She never should have been charged with capital murder, give me a break lol. She should have gotten prison time for f*****g up her unborn children though. I can't stand pregnant women that won't put down the bottle or the pipe, or cigarettes for that matter.
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Paco
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 12939
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 23:50 Post subject:
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is this your little way to tell us that's what you did to your mom?
she was f****d up on something to have turned out a freak of nature like you
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lauren000
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Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Posts: 3510
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 23:53 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | is this your little way to tell us that's what you did to your mom?
she was f****d up on something to have turned out a freak of nature like you |
No. Sorry. You lose. Now kindly p**s off and die.
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Obmar
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Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 1934
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 23:54 Post subject:
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again you f*****g idiots missed the main point
she is mentally unstable - don't try to rationalize what she did or why - she needs treatment (meds) and professional help.
when you try to rationalize insanity you only make yourself look silly
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Rennol
RealPoor Guru

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Posted: 04/29/04 - 23:56 Post subject:
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I think Abi was saying the courts shouldn't have given her so much leniency... at least that's how I interpreted it...
Her comment made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up where she said that "You shouldn't be charged with capital murder for not following doctor's orders" or along those lines.
Maybe if she wasn't a cokehead this wouldn't have happened.
Oh well, her kids would have probably been rejects too, apples don't fall far from the tree.
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Rennol
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 23:57 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: |
again you f*****g idiots missed the main point
she is mentally unstable - don't try to rationalize what she did or why - she needs treatment (meds) and professional help.
when you try to rationalize insanity you only make yourself look silly
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Your point is granted but that doesn't excuse anyone from doing cocaine a few weeks prior to giving birth.
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Obmar
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Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 1934
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Posted: 04/29/04 - 23:57 Post subject:
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this chick has bigger issues than drugs
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Paco
RealPoor Jedi

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Posted: 04/30/04 - 00:08 Post subject:
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| lauren000 wrote: | | Paco wrote: | is this your little way to tell us that's what you did to your mom?
she was f****d up on something to have turned out a freak of nature like you |
No. Sorry. You lose. Now kindly p**s off and die. |
ooo, struck a nerve I see
awww, pity party for larry!
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lauren000
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Posts: 3510
Location: colorado springs
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 00:11 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | | lauren000 wrote: | | Paco wrote: | is this your little way to tell us that's what you did to your mom?
she was f****d up on something to have turned out a freak of nature like you |
No. Sorry. You lose. Now kindly p**s off and die. |
ooo, struck a nerve I see
awww, pity party for larry! |
try using a clean solid such as a "towel" when bathing Paco. I know this is highly technicaly terminology for you, and I know oil isn't water soluble and this can present difficulties when attempting to scrub corn oil out of ones pours, but if you try really hard I'm sure you can get it done.
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ATM Banana
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 02 Jan 2003 Posts: 8575
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 00:16 Post subject:
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what?
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Ikkan
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 3086
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 08:54 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | again you f*****g idiots missed the main point
she is mentally unstable - don't try to rationalize what she did or why - she needs treatment (meds) and professional help.
when you try to rationalize insanity you only make yourself look silly |
If you read all the other information on her, she has been institutionalized/medicated multiple times, and she's still a f*****g reject.
And I've never heard of anything like O.C.T.D. (Obsessive Crack Taking Disorder), I don't think her mental situation had anything to do with her snorting coke like the Tool that she is.
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Zab
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 08:59 Post subject:
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woman needs to be f*****g hung in the town square then set on fire. and lauren, stfu eunuch.
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Callaren
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 1598
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 10:09 Post subject:
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| LerraLove wrote: | | Isnt coke illegal anyways? |
Yeppers. Just this is enough to justify jail time.
What I see wrong here is that she did drugs when she knows that drugs can severely affect/kill a fetus/baby. No good mother would ever put their children in danger like that. If one or both would have survived, they should have been taken away for adoption and put her in a rehab clinic and mental institution.
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Abi
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 1747
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 12:03 Post subject:
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No actually... I had a completely different reason for posting this...
I was trying to prove a point. One which I am suprised no one picked up on. Everyone knows I am a pretty far right wing conservative, yet I posted this taking up the extreme left's position. That being..
It's a womans body to do with as she wishes
The courts shouldn't infringe upon her right to treat her body as she wants
I expected the hardcore liberal aclu supporters to come in here touting their "constitutional rights" and acting suprised that I agree with them.. I find it interesting that no one did that. How can you call yourselves liberals.. you're a disgrace to your party!!!
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Abi
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 12:04 Post subject:
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Oh yea.. now that I proved my point.. I agree with all here .. the woman should have been shot.
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principessa
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 3149
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 12:15 Post subject:
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Alcohol abuse during pregnancy=fetal alcohol syndrome=#1 cause of mental retardation...
She's a psycho--anyone hospitalized from the age of 12 has a VERY poor prognosis for making it in life in any semblance of a normal fashion. The fact that she used drugs is not surprising--many mentally ill people self-medicate (diagnosis=MICA/Mentally Ill/Chemically Addicted). I worked on an admissions ward for these people in a NYS psychiatric center...believe me, they do NOT ever get better
There is no such disorder as OCTD...it is not listed in the DSM IV TR and, therefore, likely not recognized as a "real" disorder...if anything, it's a disorder that could be characterized as coming from poor impulse control but it really should just be classified as Substance Abuse Disorder or Substance Dependence Disorder...
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