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Bowcrusher
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 Posted: 02/09/04 - 15:12 Post subject: WoW impact
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Will WoW force guilds to merge to keep the numbers for GoD highend content, or has Sony already planned for this with restricted raid numbers ?
With 400k applying to beta thats a large chunk of eq players.
I send tells to eq friends in TA and ED all the time to see what they have been up too. I get the same response " Waiting on WoW time sucks "
ED+TA forms Awakened Dark ?
Numi+ Mokb forms Numibears ?
SA+TS forms ? hell i dunno this one
BC+CoS forms Company of Suck ?
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Haphasto
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 16:51 Post subject:
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depends on the content being release in EQ and how well WoW goes...could be all hype for all we know. Usually when an anticipated MMORPG comes out I try it and still stick with EQ. So far every other MMORPG i've tried has just slowly gotten boring and then I go back to EQ. We will see.
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quotison
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 16:57 Post subject:
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First off, will WoW be a better game? People have been saying that for all MMORPG's coming out, from DAoC on. None have proven true.
Secondly, if it is, will it have an immediate impact? Although WoW will have more name recgonition then games like EQ at the start, its silly to think that the day it comes out will mark the end of EQ.
There do seem to be lots of exciting things about WoW, and as an EQ player for 2 1/2 years its the first game I've tried to keep my eye on. Will WoW overtake EQ in terms of popularity? Possibly, impossible to tell at this point though. All we have is hype. I would not be concerned about the death of EQ just yet, though.
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khalysta
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 18:15 Post subject:
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Games are highly successful off the player base they get as well as the content they provide to keep people motivated. If blizzard can do both then it will be successful but I don't think it will "kill" eq. You have several big name games coming out over the next year or so with sigil, blizzard and eq and you never know about some of the smaller named ones what they will do. So even if wow beats eq2 to the market they will just be the next on the chopping block for when the next best thing comes out. Anyways it will hurt and take a few people away but just for the leveling blitz till people get bored of it like any other game.
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Tiluvas
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 18:17 Post subject:
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EQ will be empty for a few weeks, but people will start to slowly trickle back. I don't think WoW will be enough to keep the hardcore EQers interested, it seems to be more based on PvP. WoW will still do huge numbers, but mainly from the bnet crowd, not the EQ crowd.
I think the true "EQ Killer" will be EQ2 and SigilQuest. EQ2 I think will take most of the "casual" players. You know, the level 62 Ranger guys hanging in BoT all the time. Then, look to SigilQuest to take care of the "hardcore" old-timer folks that have been playing since before beta.
If you ever want to read about how f*****g addicting EQ is, try reading some stories on the EQWidows site.
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kakanek
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 18:30 Post subject:
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I agree i can see EQ 2 having a larger inpact then WoW. YEs Blizzard is god and yes there stuff rocks. But all that stuff was before the buy out. I guess we all will just have to wait and see.
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Yanbik
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 19:44 Post subject:
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I have a feeling the sigil game will beat them both just because those ppl know how to make a game that is super addictive. Even though we will see how truely godlike they are since they will have competition in the forms of eq2 and wow which they did not have onthe release of eq.
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Endraven
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 22:58 Post subject:
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what is this sigil game? never heard of it
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Yanbik
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 23:23 Post subject:
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www.sigilgames.com
look at the ppl who work there
if you dont recgonize them
learn who made eq and learn who does a lot of the graphics you have come to love 
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khrath
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 03:57 Post subject:
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alot of games that have come out have been better games than EQ.
The reason they didn't hit as big and retain playerbase is due to a simple psychological reason.
People grow attached to their online persona, alot of people literally are nothing without it. Sit in front of a computer all day every day and real life slowly drifts away from you until online becomes your real life, so there becomes fewer and fewer reasons to unplug at all.
You have the choice of becoming just another face in the crowd, with a long way to go before you are worth a damn....or you have the option of staying where you are and continuing on as always, as a persona that people recognize.
Give that choice to a bunch of people who already have given up their entire lives for an easier one to substitute their entire existance......what do you expect?
EQ isn't that great of a game, but it literally has a hold on it's playerbase, because they associate who they are with their eq char in a way, so they have a hard time letting go.
You have people like zuldane, bayard, me, etc who come and go a few on occasion who can just let go without fiending like a crack w***e.....and then you have people who play eq even when new games are out and they are playing them also.....they're scared to let go, they feel like they are missing out on something real if they aren't in eq....then you have the professional eq players, who literally have no life at all, and probably wouldn't even if they didn't play eq.....they're better off in eq and not in public anyways.
The first game that institutes a community like aspect where you have people you hate and love, you see the same people alot, and aren't with a new set of names you've never met before every day, will have a chance at hurting eq's playerbase. Lack of a way to make people feel like they belong is what hurts games the most. People want to log on and have people they know there to greet them. that will keep people coming back.
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Occulis
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 13:34 Post subject:
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Good post, Khrath.
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Xion
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 21:43 Post subject:
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| khalysta wrote: | | Games are highly successful off the player base they get as well as the content they provide to keep people motivated. If blizzard can do both then it will be successful but I don't think it will "kill" eq. You have several big name games coming out over the next year or so with sigil, blizzard and eq and you never know about some of the smaller named ones what they will do. So even if wow beats eq2 to the market they will just be the next on the chopping block for when the next best thing comes out. Anyways it will hurt and take a few people away but just for the leveling blitz till people get bored of it like any other game. |
Sigil is going to be a third gen game and is going to come out well after EQ2 and WoW
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Bayard
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 23:22 Post subject:
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| [evil]Khrath wrote: |
You have people like zuldane, bayard, me, etc who come and go a few on occasion who can just let go without fiending like a crack w***e.....and then you have people who play eq even when new games are out and they are playing them also.....they're scared to let go, they feel like they are missing out on something real if they aren't in eq....then you have the professional eq players, who literally have no life at all, and probably wouldn't even if they didn't play eq.....they're better off in eq and not in public anyways. |
Bah, how did my name get in this?!
WoW has a lot of neat things to offer, like a lot of people I am really hoping it will be a great game. But then again I also hoped that for AO, DAoC, SWG & FFXI each game held my intrest for a while until I realized one thing about all of them....They were big flaming piles of poo.
Like cheese said a lot of people just can't and won't let go of their characters. (Why do you think they have plans to keep pumping out expansions for EQ even after EQ2 is out.) People have put years of work into their characters and some just don't want to start over again, and then there are those that think their in game loot makes them special.
I personally don't think it will have an immediate impact on EQ subscriptions. It will however have an impact on raiding guilds right off the bat though. Just like DAoC, SWG, and I'm sure FFXI had when they 1st came out. Those that don't switch to WoW right off the bat will probably have troubles filling out their raid ranks.
Heck with WoW having an open beta eventually I really don't think that there will be much doubt of whether you like the game or not before it's released, because who wouldn't give it a whirl if they are on the fence?
Can you imagine how much money SOE would have lost on SWG if they had an open beta and everyone got to see for themselves how much the game stunk?
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Salvatorus
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 02:43 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Can you imagine how much money SOE would have lost on SWG if they had an open beta and everyone got to see for themselves how much the game stunk? |
That could be said about alot of MMorpgs that have come out. Ive tried AO, DaoC,Swg,FX11, and planetside. To me they all sucked and where boring after a few days. But i got high hopes for WoW. Ive been watching it since it was annoucenced. To me it looks like it will make up for short comings of alot of those other games.
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khrath
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 03:59 Post subject:
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AO doesnt suck really....people just arent very forgiving of a game that opens how AO did....record breaking suck
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NinjaBurger
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 04:43 Post subject:
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You wanna go where everybody knows your name.
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Arnaxus
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 04:53 Post subject: Re: WoW impact
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| Bowcrusher wrote: | Will WoW force guilds to merge to keep the numbers for GoD highend content, or has Sony already planned for this with restricted raid numbers ?
With 400k applying to beta thats a large chunk of eq players.
I send tells to eq friends in TA and ED all the time to see what they have been up too. I get the same response " Waiting on WoW time sucks "
ED+TA forms Awakened Dark ?
Numi+ Mokb forms Numibears ?
SA+TS forms ? hell i dunno this one
BC+CoS forms Company of Suck ?
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Does it have to be just two guilds combining? I always figured it would eventually be the "Awakened Clan of Enlightend Omen serving Numi-Minions"
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khrath
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 05:01 Post subject:
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The stronger guilds will assimilate members from the lesser guilds until they are at full force.
Happens the same way everytime a new game pulls players away from EQ.
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