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Jinu
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 18:48 Post subject: Whoa, angry mexicans
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Mexican Honor and Olympics on Line vs. U.S.
By ELISABETH MALKIN
Published: February 10, 2004
MEXICO CITY, Feb. 9 — For Mexico's beleaguered people, Tuesday's soccer match between Mexico and the United States in Guadalajara is about much more than winning a place in the Summer Olympics in Athens.
It is about national honor.
To many Mexicans, soccer has become a proxy for all the indignities the country has suffered at the hands of the United States in almost two centuries of independence. During the first century, the United States invaded Mexico, annexed a third of its territory and intervened in its revolution. In Mexican eyes, the United States now alternately bullies its southern neighbor or ignores it — all the while building a wall to keep out Mexicans.
So soccer commentators found little incongruity this week in waxing historical.
"We are going to remember and repeat the gringos' defeat at the Alamo," the columnist Alfredo Domínguez Muro wrote today in the daily Reforma.
The sold-out semifinal match at 60,000-seat Jalisco Stadium will be between the under-23 national teams of Mexico and the United States. Only the winner will advance to Athens.
Honduras plays Costa Rica earlier in the day for the other berth in the Olympics from the Concacaf region, which encompasses North America, Central America and the Caribbean. The United States defeated Honduras, 4-3, on Saturday to win its group, and Costa Rica held Mexico to a 1-1 draw to win the other four-team group.
Mexico is expected to benefit from its home-team advantage and furious fan support. Fans chanted "Osama, Osama, Osama" and booed during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner" when the United States defeated Canada, 2-0, last Thursday in a first-round game in Zapopan.
"The Mexican team will start the game with 12 players because of the 60,000," Coach Glenn Myernick said after the United States beat Honduras in Guadalajara Saturday. "But none of them can kick the ball."
United States striker Landon Donovan was more blunt. The Mexico fans "hate us," he told The Associated Press Monday in Guadalajara. "I sometimes wish I didn't know Spanish, but I think everybody understands what they are saying."
To prevent violence, the city officials in Guadalajara have doubled the number of police at the game. About 80 officers will be stationed around the field to watch the stands, Fernando Chávez, information director for the local government, said. Another 60 officers will patrol the seating areas closest to the field. Twenty more will be outside the stadium.
What rankles many Mexicans is that as United States soccer has come of age over the past decade, Mexico has suffered a humiliating string of losses. The United States has won six of the last eight games between the two senior national teams.
The most excruciating result was Mexico's 2-0 loss to the United States in the second round of the 2002 World Cup, a result that has raised the stakes even higher for Tuesday's game.
"They eliminated us from the World Cup, so for us, this is revenge and what better way to take it then pushing them out of the Olympics," Luis Alonso Sandoval, one of Mexico's strikers, said.
Clear-eyed assessments of the team's performance so far suggest the players will need the fans' support.
"The Mexicans grow when they are enveloped by their public," José Ramón Fernández, the chief commentator of TV Azteca, Mexico's No. 2 television network, said. "They feel secure, better and they show their quality, and on occasion, good soccer."
But he argued that if the qualifying games had been played elsewhere, Mexico would have found it tough to get this far.
Some fans agree. "I think that if the Mexicans win, it will only be because the U.S. team plays badly, not because the Mexican team has talent or because the Mexican team really puts everything into it," said Antonio Rosado, 33, who has a shoeshine stand outside the headquarters of the Mexican federation.
But loyal fans believe that playing the United States gives the team added motivation.
"It's a question of honor, a question of history," said a newspaper seller, Anselmo Cazares, 58. "We should always beat them, we should always try to humiliate the gringos."
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Zapper
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 1512
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 18:51 Post subject:
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They need to get a life
If they hate us so much why are they worried about the wall and why are they so hell bent on climbing over it.
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Mental_Hernia
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Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 3336
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 19:35 Post subject:
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I dont give a rat's ass about soccer, but because of this I want US to whip the wetback ass
Mátenlos!
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Occulis
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 19:39 Post subject:
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Seriously, if we are causing them "indignities" then they can just stay in their own f*****g country and earn $0.05 per week.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 19:42 Post subject:
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mexicans are so sad dont make fun of them, they are like the little retarded puppy that pees on your door and then needs to be scolded.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 19:56 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | mexicans are so sad dont make fun of them, they are like the little retarded puppy that pees on your door and then needs to be scolded. |
Yes, but I've known many who are hardworking, decent family people. And many more who are just like us =)
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Tolanin
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 20:02 Post subject:
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how can you agree with that, that analogy didnt make any sense
what-so-ever even to me
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Tolanin
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 20:11 Post subject:
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and this is gay!
Last edited by Tolanin on 02/10/04 - 20:46; edited 1 time in total
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ATM Banana
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Joined: 02 Jan 2003 Posts: 8575
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 20:27 Post subject:
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| Zapper wrote: | | They need to get a life. |
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Yanbik
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 21:01 Post subject:
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some mexicans are trash others are ok. But by first hand experience most are trash.
I play soccer w/ some mexicans every week and some of them are cool, others are little b*****s who dont have any concept of the rules at all. Or if they do they dont give a f**k. I just think its funny as hell when like 20 of them show up in 3 vehicles and they have like their parents and sisters and whole family to watch them play pickup soccer for 2 hours. Not to mention some of them have like gold grills, well let me say 3 gold teeth in a row. Even a few have meximullets.
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Zapper
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 21:06 Post subject:
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mullatino or meximullet: a person of Latin or Chicano descent adorning a mullet. This happens to be one of my favorite mullet pictures, I like the streamlined, smooth look, and the absence of sideburns. Some mullatinos like to accessorize their mullets with snakeskin boots, big ol' belt buckles, silk shirts (with rooster prints) and colored jeans.
most mullatinos are friendly, family folk--with a passion por lambada--the forbidden dance. or something.
Mulletude: 9
Aggressiveness: 10
Hobbies: Budweiser.
Sightings: Wal*Mart on Sunday after church.
Favorite Band: Los Bukis.
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Zwadrich
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Posted: 02/10/04 - 22:46 Post subject: Re: Whoa, angry mexicans
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| Jinu wrote: | | Whoa, angry mexicans |
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Paco
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 01:01 Post subject: Re: Whoa, angry mexicans
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| Zwadrich wrote: | | Jinu wrote: | | Whoa, angry mexicans |
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wtf? those are asians sir
get it right
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 02:52 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | how can you agree with that, that analogy didnt make any sense
what-so-ever even to me |
Because I also know tons of useless, lazy scumbag Mexicans who hate America yet want to live here.
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Zwadrich
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 08:28 Post subject: Re: Whoa, angry mexicans
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| Paco wrote: |
wtf? those are asians sir
get it right |
NO THEYRNOT!
they live in mexico
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sinrakin
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 18:00 Post subject:
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WTF - we lost to Mexico. Obviously, I blame Bush
GUADALAJARA, Mexico — The boos nearly drowned out "The Star-Spangled Banner," and a few dozen fans chanted "Usama! Usama!" as the United States was eliminated by Mexico in Olympic men's soccer qualifying.
A loud anti-American crowd yelled the first name of Usama bin Laden, the leader of the Al Qaeda terrorists who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks, as Mexico beat the United States 4-0 Tuesday night in the under-23 tournament, claiming a berth in the Athens Olympics.
As U.S. players left the stadium for their bus, several fans -- some clutching beers -- chanted "Usama! Usama!"
Police in riot gear held back the crowd and urged people to calm down.
"I think the fans here in Mexico are terrific; I think their patriotism and support of their team is terrific," U.S. coach Glenn Myernick said. "But unless I missed something, not one of them came down on the field and kicked the ball. We were beaten by a better football team tonight, not by the fans."
For Mexico, the game partly avenged a 2-0 loss to the United States in the second round of the 2002 World Cup, a far more important tournament involving national teams.
The U.S. men will miss the Olympics for the first time since 1980 -- when the entire American delegation boycotted the Moscow Games. Mexico also ended the United States' 19-tournament streak of qualifying for every FIFA men's outdoor event, including the World Cup, the Olympics, the World Youth Championship for players under 20 and the Under-17 World Championship.
While both Mexican national television networks broadcast Tuesday's game live in Mexico, there was no television in the United States, where the game was broadcast on closed circuit to about 190 restaurants.
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Syke
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 18:47 Post subject: Re: Whoa, angry mexicans
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| Zwadrich wrote: | | Paco wrote: |
wtf? those are asians sir
get it right |
NO THEYRNOT!
they live in mexico  |
hahahaha
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