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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 11:31    Post subject: Who are the real Nazis today? Reply with quote

Who Are the Real Nazis in America Today?
Written by Cinnamon Stillwell
Monday, October 11, 2004


* Thugs storm campaign headquarters, intimidating staffers and refusing to leave.

* Campaign signs are vandalized, stolen, and set on fire in front of peoples' homes.

* The word ''Nazi'' is spray painted on the sidewalk in front of a home, along with swastikas.

* Shots are fired through the window of campaign headquarters.

* An 8-foot swastika is burned into a home’s front lawn.

If these incidents ( http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerry200410061538.asp )sound reminiscent of Nazi Germany or the Klu Klux Klan's early rampages, then you're in for a surprise, because they all took place in modern day America, during the run-up to the 2004 presidential election. And instead of Nazis and the KKK, it's Democrats and their leftist minions who are the perpetrators this time around. In a classic case of projection, they use swastikas ( http://www.channel3000.com/politics/3776992/detail.html )to smear their political adversaries, when it is in fact they who have become today's Nazis.

Like so much of America's leftist ''cultural heritage,'' this Nazi-obsession can be traced back to the 1960s. An Australian relative of mine who arrived in America during the so-called Summer of Love, was shocked to hear people using the term ''Nazi'' on a daily basis. The government, the police, and even parents were labeled ''fascists'' and ''Nazis'' by hippie youth rebelling against any and all authority.

Years later, not much has changed. Today it's hip on the left to label Republicans and in particular President Bush ''Nazis'' at every turn. Bush is routinely compared to Adolph Hitler, most famously in an ad put out by Democratic 527 MoveOn.org earlier this year. Hitler mustaches superimposed on Bush photos are popular at anti-war rallies, as are cute little Bush/Hitler dolls. Al Gore's notorious ''digital Brown Shirts'' comment during a speech at the Georgetown University Law Center, implied that the Bush administration exerted some kind of diabolical control over online journalism. Indeed, such allusions are so widespread that numerous articles ( http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg090403.asp )and websites ( http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler.html )have been devoted to chronicling them.

Trying to explain the ''logic'' behind this bizarre association, one of the teenagers arrested for spray painting swastikas on a Bush/Cheney supporter's property in Duluth ( http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthtribune/9674817.htm ), Minnesota said, ''The connection between the Nazi party was Hitler used nationalism as a way to motivate his cause and we feel that Bush is doing the same thing.'' Having been brainwashed by years of moral relativism, such youth are apparently unable to distinguish between patriotism and fascism. They also have a distorted view of their own behavior. As the same young man put it, ''We're anti-fascist.''

Leftist Jew-haters joined the crowd when they decided to start smearing Israel with the stain of Nazism. Despite the cruel irony of affixing the symbol of Jewish annihilation to a Jewish state, leftists have taken to this tactic with enthusiasm. Swastikas are now featured prominently at anti-war rallies, usually in combination with a Star of David. Along these lines, Israeli flags are routinely defiled by replacing the Star of David with a swastika. And now that these rallies have been infiltrated by various Islamist groups – with their Palestinian flags, Hamas-style chants, and subtle signs saying ''Kill the Jews'' among others – the sea of swastikas fits perfectly.

Similarly over the top are the accusations leveled against political foes in general these days. It is now common to label opponents ''hateful'' or ''filled with hate.'' Apparently, ''hate'' now describes anyone who holds a political viewpoint contrary to one's own. All this hysteria has the unfortunate effect of trivializing history and depleting language of meaning.

At the end of the day, the simple fact is that the only people in America today (aside from a few neo-Nazis) running around spray painting, burning, and affixing swastikas are leftists. In an effort to point out what they see as the fascistic impulses of the right, they have in effect become the Nazis they claim to oppose. Faced with a popular president, the momentum of history, and their own lust for power, the left has resorted to the tactics of fascism ( http://www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200410070852.asp ): harassment, intimidation, and violence. Lord only knows what they'll do if Bush wins the presidency come November, but you can be sure it will involve swastikas.


About the Writer: Cinnamon Stillwell is contributing editor to ChronWatch and lives in San Francisco. Cinnamon receives e-mail at cstillwell@chronwatch.com.
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 14:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stopped reading after "leftists...are nazis".
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 14:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvermouse wrote:
I stopped reading after "leftists...are nazis".


I laughed after reading "leftists..are nazis", and said to myself "yup, seems fairly accurate. I know lots of people like that, and it just clicks"

Kinda scary if you ask me.

I guess that'd make Jack and Wily nazis of today. Zeig Heil! They certainly fit the picture of leftist liberals.
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 15:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elaborate on how leftists are nazis. Do they kill millions of jews and use military force to conquer nearby countries?
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 15:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

the term 'nazi' is much more broad than you see it. he mean people with nzi characteristics, but i still dont agree
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 15:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

97% of nazis were simple soldiers.

Is he referring to the wicked 3%?
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 16:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvermouse wrote:
97% of nazis were simple soldiers.
Is he referring to the wicked 3%?


No comment. Rolling Eyes

I do think that a percentage of Kerry supporters are becoming the very thing that they abhor. I am beginning to see very little difference of what they claim conservatives are doing versus what they are doing themselves.
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 16:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just annoys me to no end that it's only the evil leftists that are the extremists. Does anyone remember extremist right wingers blowing up abortion clinics and threatening doctors' lives or was I living on a different planet?

Both sides do the same shit, why even bother pointing fingers?

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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 16:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Referring to what Silvermouse said, Nazi doesn't mean you turn Jews into soap, it just means that they are National Socialists, the extreme end of the political spectrum, the radicals.
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 16:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the word you're looking for is "fanatical".
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 17:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Queen of Jews wrote:
1 of them is the awesome person who destroyed my post count... <3


I just noticed your post count, or lack there of...ANUS IN FACE!@LOL
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 17:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

All radicals from both sides are abhorrent to me. Violence does not get your message across, it works in the opposite fashion.

But the thing that amazes me, is that this is not getting national attention...HOWEVER, if radical Republicans had assaulted demoncRatic offices, it would have been on every nightly news program.

But if they did stories on these recent happenings, it would hurt the chances that Kerry might have had to get elected. Razz
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 18:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvermouse wrote:
I stopped reading after "leftists...are nazis".
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 18:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack Crow wrote:
Silvermouse wrote:
I stopped reading after "leftists...are nazis".
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 19:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just find it funny that Democrats are so hateful, real liberal view they have (Yes, I know not all Democrats are liberals, but certainly seem to be).
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 19:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brael wrote:
I just find it funny that Democrats are so hateful, real liberal view they have (Yes, I know not all Democrats are liberals, but certainly seem to be).


Funny how you paint the "whole party" hateful when this done by a few. But I wouldnt expect anything less of a cliinic bombers like yourselfs.. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 19:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paco wrote:
Queen of Jews wrote:
1 of them is the awesome person who destroyed my post count... <3


I just noticed your post count, or lack there of...ANUS IN FACE!@LOL


It's not just the count which has been reset. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 19:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone sucks!

There that takes care of it
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 19:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Few? Just in my town of 10000 people in the middle of nowhere Ohio in the last 2 months I've seen multiple stopsigns vandalised with the word Bush spraypainted under stop, I've seen Bush/Cheney reelection signs ruined, and I've had my car broken into because I had a reelect Bush bumper sticker on it. Considering this type of stuff is happening all over, I would say it's more than a small few of them.
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 20:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

this shit is like saying Kbarr = all New Yorkers ( well if hes really from new york even, he spins so many lies, there is no knowing anything anymore )
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 20:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buckshot wrote:
this shit is like saying Kbarr = all New Yorkers ( well if hes really from new york even, he spins so many lies, there is no knowing anything anymore )


Kbarr is the only damn yankee I like. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10/12/04 - 23:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brael wrote:
I just find it funny that Democrats are so hateful, real liberal view they have (Yes, I know not all Democrats are liberals, but certainly seem to be).

After the elections, there will be a total revamp of the Democratic Party. It may split apart, reinvent itself, or have people leave the party. A lot of the more conservative Southern Democrats, such as Zell Miller, have either left the party or have retired. There are some conservatives left but there are not many. What remains are some moderates and some very liberal democrats. There have been a few reports about the liberal democrats trying to push the moderates out. We won't know until the elections are over, but people are expecting a Democrat reshuffling similar to what the Republicans did in the 80s.
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PostPosted: 10/13/04 - 00:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

"there have been reports..."

awesome fogginess
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PostPosted: 10/13/04 - 01:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have also been numerous reports of similar thuggery from the other side, it is only the Republicans that have been taking all the isolated incidents and claiming some kind of organized campaign or just general lawlessness by their opponents. But this is typical of the character assassination as practiced by the leadership of the Republican party these days.
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PostPosted: 10/13/04 - 10:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obmar wrote:
"there have been reports..."
awesome fogginess

(sigh) Rolling Eyes This is from Sunday (San Francisco Chronical) :

Quote:

Influential figures on the party's left wing are planning a long-term campaign to move the Democrats to the left, just as right-wing activists took over the Republican Party and moved it to the right over the past 30 years.

Left in the wings: The looming fight for the heart and soul of the Democratic Party
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PostPosted: 10/14/04 - 00:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Docter wrote:
Violence does not get your message across,


Yes it does. When terrorists violently slammed two aircraft into the World Trade Center, they sent us a pretty g*****n clear message. We want to kill YOU and all that YOU stand for.
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