The time now is 11/22/08 - 19:15
Log in: Username: Password:
Search forums for:
  

Who Was General Tso And Why Are We Eating His Chicken?

Post new topic   Reply to topic
Author Message
NickPSH
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 5680



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 01:44    Post subject: Who Was General Tso And Why Are We Eating His Chicken? Reply with quote

Each evening, thousands of Americans drift into Chinese restaurants or, if they are too lazy to go out, pick up the phone and order one of the most popular dishes on the menu: General Tso's Chicken, a sugary-spicy melange of dark-meat tidbits, deep-fried then fired up with ginger, garlic, sesame oil, scallions and hot chili peppers.

Not one in 10,000 knows who General Tso (most commonly pronounced "sow") was, nor what terrible times he lived through, nor the dark massacres that distinguished his baleful, belligerent career. Setting their chopsticks aside, patting their stomachs, the satisfied diners spare scarcely a thought for General Tso, except to imagine that he must have been a great connoisseur of hot stir-fried chicken.

Who was he?

General Tso Tsungtang, or as his name is spelled in modern Pinyin, Zuo Zongtang, was born on Nov. 10, 1812, and died on Sept. 5, 1885. He was a frighteningly gifted military leader during the waning of the Qing dynasty, a figure perhaps the Chinese equivalent of the American Civil War commander William Tecumseh Sherman. He served with brilliant distinction during China's greatest civil war, the 14-year-long Taiping Rebellion, which claimed millions of lives.

Tso was utterly ruthless. He smashed the Taiping rebels in four provinces, put down an unrelated revolt called the Nian Rebellion, then marched west and reconquered Chinese Turkestan from Muslim rebels.

Arthur W. Hummel devotes five double-columned pages to the general in the monumental 1944 "Eminent Chinese of the Ch'ing Period (1644-1912)" published by the Library of Congress.

Tso emerges from several sources as a self-made man, born in Hunan province, a hilly hot-tempered heartland, whose cuisine rivals that of Sichuan for sheer firepower. (While Sichuan food is hot right up front, in the mouth, in your face; Hunanese cuisine tends to build up inside you, like a slow charcoal fire, until you feel as though your belly is filled with burning coals.)

As a young man Tso flunked the official court exams three times, a terrible disgrace. He returned home, married and devoted himself to practical studies, like agriculture and geography. He took up silkworm farming and tea farming and chose a gentle sobriquet, calling himself "The Husbandman of the River Hsiang." Like Sherman, stuck teaching at a military academy in Louisiana on the eve of the Civil War, he seemed washed up.

He was 38 when the Taiping Rebellion broke out in 1850. For the rest of his life, Tso would wield the sword, becoming one of the most remarkably successful military commanders in Chinese history.

The Taiping Rebellion -- a movement that in part advocated Christian doctrine -- nearly toppled the Qing dynasty. It was founded by Hong Xiuquan, a Chinese mystic who believed he was the younger brother of Jesus. The whole astonishing episode has been described admirably by Yale scholar Jonathan Spence in his "God's Chinese Son." (Norton, 1996).

Tso made war, and war made Tso. He began his military career as an adjutant and secretary for the governor of Hunan province. He raised a force of 5,000 volunteers and took the field in September 1860, driving the Taiping rebels out of Hunan and Guangxi provinces, into coastal Zhejiang. There he captured the big cities of Shaoxing, still famous for its sherrylike rice wine. From there he pushed south into Fujian and Guangdong provinces, where the revolt had first begun and spread, and had crushed the Taipings by the time the rebellion ended in 1864.

The Taiping Rebellion was the greatest upheaval in 19th century China. It caused massive displacements and shifts in population. Hundreds of thousands of people fled or emigrated, many to America, where they worked building the transcontinental railroad, which was completed in 1869.

It would be possible to leave the story here and say that General Tso's Chicken simply honors a great personality, just as Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington, is honored in Beef Wellington; Pavel Stroganoff, a 19th-century Russian diplomat, in Beef Stroganoff; Count Charles de Nesselrode (another 19th-century Russian diplomat) in Nesselrode Pudding,; or Australian opera singer Nellie Melba in the dessert, Peach Melba. Indeed some believe it quite likely that the dish was whipped up for the general after some signal victory, just as Chicken Marengo was whipped up for Napoleon after he defeated the Austrians at Marengo on June 14, 1800.

Still, the recipe is not particularly original -- the ingredients are used in many stir-fry Chinese dishes -- and the dark meat chicken argues for a humbler origin. It's a poor man's dish, not a feast for a field marshal.

Is it possible that, struggling to carve out a new life in America under backbreaking adversities, and having heard of the sword skills of the remorseless General Tso (who had the top leaders of the Nian Rebellion executed with the proverbial "death of 10,000 cuts"), the overseas exiles indulged in some gallows-humor about their old enemy? That the chopped-up chicken dish may have gotten its name from the sliced and diced victims of Tso's grim reprisals?

This might conceivably explain why General Tso's Chicken is very much an overseas Chinese dish, filtering the hot, peppery taste of Hunan cuisine, through the sweetening process of Cantonese cooking. Most of the immigrants to America came from coastal regions: Shanghai and Canton.
Back to top
ATM Banana
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 02 Jan 2003
Posts: 8575



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 01:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the first three paragraphs would have been enough to put a congressman asleep.
Back to top
Aluaeia
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 06 Jun 2003
Posts: 5670



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 01:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it very entertaining to know of the history behind the food that I consume.
Back to top
TarewMonk
Total Newbie
Total Newbie


Joined: 19 Mar 2003
Posts: 21



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 01:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyson Chicken > General Tso
Back to top
Aluaeia
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 06 Jun 2003
Posts: 5670



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 02:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

TarewMonk wrote:
Tyson Chicken > General Tso


If you prefer greasy rotting meat to meat slathered in spices and sauce and mixed with fresh cooked vegetables.
Back to top
Luturb
RealPoor Guru
RealPoor Guru


Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 4042
Location: Livermore, California



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 02:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno but I live in an area of the country with probably one of the largest chinese populations anywhere in the US. I eat lots of chinese food. I have never heard of General Tso's Chicken. I have had just plain old General's Chicken. I think I've had General Chang's chicken. But I've never heard of General Tso in a chinese restraunt.
Back to top
TarewMonk
Total Newbie
Total Newbie


Joined: 19 Mar 2003
Posts: 21



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 02:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyson Chicken owns you... and I don't say that only because of my biased opinion due to the fact that my name is Tyson.
Back to top
ATM Banana
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 02 Jan 2003
Posts: 8575



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 02:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

chikity china the chinese chicken, all the way!
Back to top
Finigan
RealPoor Guru
RealPoor Guru


Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 3817



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 02:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luturb wrote:
I dunno but I live in an area of the country with probably one of the largest chinese populations anywhere in the US. I eat lots of chinese food. I have never heard of General Tso's Chicken. I have had just plain old General's Chicken. I think I've had General Chang's chicken. But I've never heard of General Tso in a chinese restraunt.


That's pretty strange, General Tso's chicken is a pretty popular dish. It's like Mc Donald's Big Mac for chinese food.
Back to top
Aluaeia
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 06 Jun 2003
Posts: 5670



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 02:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luturb wrote:
I dunno but I live in an area of the country with probably one of the largest chinese populations anywhere in the US. I eat lots of chinese food. I have never heard of General Tso's Chicken. I have had just plain old General's Chicken. I think I've had General Chang's chicken. But I've never heard of General Tso in a chinese restraunt.


Back to top
atarom
Guest







PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 05:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

oohhhh general gao, you're a bloodthirsty foe, but your chicken is delectable!
Back to top
sinrakin
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 7044



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 07:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I like General Gau chicken - is that the same as General Tso? Or are they like rivals?
Back to top
Gato
Can't Stop Posting
Can't Stop Posting


Joined: 13 Oct 2002
Posts: 706



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 08:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go Ghetto. Go Churches Chicken.
Back to top
Paden
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 23 Oct 2002
Posts: 9362
Location: North CAROLINA!



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 08:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pop Eyes chicken f00!
Back to top
Gato
Can't Stop Posting
Can't Stop Posting


Joined: 13 Oct 2002
Posts: 706



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 09:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bojangles Chicken Yo!

Betta check yo'sef foo! I got back-hand like John Macin'row.. I be smacking da b*****s..
Back to top
compusmack
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 15 Oct 2002
Posts: 6354



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 09:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chicken w/ Broccoli > General Tso Chicken.
Back to top
NickPSH
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 5680



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 09:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOOLS NO ONE DEFIES THE GENERALS CHICKEN
Back to top
Gato
Can't Stop Posting
Can't Stop Posting


Joined: 13 Oct 2002
Posts: 706



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 10:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paden wrote:
Pop Eyes chicken f00!


Razz looking at your dog, I get it now.. POP eyes
Back to top
Akronn
Guest







PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 11:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three cheers for MSG!
Back to top
sinrakin
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 7044



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 11:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently I have to do my own research. So as it turns out:

Quote:
Eileen Yin-Fei Lo calls General Tso’s Chicken “one of the most well known dishes of the transplanted Chinese restaurant.” She has seen it referred to as “not only the chicken of one General Tso, but of General Tsao, General Taso, General Toa, General Cho, General Gau, General Ching, General Kung, and General Tseng.” As if this list weren’t varied enough, Eileen even says she has also seen it attributed to a “General Ciao.” As you know, that’s an informal “goodbye” in Italian.
Back to top
Silvermouse
RealPoor Jedi
RealPoor Jedi


Joined: 12 Oct 2002
Posts: 11015



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 12:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next time you go to a Chinese restaurant look for a statuette of a large man with a beard and a giant halberd-like sword. He might be wearing green. That's Kuan Yu (Guan Yu in English), and he brings luck!
Back to top
Aenthi
Luke Warm
Luke Warm


Joined: 09 Jan 2003
Posts: 116



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 13:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was well written and interesting to read. You still scare me.

Tizitchy Tinkergnome wrote:
Have you ever been sitting in line and imagine something odd happening out of pure boredom. Perhaps the lady in front of you strips naked, you jump on her back piggy-back style, then mow everyone in front of you with a chainsaw down.
Back to top
Goraz
RealPoor Guru
RealPoor Guru


Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 3736
Location: Philadelphia



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 15:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luturb wrote:
I dunno but I live in an area of the country with probably one of the largest chinese populations anywhere in the US. I eat lots of chinese food. I have never heard of General Tso's Chicken. I have had just plain old General's Chicken. I think I've had General Chang's chicken. But I've never heard of General Tso in a chinese restraunt.


You don't get out much then.
General Tsos chicken is one of the most popular platters for chinese food. Or maybe Generals chicken = shortened version
Back to top
sinrakin
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 7044



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 15:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a general, isn't it just a little bit of a slap to have a chicken dish named after you?
Back to top
Aluaeia
RealPoor Master of Posts
RealPoor Master of Posts


Joined: 06 Jun 2003
Posts: 5670



PostPosted: 06/07/03 - 18:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinrakin wrote:
As a general, isn't it just a little bit of a slap to have a chicken dish named after you?


As a corpse, does it matter?
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic
Page 1 of 1

Related topics:
WTS Age Of Conan General BETA Account -= Look! =-
Giving imba 70 rogue for general beta key unused
Selling Age of Conan Tech & General Beta Account
Trading Warhammer beta account (EU) for AoC general account
AoC - Age of Conan General + Technical Beta Account
Selling lvl 87 general char 920 total
WTS: Age of Conan General Beta Account
AoC tech beta upgrade to general beta?
WTT AoC General Beta for WAR (EU) beta
AoC General beta account with technical beta access.
WTB AoC General Beta Account
AOC / Age of Conan GENERAL BETA account for SALE !
WTT WAR US closed beta for AoC general beta
WTS - Age of Conan - General Beta
WTT WAR EU Beta 4 AoC General Beta
WTS Age of Conan General Beta Account (PvP Server ON)
Age of Canon General Beta Account
WTS AOC GENERAL BETA KEY FOR EVE ISK!
WTS AoC general beta EU
Wtt Eu Wow account with 2 70's for Aoc General beta account
TRADING A HIGH LVL for any lvl with a rubber chicken
Please, think of the chickens.
trading runescape account with rubber chicken and zombiehead
Level 85 with Rubber Chicken + 4M+
SELLING LVL 80 TANKER WITH A RUBBER CHICKEN
way better than the virtual chicken
What do women and Kentucky Fried Chicken have in common?
chicken dance? lol
Why is Bush being such a chickenshit ?
Chicken Noodle Soup is fucking awesome
SELLING LVL 80 TANKER WITH A RUBBER CHICKEN
CHOKE THE CHICKEN STONED PPL!
Big Bucking Chicken
Hot Chicken Wings
McDonalds Chicken Selects
Your very own chicken servant
sk8ter, why did the chicken cross the road?
i call that one my "kung pao chicken."
and i ate chicken, i tfouth id throw ath in just for kcisk
Lightning Strike Kills 10,000 Chickens