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NickPSH
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 01:44 Post subject: Who Was General Tso And Why Are We Eating His Chicken?
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Each evening, thousands of Americans drift into Chinese restaurants or, if they are too lazy to go out, pick up the phone and order one of the most popular dishes on the menu: General Tso's Chicken, a sugary-spicy melange of dark-meat tidbits, deep-fried then fired up with ginger, garlic, sesame oil, scallions and hot chili peppers.
Not one in 10,000 knows who General Tso (most commonly pronounced "sow") was, nor what terrible times he lived through, nor the dark massacres that distinguished his baleful, belligerent career. Setting their chopsticks aside, patting their stomachs, the satisfied diners spare scarcely a thought for General Tso, except to imagine that he must have been a great connoisseur of hot stir-fried chicken.
Who was he?
General Tso Tsungtang, or as his name is spelled in modern Pinyin, Zuo Zongtang, was born on Nov. 10, 1812, and died on Sept. 5, 1885. He was a frighteningly gifted military leader during the waning of the Qing dynasty, a figure perhaps the Chinese equivalent of the American Civil War commander William Tecumseh Sherman. He served with brilliant distinction during China's greatest civil war, the 14-year-long Taiping Rebellion, which claimed millions of lives.
Tso was utterly ruthless. He smashed the Taiping rebels in four provinces, put down an unrelated revolt called the Nian Rebellion, then marched west and reconquered Chinese Turkestan from Muslim rebels.
Arthur W. Hummel devotes five double-columned pages to the general in the monumental 1944 "Eminent Chinese of the Ch'ing Period (1644-1912)" published by the Library of Congress.
Tso emerges from several sources as a self-made man, born in Hunan province, a hilly hot-tempered heartland, whose cuisine rivals that of Sichuan for sheer firepower. (While Sichuan food is hot right up front, in the mouth, in your face; Hunanese cuisine tends to build up inside you, like a slow charcoal fire, until you feel as though your belly is filled with burning coals.)
As a young man Tso flunked the official court exams three times, a terrible disgrace. He returned home, married and devoted himself to practical studies, like agriculture and geography. He took up silkworm farming and tea farming and chose a gentle sobriquet, calling himself "The Husbandman of the River Hsiang." Like Sherman, stuck teaching at a military academy in Louisiana on the eve of the Civil War, he seemed washed up.
He was 38 when the Taiping Rebellion broke out in 1850. For the rest of his life, Tso would wield the sword, becoming one of the most remarkably successful military commanders in Chinese history.
The Taiping Rebellion -- a movement that in part advocated Christian doctrine -- nearly toppled the Qing dynasty. It was founded by Hong Xiuquan, a Chinese mystic who believed he was the younger brother of Jesus. The whole astonishing episode has been described admirably by Yale scholar Jonathan Spence in his "God's Chinese Son." (Norton, 1996).
Tso made war, and war made Tso. He began his military career as an adjutant and secretary for the governor of Hunan province. He raised a force of 5,000 volunteers and took the field in September 1860, driving the Taiping rebels out of Hunan and Guangxi provinces, into coastal Zhejiang. There he captured the big cities of Shaoxing, still famous for its sherrylike rice wine. From there he pushed south into Fujian and Guangdong provinces, where the revolt had first begun and spread, and had crushed the Taipings by the time the rebellion ended in 1864.
The Taiping Rebellion was the greatest upheaval in 19th century China. It caused massive displacements and shifts in population. Hundreds of thousands of people fled or emigrated, many to America, where they worked building the transcontinental railroad, which was completed in 1869.
It would be possible to leave the story here and say that General Tso's Chicken simply honors a great personality, just as Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington, is honored in Beef Wellington; Pavel Stroganoff, a 19th-century Russian diplomat, in Beef Stroganoff; Count Charles de Nesselrode (another 19th-century Russian diplomat) in Nesselrode Pudding,; or Australian opera singer Nellie Melba in the dessert, Peach Melba. Indeed some believe it quite likely that the dish was whipped up for the general after some signal victory, just as Chicken Marengo was whipped up for Napoleon after he defeated the Austrians at Marengo on June 14, 1800.
Still, the recipe is not particularly original -- the ingredients are used in many stir-fry Chinese dishes -- and the dark meat chicken argues for a humbler origin. It's a poor man's dish, not a feast for a field marshal.
Is it possible that, struggling to carve out a new life in America under backbreaking adversities, and having heard of the sword skills of the remorseless General Tso (who had the top leaders of the Nian Rebellion executed with the proverbial "death of 10,000 cuts"), the overseas exiles indulged in some gallows-humor about their old enemy? That the chopped-up chicken dish may have gotten its name from the sliced and diced victims of Tso's grim reprisals?
This might conceivably explain why General Tso's Chicken is very much an overseas Chinese dish, filtering the hot, peppery taste of Hunan cuisine, through the sweetening process of Cantonese cooking. Most of the immigrants to America came from coastal regions: Shanghai and Canton.
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 01:52 Post subject:
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i think the first three paragraphs would have been enough to put a congressman asleep.
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Aluaeia
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 01:56 Post subject:
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I find it very entertaining to know of the history behind the food that I consume.
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TarewMonk
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 01:58 Post subject:
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Tyson Chicken > General Tso
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Aluaeia
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 02:01 Post subject:
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| TarewMonk wrote: | | Tyson Chicken > General Tso |
If you prefer greasy rotting meat to meat slathered in spices and sauce and mixed with fresh cooked vegetables.
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Luturb
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 02:01 Post subject:
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I dunno but I live in an area of the country with probably one of the largest chinese populations anywhere in the US. I eat lots of chinese food. I have never heard of General Tso's Chicken. I have had just plain old General's Chicken. I think I've had General Chang's chicken. But I've never heard of General Tso in a chinese restraunt.
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TarewMonk
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 02:05 Post subject:
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Tyson Chicken owns you... and I don't say that only because of my biased opinion due to the fact that my name is Tyson.
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 02:05 Post subject:
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chikity china the chinese chicken, all the way!
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Finigan
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 02:26 Post subject:
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| Luturb wrote: | | I dunno but I live in an area of the country with probably one of the largest chinese populations anywhere in the US. I eat lots of chinese food. I have never heard of General Tso's Chicken. I have had just plain old General's Chicken. I think I've had General Chang's chicken. But I've never heard of General Tso in a chinese restraunt. |
That's pretty strange, General Tso's chicken is a pretty popular dish. It's like Mc Donald's Big Mac for chinese food.
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Aluaeia
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 02:31 Post subject:
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| Luturb wrote: | | I dunno but I live in an area of the country with probably one of the largest chinese populations anywhere in the US. I eat lots of chinese food. I have never heard of General Tso's Chicken. I have had just plain old General's Chicken. I think I've had General Chang's chicken. But I've never heard of General Tso in a chinese restraunt. |
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atarom
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 05:41 Post subject:
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oohhhh general gao, you're a bloodthirsty foe, but your chicken is delectable!
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sinrakin
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 07:39 Post subject:
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Yeah I like General Gau chicken - is that the same as General Tso? Or are they like rivals?
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Gato
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 08:48 Post subject:
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Go Ghetto. Go Churches Chicken.
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Paden
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 08:54 Post subject:
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Pop Eyes chicken f00!
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Gato
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 09:25 Post subject:
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Bojangles Chicken Yo!
Betta check yo'sef foo! I got back-hand like John Macin'row.. I be smacking da b*****s..
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compusmack
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 09:30 Post subject:
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Chicken w/ Broccoli > General Tso Chicken.
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NickPSH
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 09:54 Post subject:
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FOOLS NO ONE DEFIES THE GENERALS CHICKEN
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Gato
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 10:19 Post subject:
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| Paden wrote: | | Pop Eyes chicken f00! |
looking at your dog, I get it now.. POP eyes
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Akronn
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 11:34 Post subject:
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Three cheers for MSG!
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sinrakin
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 11:38 Post subject:
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Apparently I have to do my own research. So as it turns out:
| Quote: | | Eileen Yin-Fei Lo calls General Tso’s Chicken “one of the most well known dishes of the transplanted Chinese restaurant.” She has seen it referred to as “not only the chicken of one General Tso, but of General Tsao, General Taso, General Toa, General Cho, General Gau, General Ching, General Kung, and General Tseng.” As if this list weren’t varied enough, Eileen even says she has also seen it attributed to a “General Ciao.” As you know, that’s an informal “goodbye” in Italian. |
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 12:17 Post subject:
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Next time you go to a Chinese restaurant look for a statuette of a large man with a beard and a giant halberd-like sword. He might be wearing green. That's Kuan Yu (Guan Yu in English), and he brings luck!
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Aenthi
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 13:22 Post subject:
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That was well written and interesting to read. You still scare me.
| Tizitchy Tinkergnome wrote: | | Have you ever been sitting in line and imagine something odd happening out of pure boredom. Perhaps the lady in front of you strips naked, you jump on her back piggy-back style, then mow everyone in front of you with a chainsaw down. |
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Goraz
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 15:45 Post subject:
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| Luturb wrote: | | I dunno but I live in an area of the country with probably one of the largest chinese populations anywhere in the US. I eat lots of chinese food. I have never heard of General Tso's Chicken. I have had just plain old General's Chicken. I think I've had General Chang's chicken. But I've never heard of General Tso in a chinese restraunt. |
You don't get out much then.
General Tsos chicken is one of the most popular platters for chinese food. Or maybe Generals chicken = shortened version
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sinrakin
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 15:47 Post subject:
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As a general, isn't it just a little bit of a slap to have a chicken dish named after you?
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Aluaeia
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Posted: 06/07/03 - 18:57 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | As a general, isn't it just a little bit of a slap to have a chicken dish named after you? |
As a corpse, does it matter?
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