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Docter
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 Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:11 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | I have no pity for poor white trash. Plain and simple.
If you're white in this country, were born in this country, there is no reason on Earth you shouldn't be doing ok for yourself.
You are not subjugated on a daily basis like most minorities.
Being white, I know you find this hard to believe. |
Wow...a bigot and a racist.
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Megalo
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:11 Post subject:
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But hey, Doc knows this one guy from the ghetto who made it!
So I'm obviously wrong.
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Docter
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:11 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | But hey, Doc knows this one guy from the ghetto who made it!
So I'm obviously wrong. |
If you don't apply yourself, you'll never get anywhere in life.
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lauren000
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:12 Post subject:
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I can't stand for more than 20 minutes at a time because I was born with deformed feet and there isn't a single government program to help me. Which is fine because I don't want a hand out, but it's f*****g irritating that the govt. bends over backwards just to help someone because they are *gasp* black.
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:14 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | Man, also....that way of thinking you guys have about everyone sitting on their ass collecting Gubment help is propoganda.
I know none of you actually have seen minorities doing such things, as you're terminally white, but trust me....
That's only a small majority.
Kinda like how you f**k all your relatives. I know it's only a handful, but it spreads stereotypes.
Come to "tha city" or any metropolitan area and you'll see it's not about sitting at home collecting checks. More like HAVING A HOME. But what would you know about that?
Keep that anus flapping. |
b******t.
You idiot.
http://www.hud.gov/offices/pih/programs/hcv/index.cfm
http://www.dhcr.state.ny.us/ohm/units/sec8/sec8admins.htm
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Megalo
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:14 Post subject:
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Doc,
That's a 4 story glass house you're living in.
Once again, I still recognize your rights. No matter how much of a piece of shit you are.
I don't hate the hillbilly race, I just don't think they have an excuse.
Kinda the same way you don't think African-Americans don't have one either.
That's irony.
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Docter
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:15 Post subject:
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A great injustice was done in this country when the color of your skin became a divider of our population. It's done nothing but damage our history. But there are those that wish this injustice to perpetuate itself for their own purposes.
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Megalo
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:18 Post subject:
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Who owned slaves again?
(you don't currently, do you?)
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Megalo
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:20 Post subject:
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But I get it...
What you're saying is that affirmative action should be done away with to stop perpetuating the racial lines.
But then who is going to suffer in the meantime?
Your beefy ass? No, you look like you make enough to feed yourself well.
The minorities are going to SUFFER if people like you have your way.
But who cares. It's not you, right?
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Docter
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:22 Post subject:
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Megalo, when you have something pertinent to bring to this discussion please do.
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lauren000
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:22 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | But I get it...
What you're saying is that affirmative action should be done away with to stop perpetuating the racial lines.
But then who is going to suffer in the meantime?
Your beefy ass? No, you look like you make enough to feed yourself well.
The minorities are going to SUFFER if people like you have your way.
But who cares. It's not you, right? |
minorities that can hack it wont be turned away?
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:22 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | Who owned slaves again?
(you don't currently, do you?) |
In a way I do. I don't call them slaves, I call them mexicans. Instead of having to supply housing and 3 squares, I just hand them 85 clams. They do anything I tell them to do, and save me from having to do all the shit work.
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:24 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: |
What you're saying is that affirmative action should be done away with to stop perpetuating the racial lines.
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Its on its way out now. I see it totally dismantled in the next 10 to 15 years.
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Megalo
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:26 Post subject:
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And that's fine.
It's a sucky system. Not sure you guys got that I don't like it.
Just that something better needs to come along before you trash it.
And that's exactly what will happen, unless Doc's clansmen take hold of the Gub-ment through the arms guaranteed them by the 2nd Amendment.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:29 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | Btw, for you folks not in California...
Community College is $11/credit unit.
You did not read that wrong. For a boatload of classes (12-15hrs) and books, it might cost you $300 a semester.
And I love the program. I've actually taken computer classes there myself. Wonderful program...looks like the melting pot of people we were supposed to be.
Lots of minority folks take advantage of it. Primarily hispanics in this region, but again, I plaud them.
If every state worked like this, we'd be off to a good start. |
alot of the hispanics are much more motivated than some of the minorities, and most of them have strong work ethic from family and such, most first generation hispanic immigrants are very very hard working people and even their children are hard working and many of them get out of poverty which is great, problem isnt immigrants like in CA, alot of them get up and out of poverty because they are just new not stupid. Problem is the ones who stay in the cities and have been there for generations, they dont have any work ethic and they dont have a good suport system. Maybe I see it differently on the east coast but nearly every 3rd generation poor person is lazy, the first generation ones arent though and I bet you have alot of more of them and 2nd generation than third in CA still. Which is why so many blacks being poor for many many generations are lazy and dont try to better themselves, there are many causes for it but thats the net effect.
Also megalo your very nearly rascist yourself, white poor people dont need help as much as other poor people? BS son I dont know what white priviledge you think still exists but there isnt any. Everyone tries to hire equally now pretty much, education tries to accept equally. If anything the white poor kid who misses out on affirmative action but still has all the disadvantages of the black poor kid is worse off. White priviledge only exists in that the middle class does a better job its raising children than the lower class, so their kids grow up and can go to college and beyond because they are better at what they do, because they are genuinily superior to the minority alternative, not because anyone favors them.
As far as free college goes I dont know about that, I think that people should be required to work for it, if you want your college free fine, volunteer 120 hours a month to pay society for it.
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Docter
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:30 Post subject:
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How much more of a bigot do you want to make yourself out to be Megalo??? Seems you are doing a good job of it so far, keep it up and you might make Bigot of the Year.
What's so hard to understand that the best person for the job, should be the most qualified???
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Megalo
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:32 Post subject:
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I never said I was perfect.
But again, using "racist" doesn't really apply here.
I do not hate white trash or hillbillies or rednecks or ****whatever other term I choose to use to show them how much homosexuals like being called slang terms****.
I do not hate them on sight. I do not think they should have any less rights than I. I let every person from every walk of life prove to me they are a piece of shit before I deem them one.
I TOLERATE them. Much the same way I expect people to TOLERATE others.
Hope that's clear enough.
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:33 Post subject:
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People like Doc do not.
He is a bigot. I do like how I taught him that word and how he still throws it around in the wrong connotation.
You're bright, fluffy.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:33 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | Who owned slaves again?
(you don't currently, do you?) |
h**o sapiens who have been dead for atleast 100 years.
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Docter
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:33 Post subject:
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You preach tolerance, but you don't practise it...you are what you fear.
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lauren000
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:36 Post subject:
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a leg up doesn't mean a hand down!
Discrimination in the past doesn't make it right in the future!
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Tolanin
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:40 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | I never said I was perfect.
But again, using "racist" doesn't really apply here.
I do not hate white trash or hillbillies or rednecks or ****whatever other term I choose to use to show them how much homosexuals like being called slang terms****.
I do not hate them on sight. I do not think they should have any less rights than I. I let every person from every walk of life prove to me they are a piece of shit before I deem them one.
I TOLERATE them. Much the same way I expect people to TOLERATE others.
Hope that's clear enough. |
you musta missed the part where you said poor minorities should have the right to more than poor whites. [/b]
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 23:43 Post subject:
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That's just it Tolanin, Megalo rants and raves against a system he sees as injust...yet he only wants the power to shift in the US and then wants to "put down the man". Hypocracy at it's finest. 
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Ashley
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Posted: 03/21/04 - 00:10 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | Scholarships, jobs, and all advancement should be based on the persons character and their ability to perform, not their skin color or who their parents were or what injustice was done to their ancestors long ago.
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wow Tolanin.. most of the time i disagree with you pretty solidly on issues, but i have to admit that im 100% behind almost everything you've said here (minus the gay part).
Everyone should be judged on who they are as a person, and their capability, i personally dont give a shit what color or ethnicity they are.
Megalo... you're beginning to contradict yourself. a partial solution that i think would be MUCH more successful and relevant to our country would be more emphasis put on advantages for low-income people, rather than exclusively white/black/hispanic ethnicities. I donno, i just happen to strongly believe that everyone is equal overall, and should be treated as such. Lots of minorities are stupid, lots of people in the majority are stupid- they should be treated in accordance, neither better than the other. If one year a college's admissions accept 17% minorities based on qualifications alone, and the next only 10%.. then it should be left that way.. perhaps evaluated at the base of the problem and a solution should be attempted, but on the other hand, if one year the number increases to 25% minorities, i have no problem with that either. Basically, i think there was a time and a place for all of the affirmative action crap, and that time is over with now. At this point its holding the country back as a whole rather than progressing it. People need to get out of the mindset that we're different because of our ethnicities. I hate to cliche.. but its only f*****g skin deep- who the person is, and what they can do should be the basis for what they recieve.
best short term solution: dont even have ethnicity/gender a question in college applications.. have the admissions accept the most highly qualified students without any knowledge of their backgrounds (obviously they'd need to know eventually.. just not at the time of admission)
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Tolanin
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Posted: 03/21/04 - 00:36 Post subject:
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I agree with hunnybunny on what she said, though personally I think its important to remember your ethnic heritage and remember your history and past and be proud of who you are and where you came from. The ethnic groups have had different pasts but now we all share a future. I am really not sure if people could handle seeing the differences in ethnicity and not claiming one is better. I think color blind society isnt all that perfect, personally I think the society that sees a black person as a black person but thinks "your black and your history is different from mine but no better or worse in the end" would be ideal. I have serious doubts about whether people could handle it though, I kinda doubt it, it always comes back to whose d**k is bigger eheh so maybe its better just to try not to acknowledge people as different at all. Though 'different but not better or worse' is still the holy grail of it to me.
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Posted: 03/21/04 - 00:39 Post subject:
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I think it's funny when someone is like, "I'm not mexican I'm chilean!" or some shit, and I say "yeah well I'm not white I'm EUROPEAN!"
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Posted: 03/21/04 - 00:44 Post subject:
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| lauren000 wrote: | | I think it's funny when someone is like, "I'm not mexican I'm chilean!" or some shit, and I say "yeah well I'm not white I'm EUROPEAN!" |
that might make sense if you had called them a hispanic and they had said they were not they were chilean. But considering mexican is a person from that region not an ethnic group =/.. more like if he called you a german and you said no way I am itallian or whatever.
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Posted: 03/21/04 - 00:49 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | lauren000 wrote: | | I think it's funny when someone is like, "I'm not mexican I'm chilean!" or some shit, and I say "yeah well I'm not white I'm EUROPEAN!" |
that might make sense if you had called them a hispanic and they had said they were not they were chilean. But considering mexican is a person from that region not an ethnic group =/.. more like if he called you a german and you said no way I am itallian or whatever. |
you know what I mean tho  people who are like "I'm not black, I'm african" ohh well ok I'm sorry I haven't achieved the correct pc level.
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Posted: 03/21/04 - 00:49 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | I agree with hunnybunny on what she said, though personally I think its important to remember your ethnic heritage and remember your history and past and be proud of who you are and where you came from. The ethnic groups have had different pasts but now we all share a future. I am really not sure if people could handle seeing the differences in ethnicity and not claiming one is better. I think color blind society isnt all that perfect, personally I think the society that sees a black person as a black person but thinks "your black and your history is different from mine but no better or worse in the end" would be ideal. I have serious doubts about whether people could handle it though, I kinda doubt it, it always comes back to whose d**k is bigger eheh so maybe its better just to try not to acknowledge people as different at all. Though 'different but not better or worse' is still the holy grail of it to me. |
hmm.. i have to agree and disagree. I lean more toward a colorblind society, though i see what you mean with being proud of where you've come from etc. Its the same basic goal in the end with both views: everyone should be treated with decency/respect and equality. I guess i think about some things too logically.. but the way i see it- if we all stayed where we are for a million years or so.. (neglecting the issue of modernization) everyone in the US would probably be brownish.. all of the while people in Africa would be black, all of the black people in Europe would be white, and everyone in Asia would have their Asian looks, depending on which part- as a result of evolution. From this train of thought, ethnicities are nothing more than an adaptation, and i guess thats how i view them... which is why im more biased for colorblindness  Both views essentially accomplish the same thing.. just from different perspectives
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Posted: 03/21/04 - 00:55 Post subject:
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| hunnybunny wrote: | | Tolanin wrote: | | I agree with hunnybunny on what she said, though personally I think its important to remember your ethnic heritage and remember your history and past and be proud of who you are and where you came from. The ethnic groups have had different pasts but now we all share a future. I am really not sure if people could handle seeing the differences in ethnicity and not claiming one is better. I think color blind society isnt all that perfect, personally I think the society that sees a black person as a black person but thinks "your black and your history is different from mine but no better or worse in the end" would be ideal. I have serious doubts about whether people could handle it though, I kinda doubt it, it always comes back to whose d**k is bigger eheh so maybe its better just to try not to acknowledge people as different at all. Though 'different but not better or worse' is still the holy grail of it to me. |
hmm.. i have to agree and disagree. I lean more toward a colorblind society, though i see what you mean with being proud of where you've come from etc. Its the same basic goal in the end with both views: everyone should be treated with decency/respect and equality. I guess i think about some things too logically.. but the way i see it- if we all stayed where we are for a million years or so.. (neglecting the issue of modernization) everyone in the US would probably be brownish.. all of the while people in Africa would be black, all of the black people in Europe would be white, and everyone in Asia would have their Asian looks, depending on which part- as a result of evolution. From this train of thought, ethnicities are nothing more than an adaptation, and i guess thats how i view them... which is why im more biased for colorblindness Both views essentially accomplish the same thing.. just from different perspectives |
ya eventually we will prolly have a common culture, but what I was tryin to say is that we shouldnt get so colorblind that we forget our individual history. Maybe color blind would be ok but not former nationality blind? I dont know
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