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Frax
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Occulis
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Whatever reported, or manager of a reporting team, decided to ask this question really needs to re-evaluate his grip on Ways To Spend Time.
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 11:42 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | A CNN / USA Today / Gallup poll released Tuesday shows just 17 percent of respondents said they blame Bush a "great deal" for the shortage. An additional 18 percent said they blame the president a "moderate amount." |
hahah. I blame our education system for failing 35% of the people polled. 
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 11:48 Post subject:
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I hit my finger with a hammer while hanging a picture frame. I blame George Bush and I'm changing my vote to Kerry. f*****s.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 12:24 Post subject:
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If the drug company hadn't sucked, there wouldn't be a problem. What does this have to do with Bush? Are they saying he was supposed to somehow get more from somewhere else?
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themy
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 12:41 Post subject:
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Kerry was saying it was Bush's fault for not having a reserve of flu vaccines (lol.. since they have to change them every year). And Kerry said that if he were president instead of Bush right now there would be no shortage because he would have had these vaccine reserves and we would all be fine and dandy. Kerry also said that he would have bought vaccines from Canada. But, the leading pharmacudical company out of Canada said they would not sell vaccines to the U.S. since our consumption is so high. (IE we would drive the price up)
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 12:44 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | | Kerry was saying it was Bush's fault for not having a reserve of flu vaccines (lol.. since they have to change them every year). And Kerry said that if he were president instead of Bush right now there would be no shortage because he would have had these vaccine reserves and we would all be fine and dandy. Kerry also said that he would have bought vaccines from Canada. But, the leading pharmacudical company out of Canada said they would not sell vaccines to the U.S. since our consumption is so high. (IE we would drive the price up) |
Kerry would have invaded Canada to get the vaccine.
| Star Trek wrote: | | "Then there will be no vaccine and no Lt. Yar!" |
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OldBen1Kenobi
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Posted: 10/28/04 - 00:32 Post subject: but he is responsible for this
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this innocent girl had to suffer, all because of WMD's that didn't exist.
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Psink
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Posted: 10/28/04 - 00:38 Post subject:
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I had to suffer because of that picture in your sig
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OldBen1Kenobi
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Posted: 10/28/04 - 00:57 Post subject:
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| Psink wrote: | | I had to suffer because of that picture in your sig |
sorry, that pic just puzzles me.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 10/28/04 - 01:38 Post subject:
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I think it's the marriage of two lesbians, and the black guy is the proud father.
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Vengar_OO
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Posted: 10/28/04 - 05:15 Post subject: -==-
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If Kerry boasts that nothing would ever have gone wrong if he were president, I only have to assume he has been an awesome senator.
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compusmack
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Posted: 10/28/04 - 10:59 Post subject:
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| OldBen1Kenobi wrote: | | Psink wrote: | | I had to suffer because of that picture in your sig |
sorry, that pic just puzzles me. |
That pic violates size rules. You'll be hearing from me via PM.
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OldBen1Kenobi
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Posted: 10/30/04 - 21:00 Post subject:
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| compusmack wrote: | | OldBen1Kenobi wrote: | | Psink wrote: | | I had to suffer because of that picture in your sig |
sorry, that pic just puzzles me. |
That pic violates size rules. You'll be hearing from me via PM. |
is this pic ok?
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Banzai
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Posted: 10/30/04 - 21:09 Post subject:
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I'll admit that what people spin into politics can be ridiculous.
Bush did everything called on him regarding this. There was a contract bid to make the vaccine and the contractor f****d up. End of story.
It's shot gunning every little hot topic into the political arena that contributes to the undecided voter mentality.
I didn't read where Kerry blamed it on Bush but I don't doubt it was hit on.
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kbarr
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Posted: 10/30/04 - 21:13 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | I'll admit that what people spin into politics can be ridiculous.
Bush did everything called on him regarding this. There was a contract bid to make the vaccine and the contractor f****d up. End of story.
It's shot gunning every little hot topic into the political arena that contributes to the IDIOT voter mentality.
I didn't read where Kerry blamed it on Bush but I don't doubt it was hit on. |
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Taadieri
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Posted: 10/30/04 - 22:52 Post subject:
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http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_1018e.pdf
John Kerry's plan for dealing with the current crisis.
No purchases from Canada, no reserves of flu vaccine, no magical fixes. Just some good common sense steps to make as many doses available to high-risk patients as possible. Steps the Bush administration has been slow to take even though they were warned months before the shortage developed that there were potential problems.
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Ikkan
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 00:28 Post subject:
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| Taadieri wrote: | http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_1018e.pdf
John Kerry's plan for dealing with the current crisis.
No purchases from Canada, no reserves of flu vaccine, no magical fixes. Just some good common sense steps to make as many doses available to high-risk patients as possible. Steps the Bush administration has been slow to take even though they were warned months before the shortage developed that there were potential problems. |
BUT KERRY WANTS ALL MEDICINE TO COME FROM CANADIA!!11!111!1
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Frax
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 08:46 Post subject:
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| Taadieri wrote: | http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_1018e.pdf
John Kerry's plan for dealing with the current crisis.
No purchases from Canada, no reserves of flu vaccine, no magical fixes. Just some good common sense steps to make as many doses available to high-risk patients as possible. Steps the Bush administration has been slow to take even though they were warned months before the shortage developed that there were potential problems. |
what a load of b******t. He can't do 99% of that without major expenditures of tax money, or without some changes to several laws.
There was absolutely nothing anyone could do about doubling the flu vaccines available due to the length of time it takes to create them. Don't fall for the smoke and mirrors :/
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Taadieri
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 23:14 Post subject:
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b******t!
It takes no new laws or government spending to provide coordination between private businesses that bought vaccine doses for their employees before the crisis developed and public health organizations that can get those doses to high risk patients.
Many of these businesses have canceled scheduled vaccinations clinics because most of their employees are not at high risk, but have literally no way to get the vaccine to those who do need them. Other businesses are not willing to donate the vaccine, but could be persuaded to sell them to government agencies if the money was provided. The money needed for this could probably be found within existing government budgets.
These steps would not magically solve the crisis, but would go a long way toward ensuring that the most vulnerable patients got vaccinated.
Developing national stockpiles of anti-viral medications (not vaccines) to reduce the deaths and other serious complications among vulnerable patients that do not get vaccinated in time is another step that could significantly reduce the effects of the crisis for a relatively small cost. This step might require congressional authorization, but the cost would be in the millions of dollars, not billions and would probably pay for itself by avoiding Medicare and Medicaid bills for extended hospitalization of that some of these patients would need if these treatments are not available.
All of these steps would be most effective if the planning for them had been done ahead of time. So once again the question is why didn't the Bush administration do any of this planning in view of the repeated warnings they had that the vaccine supplies were dependant on fewer and fewer suppliers and that one of the two remaining suppliers was having quality control problems?
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sinrakin
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 00:16 Post subject:
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What annoys me is Tommy Thompson, the idiot secretary of health and human services or some such thing, keeps giving press conferences saying "don't worry; there's plenty of vaccine for the people who need it, there's no crisis, yadda yadda". But I'm high risk, since I have kids under six months old, and I can't find a flu shot anywhere. Checked all the hot lines and clinics, my own doctors, friends who are doctors: nobody has them.
But the Bush Administration keeps insisting there isn't a problem, just like they do about everything. Just keep lying and lying and lying and maybe people will eventually believe you appears to be the entire Bush strategy.
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kbarr
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 00:30 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | What annoys me is Tommy Thompson, the idiot secretary of health and human services or some such thing, keeps giving press conferences saying "don't worry; there's plenty of vaccine for the people who need it, there's no crisis, yadda yadda". But I'm high risk, since I have kids under six months old, and I can't find a flu shot anywhere. Checked all the hot lines and clinics, my own doctors, friends who are doctors: nobody has them.
But the Bush Administration keeps insisting there isn't a problem, just like they do about everything. Just keep lying and lying and lying and maybe people will eventually believe you appears to be the entire Bush strategy. |
Important people get the shots.
Know your place, you scumbag.
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