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lotek
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 Posted: 11/05/04 - 12:22 Post subject: Whats worse, homosexuality or polygamy?
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Since polygamy comes up in every discussion of homosexuality, im wondering whats "worse" homosexuality, or heterosexual polygamy?
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 12:28 Post subject:
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They're on the same level.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 12:30 Post subject:
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Q) What's the punishment for polygamy?
A) More than one wife!
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Scrabler
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 12:32 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | They're on the same level. |
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Spiritz
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 12:35 Post subject:
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Lol.
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Vekril
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 12:40 Post subject:
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Polygamy is a choice made by an adult.
It is impossible to argue that homosexuality is a choice for the overwhelming majority of gays. Whether it is the product of a defective gene, or a form of mental illness as Confused declares, or some other cause it is undeniably something people are born with and do not actively choose. I fail to see how there is so much hate for it. Religious blindness and ignorance I guess.
In purely theoretical terms, as long as all parties involved are consenting adults neither should be illegal.
However polygamy often involves young women getting married to much older men without a full choice in the matter, then trapped into the situation by being impregnated (Utah). In other cultures (Arab for example) polygamy tends to coincide with vastly limited women's rights. So I would say polygamy is worse in practice if not in theory.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 12:49 Post subject:
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I agree with Vekril.
Is it possible to be against polygamy btw, but still engage in threesomes with two girls, as long as you don't all get married? 
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lotek
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 13:05 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | I agree with Vekril.
Is it possible to be against polygamy btw, but still engage in threesomes with two girls, as long as you don't all get married? |
nope
and of course were talking consenting adults only here.
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 13:08 Post subject:
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| Vekril wrote: | Polygamy is a choice made by an adult.
It is impossible to argue that homosexuality is a choice for the overwhelming majority of gays. Whether it is the product of a defective gene, or a form of mental illness as Confused declares, or some other cause it is undeniably something people are born with and do not actively choose. I fail to see how there is so much hate for it. Religious blindness and ignorance I guess.
In purely theoretical terms, as long as all parties involved are consenting adults neither should be illegal.
However polygamy often involves young women getting married to much older men without a full choice in the matter, then trapped into the situation by being impregnated (Utah). In other cultures (Arab for example) polygamy tends to coincide with vastly limited women's rights. So I would say polygamy is worse in practice if not in theory. |
I interpreted the question as whether gay marriage or polygomous marriage is worse. I think polygamy is worse than homosexuality, because I contend that homosexuality is madness and therefore beyond the immediate control of the homosexual. Polygamy is a willful act. I find homosexual marriage (which is a willful act) to be on the same level as polygamy. I also find a homosexual act to be bad, but not as bad as polygamy because it isn't an intentional attempt to destroy something.
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Starks
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 13:29 Post subject:
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Vekril is right about homosexuality. Discrimination against homosexuality is a form of prejudice. Acceptance is very important in being a human being. Hence, the most ubiquitous statement that God loves us all. If you are Christian and do not believe the previous statement, then you are not Christian.
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 13:32 Post subject:
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| Starks wrote: | | Vekril is right about homosexuality. Discrimination against homosexuality is a form of prejudice. Acceptance is very important in being a human being. Hence, the most ubiquitous statement that God loves us all. If you are Christian and do not believe the previous statement, then you are not Christian. |
Homosexuality is a behavior that is considered evil by Christians. That's like saying Christians need to love evil. And why is it so difficult for leftists to tell the difference between behavior and a physical trait?
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Starks
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 13:43 Post subject:
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What is so hard to understand about the new testament? Open your bible up and read the second half. Do yourself that favor. Learn to accept and be compassionate. Homosexuality is not considered "evil" btw. But in light of your post, yes Jesus even loves evil people.
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Vekril
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 13:56 Post subject:
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Confused - Can straight people have anal ****? Gay people need some way to physically have ****, and neither has a vagina (or a d**k in the case of lesbians). Are they supposed to be held to a higher standard than us straight folk and abstain?
Personally the thought of sticking my d**k up a hairy ass repulses me, but if 2 other people want to do it -- it doesn't affect me as long as I don't have to watch.
As for teh whole Christian Jesus thing -- lots of people in this country aren't Christians, so any 1 religious dogma has no place dictating societal policies.
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 13:59 Post subject:
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| Starks wrote: | | What is so hard to understand about the new testament? Open your bible up and read the second half. Do yourself that favor. Learn to accept and be compassionate. Homosexuality is not considered "evil" btw. But in light of your post, yes Jesus even loves evil people. |
But he doesn't love evil acts. Christianity was novel in that is seperated the sin from the sinner. So while no good Christian should hate a homosexual, every good Christian should hate homosexuality.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 14:04 Post subject:
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| Vekril wrote: | Confused - Can straight people have anal ****? Gay people need some way to physically have ****, and neither has a vagina (or a d**k in the case of lesbians). Are they supposed to be held to a higher standard than us straight folk and abstain?
Personally the thought of sticking my d**k up a hairy ass repulses me, but if 2 other people want to do it -- it doesn't affect me as long as I don't have to watch.
As for teh whole Christian Jesus thing -- lots of people in this country aren't Christians, so any 1 religious dogma has no place dictating societal policies. |
No, they shouldn't be gay.
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 14:05 Post subject:
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| Vekril wrote: | | Confused - Can straight people have anal ****? Gay people need some way to physically have ****, and neither has a vagina (or a d**k in the case of lesbians). Are they supposed to be held to a higher standard than us straight folk and abstain? |
I'm not against gay marriage for religious reasons. I find the concept of anal **** pretty gross too, whether it be gay or straight. My objection over gay marriage comes from the fact that it attacks marriage, which is a universal and good institution. I honestly don't give a damn if some f*g puts his willy up some other guys ass (just don't b***h to the government when you get AIDS). But I refuse to be forced into recognizing that it is acceptable behavior by a group of people trying to force their (im)moral (ir)religious dogma on me.
| Vekril wrote: | | As for teh whole Christian Jesus thing -- lots of people in this country aren't Christians, so any 1 religious dogma has no place dictating societal policies. |
As I already pointed out, marriage is universal and societal in nature. It is also religious in nature. The fact that this duality exists does not make it a religious issue.
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Abi
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 15:43 Post subject:
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Ignorance abounds....
One day confused .. you will join the rest of us .. in the real world ...
f****n d*****t...
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Abi
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 15:47 Post subject:
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Oh and in reply to the original thread topic...
DEFINATLY Homosexuality .. f**k all those useless f**s .. ship em all to an island together so they can infect each other and die!!!
I nearly threw up typing that .. even for sarcastic value ...
I hate to break this to you, Confused .. but I would be willing to bet whatever bible thumping church you attend has AT LEAST 1 or 2 gay people in it  We're everywhere .. you will NEVER escape us 
Confused and Scrab make me embarrased to call myself a Republican sometimes.. namely when they show their close-minded ignorance on issues like this... Good thing they don't represent ALL of us
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Scrabler
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:00 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | Oh and in reply to the original thread topic...
DEFINATLY Homosexuality .. f**k all those useless f**s .. ship em all to an island together so they can infect each other and die!!!
I nearly threw up typing that .. even for sarcastic value ...
I hate to break this to you, Confused .. but I would be willing to bet whatever bible thumping church you attend has AT LEAST 1 or 2 gay people in it We're everywhere .. you will NEVER escape us
Confused and Scrab make me embarrased to call myself a Republican sometimes.. namely when they show their close-minded ignorance on issues like this... Good thing they don't represent ALL of us |
Baby, stop talking and put the c**k back in your mouth..
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:01 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | Oh and in reply to the original thread topic...
DEFINATLY Homosexuality .. f**k all those useless f**s .. ship em all to an island together so they can infect each other and die!!!
I nearly threw up typing that .. even for sarcastic value ...
I hate to break this to you, Confused .. but I would be willing to bet whatever bible thumping church you attend has AT LEAST 1 or 2 gay people in it We're everywhere .. you will NEVER escape us
Confused and Scrab make me embarrased to call myself a Republican sometimes.. namely when they show their close-minded ignorance on issues like this... Good thing they don't represent ALL of us |
I hate to break it to you f*g, but the last time I went to church was over a year ago.
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:01 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | Ignorance abounds....
One day confused .. you will join the rest of us .. in the real world ...
f****n d*****t... |
Sir..I believe you are the one who dips in shit.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:05 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | I hate to break it to you f*g, but the last time I went to church was over a year ago. |
Isn't not going to church on Easter and Christmas a mortal sin? Or is that just for Catholics? Let me guess, you're a Presbyterian? or Baptist?
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Abi
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:05 Post subject:
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and you are still this brainwashed? Man they got you good...
It's really disheartening though ... On most issues I couldnt agree with you more .. but you are so blatantly moronic on any gay issue that it totally takes away your credibility from valid issues ... perhaps you will grow up one day and learn this.. but I doubt it..
Oh and I fully expect some lame one line response like "Die f*g" so don't bother posting that, but I'd welcome a well thought out response
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:15 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | I hate to break it to you f*g, but the last time I went to church was over a year ago. |
Isn't not going to church on Easter and Christmas a mortal sin? Or is that just for Catholics? Let me guess, you're a Presbyterian? or Baptist? |
I'm Catholic and it's considered a mortal sin not to honor the sabath. That's different than not going to church.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:20 Post subject:
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I haven't been Catholic for a long time (ever since I told the priest in confession that I wasn't a hundred percent positive I was sorry for all of my sins, and he said "what are you doing here then", and I said "good question"). But I remember something referred to as the "Easter Duty", which was the obligation to receive Communion during the Easter season, and I'm pretty sure missing it was considered a mortal sin.
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:24 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | and you are still this brainwashed? Man they got you good...
It's really disheartening though ... On most issues I couldnt agree with you more .. but you are so blatantly moronic on any gay issue that it totally takes away your credibility from valid issues ... perhaps you will grow up one day and learn this.. but I doubt it..
Oh and I fully expect some lame one line response like "Die f*g" so don't bother posting that, but I'd welcome a well thought out response |
Who are "They"? You sound like an X-Factor episode. The fact is I'm not a Bible-thumper. I let all ou idiots carry on about that, though, because I think it's funny to see all the bigotry ooze from your hypocritic pores. I haven't even let on that I was. In college I was extremely confrontational with the born-again crowd (as Catholics, who tend to be more temperate, usually are). You all just make idiotic assumptions whenever someone disagrees with you. My political opinions have a moral base (because even though I'm not fanatical, I am a believing Catholic), but that comes from culture...not dogma. But carry on with your theories. I find them funny.
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:26 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | I haven't been Catholic for a long time (ever since I told the priest in confession that I wasn't a hundred percent positive I was sorry for all of my sins, and he said "what are you doing here then", and I said "good question"). But I remember something referred to as the "Easter Duty", which was the obligation to receive Communion during the Easter season, and I'm pretty sure missing it was considered a mortal sin. |
There are only 10 mortal sins. The priest was right. Why would you ask forgiveness for something you're not sorry for. Religion is a freedom and is not compulsory in this country. You should not be Catholic.
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Rennol
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:38 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | Ignorance abounds....
One day confused .. you will join the rest of us .. in the real world ...
f****n d*****t... |
you should replace confused with George W Bush, they think alike
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Confused
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:40 Post subject:
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| Rennol wrote: | | Abi wrote: | Ignorance abounds....
One day confused .. you will join the rest of us .. in the real world ...
f****n d*****t... |
you should replace confused with George W Bush, they think alike |
Great minds often do.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:42 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | There are only 10 mortal sins. The priest was right. Why would you ask forgiveness for something you're not sorry for. Religion is a freedom and is not compulsory in this country. You should not be Catholic. |
Obviously, that's why I'm not any more. But I'm curious how you can be a Catholic, and a militant one at that, but fail to fulfill your Easter Duty:
| Quote: | | Code of Canon Law: Canon 920 §1: "All the faithful, after they have been initiated into the Most Holy Eucharist, are bound by the obligation of receiving Communion at least once a year." §2: "This precept must be fulfilled during the Easter season unless it is fulfilled for a just cause at some other time during the year." In the United States the Easter season, for purposes of fulfilling this precept, has traditionally been understood to extend from the First Sunday of Lent until Trinity Sunday. |
Or do you claim to have received the Eucharst without "going to Church"?
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