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Silvermouse
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 12 Oct 2002
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 Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:49 Post subject:
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It's easier to understand gay people if you have a relative/friend that you've thought of as straight their whole lives, and suddenly they come out of the closet. That's when you realize that gays are just like the rest of us up until their night life.
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Abi
RealPoor Sensei
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:52 Post subject:
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Believe it or not .. IRL I'm not totally blatantly gay .. most of the people I meet are suprised when they hear I am ... most of my friends are straight and didn't know about me for some time .. and nothing changed when they found out .. as it should be..
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Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
Posts: 6730
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:54 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | There are only 10 mortal sins. The priest was right. Why would you ask forgiveness for something you're not sorry for. Religion is a freedom and is not compulsory in this country. You should not be Catholic. |
Obviously, that's why I'm not any more. But I'm curious how you can be a Catholic, and a militant one at that, but fail to fulfill your Easter Duty:
| Quote: | | Code of Canon Law: Canon 920 §1: "All the faithful, after they have been initiated into the Most Holy Eucharist, are bound by the obligation of receiving Communion at least once a year." §2: "This precept must be fulfilled during the Easter season unless it is fulfilled for a just cause at some other time during the year." In the United States the Easter season, for purposes of fulfilling this precept, has traditionally been understood to extend from the First Sunday of Lent until Trinity Sunday. |
Or do you claim to have received the Eucharst without "going to Church"? |
I'm normal. You just perceive me as militant because you're militant. The country agrees with me. That's why Bush won. 
And I actually take that back. I did go to church Easter this year, but it was a Methodist church (with my fiance's family). I typically go on Easter and Christmas (missed Christmas last year). I used to go to church more frequently, but not so much since I moved to Atlanta.
I never said I was a good Catholic (and the above does not count as a mortal sin). I have just as many failings as the next guy. I refuse to accept that moral failings are morally good, though. That is the point that someone becomes evil.
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Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 16:57 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | | Believe it or not .. IRL I'm not totally blatantly gay .. most of the people I meet are suprised when they hear I am ... most of my friends are straight and didn't know about me for some time .. and nothing changed when they found out .. as it should be.. |
I'd actually not eliminate you as a friend irl for your homosexuality (your personality is another story!), but I would never accept any of your homosexual actions as "right".
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Abi
RealPoor Sensei
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 17:09 Post subject:
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Why do I waste my time with you ... lol ... I'll learn eventually I guess 
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Silvermouse
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 12 Oct 2002
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 17:16 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | | Believe it or not .. IRL I'm not totally blatantly gay .. most of the people I meet are suprised when they hear I am ... most of my friends are straight and didn't know about me for some time .. and nothing changed when they found out .. as it should be.. |
Many people have the mistaken idea that the queens they see on TV and the Village People represent all gay people. My buddy doesn't "look" gay in the least.
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Starks
Toomuchtimeonhands
Joined: 17 Oct 2002
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 23:37 Post subject:
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The Father of my church once said, if you want to see a bunch of sinners, come to Christmas Eve and Easter mass.
Great Minds also get a 2.0 in college too! If Confused even went to college.
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Lzert
Total Newbie
Joined: 17 Oct 2002
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Posted: 11/06/04 - 12:20 Post subject:
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| Starks wrote: | The Father of my church once said, if you want to see a bunch of sinners, come to Christmas Eve and Easter mass.
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That's what Christians need to understand. We are all naturally sinners and have a sinful nature  You should never hate another person, since you yourself are as bad or worse than the guy next to you. Luckily Christ sacrificed so that we might be forgiven when we repent.
Doesnt mean we don't have the right to fight for ideals we believe in though.
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Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
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Posted: 11/06/04 - 13:58 Post subject:
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| Lzert wrote: | | Starks wrote: | The Father of my church once said, if you want to see a bunch of sinners, come to Christmas Eve and Easter mass.
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That's what Christians need to understand. We are all naturally sinners and have a sinful nature You should never hate another person, since you yourself are as bad or worse than the guy next to you. Luckily Christ sacrificed so that we might be forgiven when we repent.
Doesnt mean we don't have the right to fight for ideals we believe in though. |
Yeah, I never really understood the screaming fundamentalists yelling about "sinners". Christianity contends that sin is inescapable and only Christ was without it. If your pastor claims that he or anyone in that congregation does not sin, then he does not even follow the basic tenets of Christianity. I also don't understand leftists calling Christians hypocrites for sinning, because every real Christian admits to it. One of my problem with leftists is their attempt to redefine bad (i.e. sinful) behavior as good, or at least "not bad". They want to eliminate the concept of evil, which really couldn't be more evil.
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Dyers
Sir Postalot
Joined: 26 Oct 2002
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Posted: 11/06/04 - 14:38 Post subject:
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There are three Greek words used in the New Testament to denote repentance. (1.)
The verb _metamelomai_ is used of a change of mind, such as to produce regret or
even remorse on account of sin, but not necessarily a change of heart. This word
is used with reference to the repentance of Judas (Matt. 27:3).
(2.) Metanoeo,meaning to change one's mind and purpose, as the result of after knowledge.
This verb, with (3) the cognate noun _metanoia_, is used of true repentance, a
change of mind and purpose and life, to which remission of sin is promised.
Evangelical repentance consists of (1) a true sense of one's own guilt and
sinfulness; (2) an apprehension of God's mercy in Christ; (3) an actual hatred
of sin (Ps. 119:128; Job 42:5, 6; 2 Cor. 7:10) and turning from it to God; and
(4) a persistent endeavour after a holy life in a walking with God in the way
of his commandments. The true penitent is conscious of guilt (Ps. 51:4, 9), of
pollution (51:5, 7, 10), and of helplessness (51:11; 109:21, 22). Thus he
apprehends himself to be just what God has always seen him to be and declares
him to be. But repentance comprehends not only such a sense of sin, but also an
apprehension of mercy, without which there can be no true repentance (Ps. 51:1;
130:4).
Yes, none of us are perfect and without sin. The bottom line is: Do you embrace your sin or do you despise that sin? Do you feel bad when you sin or not?
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