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What would you have to be thinking to be Larry?

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Occulis
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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 16:08    Post subject: What would you have to be thinking to be Larry? Reply with quote

Larry is a webmaster who has, in his words, "an excellent skill set" and "a love of programming." Larry, as far as Joe knows, is a very good web application developer - meaning he writes CGI apps or scripted languages for web sites. He codes, he doesn't just do layout. Or so he says.
Joe is also a webmaster.
Larry and Joe work together.

Larry: "Joe, please come help me with setting up AWStats. Does it work with IIS?"
Joe: "No problem. It sure does."
Larry: "Great. When can you be here?"
Joe: "Well, I don't have time right now. Just install ActivePerl and AWStats and I'll help you edit the config file once you've told it where your log files are."
Larry: "Okay, cool."

*2 hours later*

Larry: "Hey, Joe. I'm kinda lost. How do you set this thing up?"
Joe: "You ran the installer, right?"
Larry: "Yeah. Now what?"
Joe: "RTFM." Ha ha!
Larry: "Huh?"
Joe: "Uh... check the docs."
Larry: "Yeah, I've been through them. Where is the config?"
Joe: "Ah, I guess that's kind of tricky." *explains where config file is - it's in kind of a weird place, but the place is documented*
Larry: "Okay, cool. Uh... it says where is your log file? How do I know that?"
Joe: "Well, since we're just testing this on your laptop, you'll probably need to just get a copy of the log file from your web server."
Larry: "Web server... " *clicks the screen* "Uh... that's under control panel, right? Under Internet Options?"
Joe: "Huh? No, man. No. Unless you're running IIS from this laptop?"
Larry: "I uh... I don't think so?"
Joe: "You probably aren't. Who hosts yourdomain.com?"
Larry: "Oh! Uh... (name of place)."
Joe: "Okay, just get the IIS log from them."
Larry: "Okay. Uh... how do I do that?"



What would you have to be thinking, as Larry, to tell people you are an experienced programmer?
Answer in essay format, no more than 250 words. You have 5 minutes to complete this exam.
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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 16:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Absolutely f*****g nothing"

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Occulis
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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 16:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oddly enough I thought about you answering first when I wrote it!

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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 16:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

lemme guess: You're Joe?
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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 16:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonding moment!
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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 16:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's say it's possible I am neither, and merely overheard the conversation.
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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 16:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had a guy mail in a resume in a big manila envelope for a "Senior Linux Sysadmin" position. Inside the envelope were several full color copies of various certifications he's gotten, including MCP and some Hitachi thing and "Brocade" whatever that is. His resume was printed in 14 point Verdana with maybe 0.10" margins, so it was basically right to the edge of the paper. The resume was 4 pages long and the guy did not finish college. The job clearly stated what we were looking for... familiarity with Big Brother, alteon load balancers, a bunch of other stuff. Under qualifications, the only thing he had listed that was even remotely relevant to the job was:

* Familiar with the Vi Editor under the Bash shell
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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 16:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!

How long has he been with your team?
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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 19:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this one today:

him: I need help with a test
me: ok, whats up?
him: it has two instructions, a nop and a branch
me: k...
him: its going off into the weeds
me: ok, where is it branching to?
him: I dont know
me: Look at the destination of the branch
him: I need your help looking at this
me: *sigh* write up an issue...
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PostPosted: 01/27/05 - 19:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two guys we hired, a year apart.

Guy 1: I think there is something wrong with the server.
Me: Oh yeah, why's that?
Guy 1: I can't open this file.
Me: ?
Guy 1: It's a .pdf file. I can't open it.
Me: Do you have Adobe installed?
Guy 2: What's that?
Me: ..................

We see him riding his bike around town occasionally now. Poor guy.

The other guy still hasn't gotten fired yet.

The first day he came into work, he plugged a phone line into a network drop and wondered why he couldn't get on the network. He's a CCNA now, and just became an "Alcatel Certified Switch Professional". He's never worked on an actual router, or Alcatel switch because his security clearance hasn't come back yet. Go Test King!
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