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PostPosted: 12/13/05 - 22:46    Post subject: What the...? A praying mantis can kill a mouse...? Reply with quote

That just baffles me. I mean, PM's are so damn fragile. Check this video out, it's some sick shit.

Note: It's very graphic. Don't watch it if you have a weak stomach.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6499870889669501096
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PostPosted: 12/13/05 - 22:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome.
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PostPosted: 12/13/05 - 23:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google video takes FOREVER to load for me
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PostPosted: 12/13/05 - 23:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

People like that need beatings. Long, painful beatings. Beatings that alter body parts forever.
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PostPosted: 12/13/05 - 23:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbarr wrote:
People like that need beatings. Long, painful beatings. Beatings that alter body parts forever.


Wtf Kbarr in your opinion everyone needs a long painful beating.
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PostPosted: 12/13/05 - 23:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the mouse was hungry, I believe it would have won

Lets see him put a shrew in there with the mantis.

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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 00:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol I found this when looking for spider fight videos.

This guy just keeps running through spider webs.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5555015558335719246&q=spiders
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 00:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbarr wrote:
People like that need beatings. Long, painful beatings. Beatings that alter body parts forever.


i agree. this is fuckeing weird. what would inspire you to do shit like this?
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 00:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paden wrote:
kbarr wrote:
People like that need beatings. Long, painful beatings. Beatings that alter body parts forever.


Wtf Kbarr in your opinion everyone needs a long painful beating.


Incorrect again, you stupid wigger.
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 00:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3836285420652975761&q=spider (Funniest)
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 00:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbarr wrote:
Paden wrote:
kbarr wrote:
People like that need beatings. Long, painful beatings. Beatings that alter body parts forever.


Wtf Kbarr in your opinion everyone needs a long painful beating.


Incorrect again, you stupid wigger.



Check check 1 2

Got MC Paden on the mic.
and we got a n***a stealin a bike
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 00:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tura wrote:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1712191745465777735&q=spider+video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6409614955922041205&q=spider+video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7423275782801928673&q=spider+video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5635909824388034448&q=insect+video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3898661765417430823&q=spider

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6327250892441038759&q=spider

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=882269119691282815&q=spider (Best)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3836285420652975761&q=spider (Funniest)



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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 01:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a big en!
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 01:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is pretty suprising, sort of.

However, everyone knows Northern Praying Mantis Style owns Eastern Blood Mouse technique. Duh.

As far as it being sick goes...well, yeah it kinda is because it takes so long.

On the other hand, I feed rats/mice to my snake pretty regular, so the whole sacrificing an animal to another animal doesnt bug me.

My snake makes a lot faster work of the rodents, however, usually breaking their neck/back when he strikes, thus less painful.

The really wicked one was I used to have a Sunbeam Snake, which swallows its prey whole...and live...and you could hear the mice squeak from inside it.
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 02:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

p***y. why dont you pick them up with your hands?
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 02:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

atarom wrote:
p***y. why dont you pick them up with your hands?


Quote:
Urticating Hairs

Jean Michel Verdez (France)

A great number of tarantulas (from north U.S.A. through latin America) have on the opisthosoma thousands of urticating hairs. These hairs are a way of effective defence (in addition to the venom) against attackers. These hairs come off very easily from the opisthosoma (they are situated at the top of the opisthosoma) by a simple rub of one or more legs. There are several types of urticating hairs (see diagram) and these are also of different sizes. These hairs are respectively:-




Only Ischnocolinae, Aviculariinae and Theraphoseae have urticating hairs. Hairs of type II are typical of Aviculariinae. Hairs of type IV are typical of Grammostola.

We can see from the diagram that the shape of urticating hairs and barbs are different. Urticating hairs do not appear completely on the opisthosoma at birth. They form a dark mark, and this stretches progressively after each moult (for example, Lasiodora anax, Brachypelma albopilosa and Aphonopelma hentzi). We must not confuse urticating hairs with abdominal hairs. Urticating hairs do not cover the entire opisthosoma. The function of abdominal hairs is unknown.

Tarantulas also use urticating hairs to establish their territories, and also for making the cocoon. It is possible that this last use is a way of protecting the cocoon.

The urticating hairs are a formidable weapon against an intruder, but according to the species and where the hairs are introduced the effects will be different; sometimes trifling, sometimes important and even dangerous.

According to Vellard (1936) and Bucherl (1951), the genera with the most urticating hairs are Lasiodora, Grammostola and Acanthoscurria. Except for Grammostola, the other genera have hairs of type III, and we can also add Brachypelma smithii. There are a number of other species notable for their urticating hair, for example, Theraphosa leblondi, Pamphobeteus antinous and P. platyomma and It would be interesting to know what type of hairs these species have.

Among Avicularia, they very rarely throw hairs, except sometimes Avicularia versicolor notably when she has a cocoon or just in post-moult. On the other hand, Avicularia metallica cover their lair with urticating hairs, and when you put your hand in you end up with it full of these hairs. According to Cooke, Roth and Miller (1972), urticaria causes a feeling of prickling with Avicularia surinamensis. Prickling is the real word in my opinion with, in addition to that, pimples and itching (A. metallica).

Among tarantulas without urticating hairs, aggression is shown by exhibiting the fangs, and this can go on to an attack (Stromatopelma griseipes, Citharischius crawshayi, Pterinochilus murinus and Ornithoctonus andersoni. This is an attitude shown to a lesser extent by New World tarantulas. These tarantulas have a defensive attitude (for example Brachypelma smithii, Lasiodora parahybana and Brachypelma emelia throwing urticating hairs) but others attack directly, for example Theraphosa leblondi, Xeneathis monstrosaa and Pamphobeteus platyomma.

I would like to know if tarantulas without urticating hairs are more aggressive than tarantulas with urticating hair. I would like to know if the venom of tarantulas without urticating hair is more potent than the venom of tarantulas with urticating hairs.

Now, here are some species with my reaction to their urticating hairs along with observations:-

Brachypelma smithii (Cambridge 1897): Itching with a burning sensation. Itching blur rapidly at the end of 30 minutes, but they reappear until 24 hours after and several times day and night

Brachypelma vagans (Ausserer 1875): Slight itching which blur rapidly in 30 minutes. This returns in the day, but it is not systematic.

Brachypelma albopilosa (Valerio 1980): This species does not throw urticating hairs and the effects are insignificant.

Brachypelma albopilosa (White 1856): This species throws often and with large amounts of urticating hairs. Slight itching (more than B. vagms) which comes back several times by day but they blur rapidly in 15 minutes.

Grammostola pulchra (Mello-Leitao 1921): This species does not often throw urticating hairs

Grammostola spatulata (Cambridge 1897): As for G. pulchra.

Metrioplema zebratus (Banks 1903): Slight itching which blur rapidly in 15 minutes. On the other hand, my wife is very allergic (intense itching day and night). This species must have a restricted area of urticating hairs.

Pterinopelma saltator (Pocock 1903): As for G. pulchra.

Aphonopelma chalcodes (Chamberlin 1939): Slight .d brief itching (15 minutes).

Lasiodora parahybana (Mello-Leitao 1917): Very important itching which lasts about 30 minutes and which comes back during the day.

Pamphobeteus platyomma (Mello-Leitao 1923): Same effects as L.parahybana but less intense.

Pamphobeteus antinous (Pocock 1903): Very intense itching for one hour which returns day and night. In addition to that I experienced the feeling of something in my throat (inhalation of hairs) causing me to cough.

Xenesthis monstrosa (Pocock 1903): This species does not throw urticating hairs much.

Therahosa lebloncli (Latreille 1804): As for P. antinous.

Avicularia avicularia (Lime 1758): This species gives me a very interesting reaction. When I remove moults I have a terrible itching of pimples. These eruptions are brief, and last only about 30 minutes, but the itching comes back several times during the day. This phenomenon happens only when I remove moults.

Of course, these effects are only persona any other observations or corrections let me know.

Bibliography Cooke,,J.A.L., Roth V.D. and Miller F.R.: "The urticating hairs of theraphosid spiders : Mus. Am. Nat. Hist., New York, 21/6/72.

I would also like to thank Patrick Marechal (Mus. Fr. Hist. Nat., Paris) for providing me with this paper.





I have over 70 spiders. The hairs accumulate if you let them. I don't.
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 02:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

And we think old ladies who have a dozen cats are weird....
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 02:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spiritz wrote:
And we think old ladies who have a dozen cats are weird....


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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 03:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the right side, are those the milipede things?
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 03:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, 4 that I'm going to recage in time. One was getting eaten by the main group, don't ask me why. One is a small male that was getting his ass kicked. 2 others are an un named sub species that I want tp keep seperate from the main group.
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 06:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbarr wrote:
Yeah, 4 that I'm going to recage in time. One was getting eaten by the main group, don't ask me why. One is a small male that was getting his ass kicked. 2 others are an un named sub species that I want tp keep seperate from the main group.


man, how can you call anyone creepy?
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 10:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbarr wrote:
Tura wrote:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1712191745465777735&q=spider+video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6409614955922041205&q=spider+video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7423275782801928673&q=spider+video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5635909824388034448&q=insect+video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3898661765417430823&q=spider

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6327250892441038759&q=spider

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=882269119691282815&q=spider (Best)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3836285420652975761&q=spider (Funniest)





lol nice!
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 12:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

atarom wrote:
kbarr wrote:
People like that need beatings. Long, painful beatings. Beatings that alter body parts forever.


i agree. this is fuckeing weird. what would inspire you to do shit like this?
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 12:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Clean your screen you f*****g slob, it only takes one minute. OK OK I lied, in your case it will probably take 2' since it's so dirty.
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 12:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

atarom wrote:
kbarr wrote:
Yeah, 4 that I'm going to recage in time. One was getting eaten by the main group, don't ask me why. One is a small male that was getting his ass kicked. 2 others are an un named sub species that I want tp keep seperate from the main group.


man, how can you call anyone creepy?


Easy, I'm qualified.
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kbarr wrote:



Clean your screen you f*****g slob, it only takes one minute. OK OK I lied, in your case it will probably take 2' since it's so dirty.


Euroscum,

I did, after I put my little friend away.

You have any idea how much effort it took to get him in that position? It was a big fight just to get my 12 inch hemostats in between his joints like that. He was not happy and his legs were going haywire, he messed up not only my screen but the keyboard. Coco bedding and assorted fluids everywhere. And this is after I fed him 7 large roaches, thinking that would sedate him. Wrong.

What part of loser land are you from?
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 13:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am telling you guys, in World War 3, Kbarr is going to be riding on the back of a horse sized spider...dressed with a crown,robe, and missle launching sceptre.

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Elephants make much better war animals.
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I will walk the earth surrounded by thousands of grumpy pugs, all with pointed steel dentures.

Land piranha.
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PostPosted: 12/14/05 - 15:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fattguyy wrote:
I am telling you guys, in War War 3, Kbarr is going to be riding on the back of a horse sized spider...dressed with a crown,robe, and missle launching sceptre.


haha great image!
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