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Nahualli
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 Posted: 05/13/05 - 20:26 Post subject: What good is Revenge?
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I'm trained up to Rank 3 (whoops : edit) on this hoping it would be a neat skill but I find it largely pointless. Am I missing some obvious benefit? Same with Overpower. It's pretty bunk overall. I'd rather save the rage cst and just use Heroic Strike or something else. 
-Nah-
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wibblewobble
Luke Warm
Joined: 04 May 2003
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 20:44 Post subject:
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Big aggro and 3sec stun for 5 rage? (if imp) = own
edit: Overpower > Rogues and other warriors, with imp its 50% chace to crit with an extra atk that does more dmg then normal
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Merican
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 20:44 Post subject:
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overpower is awesome.... its basically a free big hit for a very lil cost.. revenge not sure
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Occulis
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 20:45 Post subject:
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One time I hit my friend in the nose because he threw a snowball at my dog. :/ so I dunno. Revenge has dubious worth. I never got anything out of it but a memory and a storym
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Sulace
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Joined: 09 Feb 2003
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 22:19 Post subject:
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Revenge is cool because it's basically an extra hit between mortal strike and all those attacks (it is instant when you click it, and doesn't cancel your attack round choice).
I'll admit it doesn't do much damage, but at least a small boost for the defense style on top of the regular ones like slam / strike.
Overpower is awesome when combined with the 50% crit chance, and bleed. Heck, even toss in retalliation and you can overpower straight for 15secs and be left with nothing to hit.
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Nahualli
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 22:56 Post subject:
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| Sulace wrote: | Revenge is cool because it's basically an extra hit between mortal strike and all those attacks (it is instant when you click it, and doesn't cancel your attack round choice).
I'll admit it doesn't do much damage, but at least a small boost for the defense style on top of the regular ones like slam / strike.
Overpower is awesome when combined with the 50% crit chance, and bleed. Heck, even toss in retalliation and you can overpower straight for 15secs and be left with nothing to hit. |
I'll have to give Overpower a second chance it seems. It just seems like Revenge is a f*****g waste for the gold it's cost to train it up to rank 3 so far. I really doubt I'll train it any higher unless I'm sitting on a mountain of cash and I have nothing else to spend it on
-Nah-
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Addem
Luke Warm
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 23:01 Post subject:
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Shield Block+Revenge = way to keep agro (after you sunder and dem shout or even during)
Overpower = almost as much dmg as MS and is also its own hit, but only useable when the person dodges.
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Hohrer
Luke Warm
Joined: 16 Oct 2002
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Posted: 05/14/05 - 10:04 Post subject:
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revenge is very useful for defensive tanks, especially when you put talents into it(the stun wins)
the damage isnt much but the aggro is great
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Occulis
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Posted: 05/14/05 - 10:34 Post subject:
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Yeah mountain of cash -- more like mountain of ass, you tubby shithead. (PS: shithead is a dipthong)
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 05/14/05 - 11:37 Post subject:
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To be quite honest with you, when I'm tanking MC, the only things I click are Sunder Armor, Shield Block, Shield Bash, and Taunt (when needed).
Sometimes I'll drop a shield wall too, but 99% of the time even that isn't needed. I don't train any points in improved revenge, because the content I fight, stuns don't affect mobs.
Not only that, but when I do venture into pick up group land, the rogues tend to use up the stun timer pretty fast, which makes me not need a revenge that stuns.
That's just my opinion.
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Janoth
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Posted: 05/14/05 - 22:34 Post subject:
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Revenge while tanking should be used every time it comes up. It is a great tool for agro
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Nahualli
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Posted: 05/15/05 - 02:39 Post subject:
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So let's just say you're a warrior who solos most of the time.. I probably wont be using it that much? I'll keep training it if its going to be useful.. but no way am I wasting talent points on it.
-Nah-
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Janoth
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Posted: 05/15/05 - 08:14 Post subject:
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You should get used to it. You will be using it every time you go into an instance, which will be a lot
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 05/15/05 - 10:45 Post subject:
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just a different playstyle than me. You've gotta remember, revenge is "just" an instant attack for low damage. it's not a high threat attack ala Sunder armor or even Shield Bash.
Using it spends rage that is really rather suited in gaining threat. Our melee is trivial at best when it comes to holding agro. Our main tank using a 35dps axe with 12 stamina only solidifies that argument, while 3-4 rogues using Ragnaros' dagger and all hunters using MC ranged weapons.
No point in using revenge unless you're soloing in battle stance and need the extra damage.
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Nahualli
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Posted: 05/15/05 - 14:20 Post subject:
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| Xarpolis wrote: |
No point in using revenge unless you're soloing in battle stance and need the extra damage. |
In which case I'll just Overpower cuz the damage on Revenge is shit 
-Nah-
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 05/15/05 - 17:29 Post subject:
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Erm, ment protection stance.
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cian
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Posted: 05/15/05 - 19:33 Post subject:
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Revenge is your single best aggro ability in the game... and Overpower is one of the best warrior abilities for PvE and PvP...
edit: that being said, you only need Rank 1 in both until you have the money to throw away
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