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Megalo
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002
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 Posted: 10/25/04 - 18:53 Post subject: What do military folks think of this war?
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http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2513919.php
This is a great article because the person writing it HAS to be pro-President as a rule. Anyone who's been in the military will back me up on this...you don't have an opinion typically...you're given one. And the numbers are still very very shaky:
The findings are part of the annual Military Times Poll, which this year included 933 active-duty military subscribers to Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and Marine Corps Times. The subscribers were randomly surveyed by mail in late November and early December prior to the capture of Saddam Hussein.
He continues to write and this part is funny: "•The poll found solid support for the president’s Iraq policy. Fifty-six percent of those in the Military Times Poll approved of Bush’s handling of Iraq."
***56% is solid support from your military?! hahah...funniest thing I've read this week.***
“Fifty-six percent is not very high in terms of support,” said Andrew Bacevich, a a professor of international relations at Boston University and a retired Army officer. “There is plenty of reason to be skeptical of the handling of Iraq on the part of the people who are paying the price.”
"One likely factor in that support: Military members are much more likely to identify themselves as Republicans. Recent polls show about one-third of Americans consider themselves Republicans, but 57 percent of those surveyed by Military Times identified with the GOP."
In dozens of follow-up interviews with men and women who responded to the poll, only one would go on the record with objections to the war in Iraq. Army Spc. Chris Stewart said he spent seven months in Iraq as a mortarman with the 3rd Brigade of the 1st Armored Division, before he was evacuated for treatment of combat stress.
“I don’t think we should lose any more people doing this,” Stewart said. “The patrols aren’t causing stabilization. All we are is a giant target for those people.”
The poll also demonstrates a large obstacle to probing military members’ opinions on controversial political issues: their hesitance to express those opinions publicly, even behind the anonymity of a poll.
About one in five Military Times Poll respondents either declined to answer questions about Bush and Iraq or said they had no opinion.
“You just don’t do it,” Peters said. “One of the reasons I retired when I did was I wanted to write about political issues. Expressing political opinions was just unacceptable — and also against regulations.”
“I do what I’m told,” said Marine Sgt. Edward J. Leslie, a squad leader in the 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment. “I don’t really second-guess the president.”
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/25/04 - 18:57 Post subject:
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I did omit a few typical military "rah rah President is cool" crapola they always put in this stuff. But again, if you've been in, you know their brainwashing tactics already.
But basically, this is very very poor. 20% of the people straight up declined to answer, and I'll tell you why that is: not smart to speak up in the wrong way. Huh fellow grunts?
And you *know* most folks are Republican before they even enlist. Usually the reason most of us do it....we want $ for college and we wanna be patriots.
44% of the patriots willing to even answer are against it?
And how many of those are actually over there fighting?
Not good numbers at ALL.
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Vengar_OO
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Joined: 30 Nov 2002
Posts: 1029
Location: Mayport, FL
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Posted: 10/26/04 - 04:16 Post subject: -==-
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I'm pretty sure this is goes for all branches, but the Admirals have to kiss the presidents ass, and everyone else kisses the admirals ass. I'm not just talking about a peck on the cheek, I mean these guys would probably try to suck the turd out of his a*****e.
Anyways, I support the war. Iraq has pretty much proved what a waste the UN is by p*****g all over the peace treaty they signed. All the UN did was "strongly condemn" stuff. France and Germany had backyard deals with Iraq anyways, why would they want to stop it.
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