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lauren000
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 Posted: 03/16/04 - 22:45 Post subject: US soldier wants to quit
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So lame people join up for a free education and cry like b*****s when they get sent to war.
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G.I. Seeks Conscientious Objector Status
By ADRIAN SAINZ, Associated Press Writer
NORTH MIAMI, Fla. - A U.S. soldier, who refused to return to Iraq (news - web sites) after he was shaken by a gunfight that killed innocent civilians, reported to his unit Tuesday in preparation for seeking conscientious objector status.
Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia walked into the building housing his Florida National Guard unit at the North Miami Armory after repeating his determination not to return to the Middle East and fight.
"I'm prepared to go to prison," Mejia said.
Mejia, 28, of Miami Beach, was in Iraq for about five months last year until October, when he returned home on leave. He did not return to duty. He surrendered Monday at an Air Force base in Massachusetts and was ordered to return to Florida and report to his unit, the 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment of the Florida National Guard.
"This is an oil-driven war, and I don't think any soldier signs up to fight for oil," Mejia said Monday after arriving at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport.
His attorney, Louis Font, said he believes Mejia is the first soldier to turn himself in after refusing to return to Iraq. Mejia said he would seek conscientious objector status. In Iraq on Tuesday, officials said two other soldiers were seeking objector status there.
Lt. Col. Ron Tittle, a Florida National Guard spokesman, said Mejia would likely be sent to Fort Stewart, Ga., to meet with a military legal services team.
Mejia said he was particularly upset over an incident in Iraq in which he and others were ambushed and innocent civilians were hit in the ensuing gunfire.
A native of Nicaragua, Mejia is a permanent resident of the United States who served in the Army for three years. He had served in the National Guard for five years when his unit was called to active duty. In civilian life, he was a psychology student at the University of Miami.
Mejia said he joined the military upon his arrival in the United States so he could work his way into American society. He could not say whether he might be deported because of his refusal to serve, but said "whatever sacrifice I have to make, I have to go there."
Meanwhile, in Iraq, a commander said two U.S. Army medics there have applied for conscientious objector status. Capt. Todd Grissom said said the two, both privates first class, notified the Army of their request on Feb. 9, the day before their Germany-based 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment deployed to Iraq.
The two want to be honorably discharged from the military because the idea of killing is "revolting" to them, Grissom said Tuesday.
Grissom would not identify the two soldiers, saying only that they come from California and Illinois. Their requests were being investigated, he said. |
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420stillsmokinwhatwhat
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 22:47 Post subject:
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That takes balls n***a what
Donknow if that shit right | wrong but hook it up - yo - that boy got hard times ahead what
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Omol
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 22:59 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | The two want to be honorably discharged from the military because the idea of killing is "revolting" to them, Grissom said Tuesday. |
They need to be shot in the head for even signing up then. There is always a possibility that our country can go to war on any given day, they should realized that when they went to sign up. I hope they get a dishonorable discharge.
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420stillsmokinwhatwhat
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 23:01 Post subject:
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shit yea shoot them muffuckas what
it's all good it's about peace n***a shoot them muffuckas they DESERVE to die
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Zapper
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 23:02 Post subject:
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So f*****g stupid. Should send him to guantanamo to do time with the ragheads.
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Yabden
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 23:02 Post subject:
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they make the rest of the army look bad
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Tolanin
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 23:04 Post subject:
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| Omol wrote: | | Quote: | | The two want to be honorably discharged from the military because the idea of killing is "revolting" to them, Grissom said Tuesday. |
They need to be shot in the head for even signing up then. There is always a possibility that our country can go to war on any given day, they should realized that when they went to sign up. I hope they get a dishonorable discharge. |
really, if you join and get trained just to do some exercises and j**k off on base all day never willing to go out and fight you dont deserve to be discharged honorably.
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Docter
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 23:05 Post subject:
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Corrine Brown will probably come to his rescue, citing some rascism within the military BS.
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420stillsmokinwhatwhat
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 23:05 Post subject:
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shit yea get em out but damn what's this mess talkin about shootin em? that's vengeance talk n***a - wrath unconcerned with justice. pointless shit n***a that's the cycle of revenge. ain't you study history?
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Tura
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 23:07 Post subject:
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He should be punished ultimately and sent to Spain or France along with the other cowards.
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420stillsmokinwhatwhat
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Posted: 03/16/04 - 23:11 Post subject:
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hey where's that hot blonde who used to come here and shit
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Oggabish
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 00:56 Post subject:
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Just because people don't want to fight does not make them cowards.
This war is about oil, nothing else. Bush lied openly to the whole country, and you still say shit like this. f*****g morons. How would you feel if you or your family members had to go fight and possibly die in an ambush or get blown up somewhere, so the gas prices would drop by some inconsiderable amount?
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 01:06 Post subject:
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| Oggabish wrote: | Just because people don't want to fight does not make them cowards.
This war is about oil, nothing else. Bush lied openly to the whole country, and you still say shit like this. f*****g morons. How would you feel if you or your family members had to go fight and possibly die in an ambush or get blown up somewhere, so the gas prices would drop by some inconsiderable amount? |
You f*****g idiot.
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Omol
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 01:24 Post subject:
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| Oggabish wrote: | Just because people don't want to fight does not make them cowards.
This war is about oil, nothing else. Bush lied openly to the whole country, and you still say shit like this. f*****g morons. How would you feel if you or your family members had to go fight and possibly die in an ambush or get blown up somewhere, so the gas prices would drop by some inconsiderable amount? |
Anyone that joins the military knows or atleast has the understanding with the way shit is going today that we have a chance on any given day to go to war. It may be a small chance but the fact is still there. If they didnt want to be part of it then they shouldnt have signed up for it.
If they dont want to fight then they need to stay the f**k out of the military. Plain and simple.
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The Guy On The Couch
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 01:28 Post subject:
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If the war is about oil, why didnt we take the wells the first time we were there?
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 02:16 Post subject:
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| Oggabish wrote: | Just because people don't want to fight does not make them cowards.
This war is about oil, nothing else. Bush lied openly to the whole country, and you still say shit like this. f*****g morons. How would you feel if you or your family members had to go fight and possibly die in an ambush or get blown up somewhere, so the gas prices would drop by some inconsiderable amount? |
Idiot.
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ashwynd
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 02:26 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Oggabish wrote: | Just because people don't want to fight does not make them cowards.
This war is about oil, nothing else. Bush lied openly to the whole country, and you still say shit like this. f*****g morons. How would you feel if you or your family members had to go fight and possibly die in an ambush or get blown up somewhere, so the gas prices would drop by some inconsiderable amount? |
Idiot. |
It's nice to see that our country makes the police obtain degrees from a university after taking pre-requisite English courses. Your vocabulary continues to amaze and surprise the readers of realpoor. With <3.
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 02:54 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Oggabish wrote: | Just because people don't want to fight does not make them cowards.
This war is about oil, nothing else. Bush lied openly to the whole country, and you still say shit like this. f*****g morons. How would you feel if you or your family members had to go fight and possibly die in an ambush or get blown up somewhere, so the gas prices would drop by some inconsiderable amount? |
Idiot. |
It's nice to see that our country makes the police obtain degrees from a university after taking pre-requisite English courses. Your vocabulary continues to amaze and surprise the readers of realpoor. With <3. |
No need for an english degree to describe you.
You idiot.
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 03:04 Post subject:
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one note,
joining the army means one thing, you are no longer allowed to think for yourself, if you do you're gonna get a dishonerable discharge sooner or later.
plain and simple, joining the army dissallows you from having a viewpoint, a life besides that of devotion to the will of your superior, and the choice not to participate, you made that choice when you signed up.
thats all
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ashwynd
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 03:07 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | ashwynd wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Oggabish wrote: | Just because people don't want to fight does not make them cowards.
This war is about oil, nothing else. Bush lied openly to the whole country, and you still say shit like this. f*****g morons. How would you feel if you or your family members had to go fight and possibly die in an ambush or get blown up somewhere, so the gas prices would drop by some inconsiderable amount? |
Idiot. |
It's nice to see that our country makes the police obtain degrees from a university after taking pre-requisite English courses. Your vocabulary continues to amaze and surprise the readers of realpoor. With <3. |
No need for an english degree to describe you.
You idiot. |
You always come through for me. Proving your intelligence time and time again. Don't deny your love for me, Kbarr! To be honest, it would have sounded better if you didn't make a seperate line for "You idiot." Next time just end your last sentence with a comma, then the word idiot. Might I suggest some other immature namecalling gimmicks? I heard the words b***h, f*g, a*****e, jerkoff, and even poopie head are back in style...in elementary school. I apologize for turning this thread away from the original topic, carry on~
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 03:26 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | ashwynd wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Oggabish wrote: | Just because people don't want to fight does not make them cowards.
This war is about oil, nothing else. Bush lied openly to the whole country, and you still say shit like this. f*****g morons. How would you feel if you or your family members had to go fight and possibly die in an ambush or get blown up somewhere, so the gas prices would drop by some inconsiderable amount? |
Idiot. |
It's nice to see that our country makes the police obtain degrees from a university after taking pre-requisite English courses. Your vocabulary continues to amaze and surprise the readers of realpoor. With <3. |
No need for an english degree to describe you.
You idiot. |
You always come through for me. Proving your intelligence time and time again. Don't deny your love for me, Kbarr! To be honest, it would have sounded better if you didn't make a seperate line for "You idiot." Next time just end your last sentence with a comma, then the word idiot. Might I suggest some other immature namecalling gimmicks? I heard the words b***h, f*g, a*****e, jerkoff, and even poopie head are back in style...in elementary school. I apologize for turning this thread away from the original topic, carry on~ |
Grammar boy!
Impress me with your literary skills! Tells us how smart you are, better yet show us. I want you to start spouting off all the different things you so dutifully learned in english class. Were you the english teachers pet by any chance?
Here is a little assignment, I bet you LOVE them! From now on, I want you to grade every ones posts. You know, for corrrrect grrammmers and such!? ok>?
LOL
You little idiot.
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khrath
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 03:34 Post subject:
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They should execute his deserting ass =)
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Frax
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 04:24 Post subject:
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He f****d up by stating "OiL" and claiming C.O. status, he made it political instead of a non-violence thing. If he had just had a change of heart about being a solider they usually deal with that by moving the person to a non-combat job or training them as a medic where he doesn't have to carry a weapon.
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Oogie
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 05:05 Post subject:
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I don't blame the powerful politicians for enacting war.
I blame the f*****s who keep showing up.
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 09:41 Post subject:
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| ATM Banana wrote: | one note,
joining the army means one thing, you are no longer allowed to think for yourself, if you do you're gonna get a dishonerable discharge sooner or later.
plain and simple, joining the army dissallows you from having a viewpoint, a life besides that of devotion to the will of your superior, and the choice not to participate, you made that choice when you signed up.
thats all |
I dunno, when I swore in I sure didn't get the impression that I was "no longer allowed to think for myself".
Think for yourself, yeah. Have your oppinions about things, yeah. But do the job you signed on for even though your viewpoint you have may not fall in line with it, it's called having a sense of duty.
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Oggabish
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 09:44 Post subject:
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| Khrath wrote: | | They should execute his deserting ass =) |
Don't forget... he actually came back and reported to his unit, claiming that he is ready to go to prison for his beliefs. So he's not a deserter.
And all those one line responses are simply amazing. Keep them coming, they contribute to the post so much and say volumes about yourselves.
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khrath
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 09:53 Post subject:
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He deserted then changed his mind....that's still deserting.
He did so during wartime, that is a crime punishable by death.
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Kely
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 10:01 Post subject:
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Hope they enjoy their time in Leavenworth, because that is where they need to go. If someone signs up for the military they know they could be asked to kill. Put them in prison for a few years. Then give them dishonorable discharges.
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Celestra
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 10:03 Post subject:
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| Kely wrote: | | If someone signs up for the military they know they could be asked to kill. |
The question here is: kill who?
Soldiers from the other side who also chose to be there, or civilians?
Big difference.
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Goraz
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 10:18 Post subject:
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What a little b***h.
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