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Abi
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:25 Post subject: UN Oil for Food scandal. THE SMOKING GUN!!!
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VERY interesting article....
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U.N. Lesson: Follow the Oil-for-Food Money
Wednesday, June 30, 2004
By Claudia Rosett
NEW YORK — This is the tale of a bribe linked to the U.N. oil-for-food program in Iraq.
The bribe itself, paid to Saddam Hussein's regime, first made the news in late 2002. What got no attention at the time, however, was just how odd a response it drew from the United Nations. There, it was treated as just another modest irregularity in oil-for-food — worthy of polite inquiry, but not the outrage and immediate expert investigation it deserved.
Certainly there was far less fury from the United Nations over this bribe than Secretary-General Kofi Annan and his aides have since expressed in rejecting criticisms that the world body ran a crooked oil-for-food program. But here's the charm at the center of it all (and one that various investigators now sorting through oil-for-food might want to keep in mind): U.N. procedure itself, even in a matter as serious as bribery, evidently entailed treating Saddam not like a totalitarian ruler under strict sanctions, but as just another esteemed head of state — albeit one with a particularly large U.N. welfare program underway.
Here's the story of the bribe itself — or rather, of its discovery.
As a rule, Saddam's partners-in-corruption were not eager to file official complaints, having nothing to gain from informing on themselves. Nor was the United Nations very inquisitive, despite rumors about corruption from the program's early days. When several oil-for-food contractors brought Iraqi kickback demands to the attention of the program's executive director, Benon V. Sevan, in 2000 — as the Secretariat finally disclosed to the Financial Times in 2004 — he effectively buried the issue at that time by telling informants to leave him alone and go file official complaints with their country missions.
But in the case of this particular bribe, matters had already gone too far for a brush-off.
The informant was a Russian businessman named Gazi Luguev, president of a Swiss-based trading company, Lakia S.A.R.L, which was authorized to buy Iraqi oil from Saddam under the program. Luguev was upset — not because Saddam's regime had asked him for a bribe — but because, by his own account, he had paid the bribe to no avail. He wanted his company's money back.
As detailed in a fax dated Oct. 2, 2002, which Luguev sent to Iraq's State Oil Marketing Organization (SOMO) and copied to the U.N. oil overseers in Sevan's New York office, Luguev had been asked by the Iraqi regime to pay a "deposit" of $60,000 into a secret bank account in the Jordan National Bank in order to procure an oil-for-food shipment of underpriced Iraqi oil. Any such payment was in gross violation of both U.N. sanctions against Iraq and oil-for-food rules, which spelled out that all Iraq's oil-related revenues would flow strictly into a U.N.-held escrow account. To read the Lakia fax, click here — Adobe Acrobat required to view pdf.
According to Luguev's fax, Lakia had paid the $60,000 to Baghdad in advance (which was by several accounts standard practice for such kickbacks on oil shipments, which were widely rumored to be commonplace). But this time, Iraq did not deliver any oil. So Luguev, in his fax to the Iraqi authorities and to Sevan's office, demanded Iraq refund to Lakia its deposit "or we will be obliged to take all necessary legal steps and apply to all concerned organizations to get our money back."
A copy of this fax, and the ensuing correspondence, was obtained by private investigators John Fawcett and Christine Negroni, at the New York law firm of Kreindler & Kreindler. In reviewing these papers recently, they took a closer look at Sevan's response to Luguev's fax. What jumped out was that Sevan had fired off a letter that same day, Oct. 2 (as well he should have, this being formal documentary evidence of a kickback to Saddam's regime.) To read the Sevan letter, click here -- Adobe Acrobat required to view pdf.
But did he write immediately to inform the Security Council, which oversaw the program? Did he alert any independent auditing or investigative authority?
Evidently not. First, and foremost, Sevan wrote to Saddam's U.N. ambassador, Mohammed Aldouri, attaching Luguev's complaint. Sevan warned Aldouri: "I am duty bound to bring the matter to the attention of the Security Council Committee." Sevan then added a crucial sentence: "Prior to doing so, however, I should like to receive most urgently the views and comments of the Government of Iraq on the information provided by Lakia SARL."
He asked for a response within one week.
In other words, in the interest of what one can only suppose was routine information-gathering at the United Nations, Sevan's first move was, in effect, to give Baghdad a week's notice to bury the evidence and prepare a reply.
In a purely private business setting, this might be excused as nothing worse than an attempt to gather all the facts before taking the case to the boss (though in some quarters, one might hope that documented allegations of a $60,000 payoff would warrant the immediate attention of the top brass).
But oil-for-food was not a private business. It was an international program that existed — and was funded handsomely with 2.2 percent of Saddam's oil revenues — solely to supervise the commerce of a predatory totalitarian regime under strict U.N. sanctions. One would have thought that a fax detailing the illicit flow of money to Saddam's regime via a Jordanian bank account should have inspired loud and immediate alarms on all fronts, and an immediate heads-up to the Security Council — not just an exclusive letter to the Iraqi mission that begins with the salutation, "Excellencies," and requests "views and comments" about the Lakia charges.
Any official oil-for-food document with Sevan's signature gets extra scrutiny these days for two reasons. First, the United Nations has persistently kept most of the vital paperwork concerning the program secret. Second, because there have been allegations, now under investigation, that in 1998 Sevan himself received oil allocations from Saddam.
Sevan has denied he ever took anything from Saddam's regime. But even if he is officially cleared of all allegations, even if in the case of the Lakia bribe he was simply following established procedure, there remains the big question: Just what kind of crazy shop had the United Nations become that the excellencies of Baghdad — the accused bribe-takers in this dispute — were treated not as a government under sanctions, but as esteemed clients? So softly worded is Sevan's letter that it's hard to tell whether his chief concern was that Baghdad had been collecting bribes, or that Baghdad had failed to deliver on them.
In a reply to Sevan, dated oddly enough a day earlier than Sevan's letter (but registered by the oil-for-food office six days later, on Oct. 8 — just within the deadline set by Sevan) Saddam's Ambassador Aldouri said that the fax from Lakia contained information that was "incorrect." To read the Aldouri letter, click here -- Adobe Acrobat is required to view pdf.
However, according to a Newsweek story about the Lakia kickback spat, published in November 2002, Saddam's government then offered to refund Luguev's money. And while the Security Council's Sanctions Committee was eventually informed of the Lakia affair, a source close to the United Nations reports that such member states as China, Russia, France and Syria opposed any action — and none was taken.
Sevan did not reply to requests for his comments on this matter. Annan's office, asked to clarify if it was U.N. procedure to relay bribe allegations to Saddam before informing the Security Council, gave a pro forma response that the Secretariat is not commenting these days on anything that is "within the purview" of the oil-for-food investigation led by former Federal Reserve Board Chairman Paul Volcker.
Indeed, we have yet to hear any U.N. statement of condemnation, let alone contrition, for the oil-for-food fiasco. Over the course of the program, which ended last year, Saddam's regime by General Accounting Office estimates pocketed more than $4 billion in such "deposits" — skimmed from oil earnings meant to feed and doctor the people of Iraq.
What needs investigating here is not only whether the United Nations violated its own practices, but how it slid into procedures that so comfortably let this happen.
Claudia Rosett is Journalist-in-Residence at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, an adjunct fellow at the Hudson Institute, and writes a column, "The Real World," on issues of tyranny and human rights, especially as these relate to the war on terror, for The Wall Street Journal’s Opinionjournal.com and The Wall Street Journal Europe. Previously, Ms. Rosett has served as a member of The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board in New York, as bureau chief in The Wall Street Journal’s Moscow Bureau and as editorial-page editor of The Asian Wall Street Journal. For her on-site coverage of China’s 1989 Tiananmen Square uprising, Ms. Rosett won an Overseas Press Club Citation for Excellence.
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Owyyn
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:27 Post subject:
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cliffnotes?
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:28 Post subject:
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UN = bad.
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Banzai
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:32 Post subject:
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*cough*
Evil UN dealing with Saddam for OIL!!! How dare they.
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:34 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | *cough*
Evil UN dealing with Saddam for OIL!!! How dare they. |
I thought America cut off ties with Saddam (despite their oil).
I also thought they helped Saddam in order to fight the soviet influence.
I also thought you would know better.
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:35 Post subject:
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I thought you would get the point so we are even.
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Abi
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:37 Post subject:
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did you even READ the article Banz? I realize I'm a Conservative Idealogue, however this is not a party issue... We all knew Russia, Germany, France and China had their hands dirty with the oil for food scandal and this is some pretty conclusive evidence of such an involvement...
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:45 Post subject:
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Yes, I get it. But to condemn them for shaking dirty hands is kinda hypocritical don't cha think?
We shook hands with the devil and Iranians get gassed.
They shook hands before we rip out his balls and they are the bad guys now?
To everything turn, turn, turn. It's just a matter of timing.
There is more good in the UN than bad IMHO, this was just a bad judgment error. Happens to the best of nations (see pic).
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:46 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | | I thought you would get the point so we are even. |
You're right. I don't get how you call trying to draw completely incongruent issues into some sort of "point". Why don't you explain?
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:47 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | Yes, I get it. But to condemn them for shaking dirty hands is kinda hypocritical don't cha think?
We shook hands with the devil and Iranians get gassed.
They shook hands before we rip out his balls and they are the bad guys now?
To everything turn, turn, turn. It's just a matter of timing.
There is more good in the UN than bad IMHO, this was just a bad judgment error. Happens to the best of nations (see pic). |
Bribery is a bad "judgement" error? Most people would call that corruption. We openly supported Iraq because they were anti-communists at the time and part of the good fight. The two issues are completely uncomparable.
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Abi
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:48 Post subject:
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OMG THIS SLOPE IS SLIPPERY...
~yawn~
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:54 Post subject:
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It would turn into an exercise of futility and I have to leave work now.
Bottom line: Yea, they shouldn't have done it for the same reason we shouldn't have done it, and by "it" I mean support a megalomaniac. Regardless of the subject (Commies::Desert Storm).
Gotta go!
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 18:55 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | It would turn into an exercise of futility and I have to leave work now.
Bottom line: Yea, they shouldn't have done it for the same reason we shouldn't have done it, and by "it" I mean support a megalomaniac. Regardless of the subject (Commies::Desert Storm).
Gotta go! |
He wasn't a megalomaniac when we supported him...moron.
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Banzai
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Posted: 06/30/04 - 19:36 Post subject:
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Where are you getting the megalomaniac bs from, moron?
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 13:59 Post subject:
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You are the Iraq minister of information Confused. No matter what is told you, undeniable, irrefutable evidence, you stick you your guns like nothing get thru to you. Keep fighting for the war on ignorance, perhaps we will all be a vapid as you continue to be.
Congratulations for being my source of inspired comedy.
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a
1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.
I'm assuming you possess the faculties to actually read or your efforts at keyboard manipulation thru sheer stupidity are a marvel of modern nature and science. I'm done with you.
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 14:06 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | You are the Iraq minister of information Confused. No matter what is told you, undeniable, irrefutable evidence, you stick you your guns like nothing get thru to you. Keep fighting for the war on ignorance, perhaps we will all be a vapid as you continue to be.
Congratulations for being my source of inspired comedy.
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a
1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.
I'm assuming you possess the faculties to actually read or your efforts at keyboard manipulation thru sheer stupidity are a marvel of modern nature and science. I'm done with you. |
Once again you fail to back any of your claims. America backed Saddam, and he gradually became an anti-american nutcase. What's you point. Back...It...Up!
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I think what really happened is more along the lines of the soviets were a bigger threat at the time and while we realized saddam was probably bad and not a great guy from the begining it was better to use him to fight the bigger badder enemy than to opose him from the start, after using saddam to help beat the soviets and then taking out saddam later on was far easier than driving saddam into the arms of the soviets and then trying to beat them both would have been... he didnt really change, he just invaded kuwait and thought we wouldnt do shit about it, well the soviets had already fallen and the idea of givin this guy a bigger foothold in that region was a bad idea.
The mentality of oposing all evil all the time is retarded and can not be done, allying with a lesser evil to beat a great evil or bigger threat is justified and sometimes the best tactic to win with the least loses. Fact is at the time we suported saddam we did it to beat a larger evil, while france and russia and them suported him to make money... so saddam killed a million people, for our part using him might have avoided a nuclear war and despite those million deaths that was probably worth it, for france and russias part they traded a million lives for a new yacht.
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 14:43 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | You are the Iraq minister of information Confused. No matter what is told you, undeniable, irrefutable evidence, you stick you your guns like nothing get thru to you. Keep fighting for the war on ignorance, perhaps we will all be a vapid as you continue to be.
Congratulations for being my source of inspired comedy.
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a
1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.
I'm assuming you possess the faculties to actually read or your efforts at keyboard manipulation thru sheer stupidity are a marvel of modern nature and science. I'm done with you. |
holy dog shit banz..you are seriously f****d in the head if you believe your own posts
seriously
No where does it state anything about him behing a megalomanic. There are no delusions. There are no fantasies. He was the leader of their country. He actually achieved this, and it wasn't just in his head.
I'm assuming in that great big huge head of yours, that you're just trying to push his buttons, as you as guilty as anyone here for posting b******t. It's realpoor after all, but I seriously must consider the content of your actual posts, as even I can back my shit up with facts instead of your vague assumptions and beliefs.
Now, if you were talking about North Korea, and that f****r leading their country..he's totally f****d in the head. I'd call him a maniac, as he's got prescribed medications to treat his documented conditions. I don't recall reading anything to that effect regarding Saddam.
It's sad that you are so close minded, and funny in an ironic way how you point out to others about their shortcomings, where it is in fact YOU with all of the problems.
Once again, I will stand by my statement: You should really keep your mouth shut concerning politics. You really don't have any clue what the world is doing around you.
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Abi
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 15:10 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Once again, I will stand by my statement: You should really keep your mouth shut concerning politics. You really don't have any clue what the world is doing around you. |
The sad thing is, Paco .. before he became an "actor" he actually had some common sense politically... He has since been a victim of the Hollywood liberal brainwashing..
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 15:17 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | | Quote: | | Once again, I will stand by my statement: You should really keep your mouth shut concerning politics. You really don't have any clue what the world is doing around you. |
The sad thing is, Paco .. before he became an "actor" he actually had some common sense politically... He has since been a victim of the Hollywood liberal brainwashing.. |
Yup. I recall. That is why I am sad too.
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Abi
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 15:41 Post subject:
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I seriously think Hollywood should break off from CA and become their own liberal state. Not all Californians are as disconnected from reality as they are .. let them live in their own little dream world and leave us alone!!
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 15:43 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | | I seriously think Hollywood should break off from CA and become their own liberal state. Not all Californians are as disconnected from reality as they are .. let them live in their own little dream world and leave us alone!! |
As long as they keep paying their federal taxes!
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 15:51 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Abi wrote: | | I seriously think Hollywood should break off from CA and become their own liberal state. Not all Californians are as disconnected from reality as they are .. let them live in their own little dream world and leave us alone!! |
As long as they keep paying their federal taxes! |
you wouldnt give up that tax money if they agreed to break away from the US and cut relations with us?
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Abi
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 15:54 Post subject:
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in a heartbeat!!!
f**k those anti-american dickwads...
Heston, Arnie, Brooke and Bruce can stay .. the rest can rot!!!
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 15:57 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Abi wrote: | | I seriously think Hollywood should break off from CA and become their own liberal state. Not all Californians are as disconnected from reality as they are .. let them live in their own little dream world and leave us alone!! |
As long as they keep paying their federal taxes! |
you wouldnt give up that tax money if they agreed to break away from the US and cut relations with us? |
The ACLU is more of a hassle and they're in NY.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 15:59 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Tolanin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Abi wrote: | | I seriously think Hollywood should break off from CA and become their own liberal state. Not all Californians are as disconnected from reality as they are .. let them live in their own little dream world and leave us alone!! |
As long as they keep paying their federal taxes! |
you wouldnt give up that tax money if they agreed to break away from the US and cut relations with us? |
The ACLU is more of a hassle and they're in NY. |
the ACLU tho occassionally serves a useful purpose, they might only protect the rights they like but atleast they protect some of them.
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Posted: 07/01/04 - 16:01 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Tolanin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Abi wrote: | | I seriously think Hollywood should break off from CA and become their own liberal state. Not all Californians are as disconnected from reality as they are .. let them live in their own little dream world and leave us alone!! |
As long as they keep paying their federal taxes! |
you wouldnt give up that tax money if they agreed to break away from the US and cut relations with us? |
The ACLU is more of a hassle and they're in NY. |
the ACLU tho occassionally serves a useful purpose, they might only protect the rights they like but atleast they protect some of them. |
Nope. They protect the "rights" of the few at the expense of the constitutional rights of those around them.
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| Confused wrote: | | Tolanin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Tolanin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Abi wrote: | | I seriously think Hollywood should break off from CA and become their own liberal state. Not all Californians are as disconnected from reality as they are .. let them live in their own little dream world and leave us alone!! |
As long as they keep paying their federal taxes! |
you wouldnt give up that tax money if they agreed to break away from the US and cut relations with us? |
The ACLU is more of a hassle and they're in NY. |
the ACLU tho occassionally serves a useful purpose, they might only protect the rights they like but atleast they protect some of them. |
Nope. They protect the "rights" of the few at the expense of the constitutional rights of those around them. |
sometimes, but mostly you feel that more than the rest of us because you think its your constitutional right to make everyone do exactly what you say and regulate things that dont affect anyone in a bad way...someday ill find the copy of the constitution that you read... i am sure it will be enlightening, even the library of congress doesnt seem to have it.
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