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sinrakin
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 Posted: 03/01/03 - 19:51 Post subject: Turkey turns down $30 billion to let us base troops there
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Apparently Turkey voted against (so far) allowing us to base troops there for our war on Iraq, turning down an offered thirty billion dollars in aid. It strikes me that that's a lot of damn money. There are about 125 million tax returns filed in the US every year - that's $240 per tax return, just to let our troops stand on the ground in Turkey. Not counting actually paying those troops, or feeding and supplying them, or getting them there, or paying for the weapons, or buying the support of any of the dozens of other countries we've had to give concessions to, or undoing the damage after the war is over. And not only that, but it wasn't enough to get them to vote for it 
It strikes me that if you pay taxes, you can expect this war to cost you, personally, on the order of a few thousand dollars. I guess if it actually dramatically decreases our chance of being killed by terrorists (rather than increasing it), it's money well spent. But it's still a lot of damn money.
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Pags
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Posted: 03/01/03 - 20:35 Post subject:
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We offered them $30 billion? I'm gonna agree, that seems like a shitload of money just for being there. Seems like it'd be cheaper to just take over Turkey, THEN base troops there for Iraq ;p
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Rennol
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Posted: 03/01/03 - 21:18 Post subject:
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I think we should just fly over their capital with a wing of F-22's with a sign that says 'Now its free, Thx.'
=D
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Docter
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Posted: 03/01/03 - 21:21 Post subject:
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I think it all boils down to the US not wanting Turkey to go into Iraq, because of the Kurds there. The US is afraid that a fight might break out between the two over the Northern oil fields and any weapons left behind by the Iraqi's. Turkey doesn't want the Kurds to get those weapons, then use them against Turkey.
/shrug
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Akronn
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Posted: 03/01/03 - 23:54 Post subject:
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Yeah this 'war' is getting expensive, and it hasn't even started yet! Major bummer we're reduced to bribing countries now... did anybody else see how the UN vote looks to be split? The 3 African and 3 South American countries are with us while France, Germany, and Russia are against us.
Gee... the lack of 'civilized' support speaks volumes.
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Xion
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Posted: 03/02/03 - 00:02 Post subject:
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first squadron of F-22's won't be ready for active duty in 2005
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Yabden
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Posted: 03/02/03 - 00:02 Post subject:
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Cameroon is the shit, they got our back!
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 03/02/03 - 00:27 Post subject:
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You guys can park a tank in my court yard for a million.
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Vio
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Posted: 03/02/03 - 02:50 Post subject:
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Glad that 30 million is all your money..........
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 03/02/03 - 11:37 Post subject:
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Turkey wont change their mind.
Looks like you guys will have to dig your way under the ground.
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Pags
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 11:34 Post subject:
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Or launch missiles over the ground.
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WheresNWS
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 12:49 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | Turkey wont change their mind.
Looks like you guys will have to dig your way under the ground. |
Or just blow up france and/or quebec.
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Vekril
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 12:52 Post subject:
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only 6 billion was in outright cash grants
24 billion was loan guarantees, which are spread out over time and quite different from cash grants
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Alerik
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 13:11 Post subject:
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And your math on how much it costs the average person is way off. You are leaving out all other ways the government receives money, like tariffs and and the taxation of everything else!
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 13:52 Post subject:
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It came out it was costing the average person around $350
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wellspoken
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 14:57 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | Turkey wont change their mind.
Looks like you guys will have to dig your way under the ground. |
When Baghdad's captiol city is in Paris, you French f**s will change your mind about this war..
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 15:12 Post subject:
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Oh God stfu...
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Haroun Zehra
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 15:13 Post subject:
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Maybe they could offer Hussein the same amount of money to leave and never come back... then assasinate him when he gets where he's going.
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 15:16 Post subject:
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Baghdad's capital city will never be in Paris, SINCE THEY ARE BOTH f*****g CITIES.
Baghdad is a city
Paris is a city
Iraq is a country
France is a country
Baghdad is the capital of Iraq!
Paris is the capital of France!
And you are a f*****g moron!
WTG YOU!
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Sasa
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 15:18 Post subject:
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don"t we have several bases there? I know my ex is in turkey and he is in the air force. We were already moving troops over there when things began to look sketchy.
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Haroun Zehra
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 15:25 Post subject:
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I think the base in Turkey is a NATO base.
It's one thing to have a NATO advance post there. It's something completely different to use the country's own resources to stage a major land invasion.
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The Gossipmonger
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 17:59 Post subject:
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Well, you are attacking Iraq, ostensibly to help foster democracy in the region, yet God forbid, when a country makes a democratic decision, which in this case happens to be not to let your troops through, you get bent out of shape and start whining like little hyporcitical b*****s.
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Pags
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 18:01 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | Baghdad's capital city will never be in Paris, SINCE THEY ARE BOTH f*****g CITIES.
Baghdad is a city
Paris is a city
Iraq is a country
France is a country
Baghdad is the capital of Iraq!
Paris is the capital of France!
And you are a f*****g moron!
WTG YOU! |
hahahaha, nice.
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compusmack
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 18:07 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | Baghdad's capital city will never be in Paris, SINCE THEY ARE BOTH f*****g CITIES.
Baghdad is a city
Paris is a city
Iraq is a country
France is a country
Baghdad is the capital of Iraq!
Paris is the capital of France!
And you are a f*****g moron!
WTG YOU! |
LOL i was thinking exactly the same thing about that comment.
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atarom
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Posted: 03/03/03 - 22:38 Post subject:
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i thought this thread was about a bird =(
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