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Wulfheart
Sir Postalot
Joined: 12 Oct 2002
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 Posted: 12/01/04 - 14:38 Post subject: Torn between
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Hunter, Warlock or Druid....
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Devook
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Joined: 31 Mar 2004
Posts: 2373
Location: Ypsilanti or Troy, MI
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Posted: 12/01/04 - 16:16 Post subject:
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If you like being important pick druid.
If you like jerking off pick warlock.
If you like pokemon pick hunter.
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GruntingCod
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 6399
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Posted: 12/01/04 - 16:57 Post subject:
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What side? That all depends hehe.
If you want alliance, go Dorf Hunter. Horde, I can't suggest anything since I am neutral with thoes classes.
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ashwynd
RealPoor Sensei
Joined: 26 Aug 2003
Posts: 1686
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Posted: 12/01/04 - 21:01 Post subject:
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if you don't want to hate life, play something besides those 3, they all get very aggravating, I've played all 3 
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Gethy
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 5595
Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 00:24 Post subject:
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Druids are rape victims. They can heal fairly well, but the druids who know what they're doing are few and far between in the lower levels. My suggestion if you choose to be a druid: don't be that guy. The one in cat or bear form screaming, "I'm helping!" as you neglect your healing duties.
That or they use regrowth. Exclusively. I think the only time I ever used that was when I procced my Omen of Clarity. A mana-free direct heal + HoT for free, stack on a Rejuv. Efficient, but that's very circumstancial.
Only played a druid to about 34, though.
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atarom
Dalai Lama of RealPoor
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 16395
Location: 375th st. Y
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 10:30 Post subject:
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i LOVE my orc hunter
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Gethy
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 5595
Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 10:58 Post subject:
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I wonder how many Orc Hunters and Orc Warlocks there are. 
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Frehya
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 12:55 Post subject:
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ehh... I play a druid and although only lvl 25, I've been able to regrowth heal a tank without the agro the priests were getting. (my regular heals were drawing agro) We failed on one elite several levels above us with 3 healers, a warrior and druid, so we changed our strat to me going cat form, got behind while the warrior held agro and played pseudo rogue to help take down a mob that we werent able to do until I stopped pure healing. Where we were barely scratching him before, we chipped his hp down pretty fast.
I dont think its a black and white issue, every circumstance is different and everyone plays their char differently, with a variety of expectations from the class.
I know that I am playing a class that I know is getting alot of dissing and I've decided not to pay any attention to it, as I personally enjoy having the variety of spells and abilities to use in however the situation dictates. Some people complain that we arent the best at anything, but I see it as being able to fill in at almost anything as its needed. I like the variety and get bored with more one dimensional classes.
My views may change later as I get towards the end game and really get a chance to see how its all going to weigh out. I dont think beta showed us everything as its going to remain.
Having watched people flit from the flavor of the month class in EQ for the past almost 6 years, I dont worry about whats cool or the best, I prefer to play what I enjoy. Luckily, if I dont like it, leveling isnt the grind it is in EQ.
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Gethy
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 13:23 Post subject:
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| Frehya wrote: | ehh... I play a druid and although only lvl 25, I've been able to regrowth heal a tank without the agro the priests were getting. (my regular heals were drawing agro) We failed on one elite several levels above us with 3 healers, a warrior and druid, so we changed our strat to me going cat form, got behind while the warrior held agro and played pseudo rogue to help take down a mob that we werent able to do until I stopped pure healing. Where we were barely scratching him before, we chipped his hp down pretty fast.
I dont think its a black and white issue, every circumstance is different and everyone plays their char differently, with a variety of expectations from the class.
I know that I am playing a class that I know is getting alot of dissing and I've decided not to pay any attention to it, as I personally enjoy having the variety of spells and abilities to use in however the situation dictates. Some people complain that we arent the best at anything, but I see it as being able to fill in at almost anything as its needed. I like the variety and get bored with more one dimensional classes.
My views may change later as I get towards the end game and really get a chance to see how its all going to weigh out. I dont think beta showed us everything as its going to remain.
Having watched people flit from the flavor of the month class in EQ for the past almost 6 years, I dont worry about whats cool or the best, I prefer to play what I enjoy. Luckily, if I dont like it, leveling isnt the grind it is in EQ. |
Nah, I liked my druid. But there aren't a great lot of situations like that, you have to understand, where you'll be surrounded by healers.
I played a druid as well. I know when these situations arise. That is exactly what cat form is for, an ability to fit the role that otherwise wouldn't have been contained in your group. Bear form as well.
But there are a few people that really ruin the class. The ones who overuse the forms, completely forgetting about bi-ped. The ones who only b***h about their class shortcomings. The ones that don't use Moonfire, ever, when bi-ped. And, as well, the ones that don't adapt to the group's needs.
Then again, all three of those priests could have very well been of the same ilk as other brainless healer class players. They could have gone pure DPS and expected the druid to heal. You really never know, and it might be boorish and seem nonessential, but it's always best to sort out roles, even in the 20s. If anything it'll atleast help some newbs figure out decent strats.
But Rejuv. + DD Heal is your friend. It shouldn't get you aggro unless your tank doesn't know what he's doing.
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ashwynd
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Joined: 26 Aug 2003
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 15:07 Post subject:
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Coming from someone who played a druid to 60 and did all the instances up until Onyxia/Molten Core, I can safely say that you will almost never use healing touch in the high end game and you will be using regrowth a TON. It's sad that it came down to that, but the mobs just hit too damn hard with the casting time we have from healing touch to be as efficient as a druid would like it to be, unless you have that talent that shaves off 1 sec from your next heal, then by all means use that :p
I had over 6k mana at 60, so I could toss up enough regrowths during fights where I wouldn't always be oom, but I always had to carry mana pots. Willis and I would ping pong mobs with our heals, good times.
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Frehya
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 15:17 Post subject:
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its good to hear that the dot heals turned out to be the best option, because that has been my instinct to use.
I remember getting "schooled" by a guy in beta that I shouldnt use them as they weren't mana efficient, but the luxury of long casts just wasnt there with the amount of damage the tanks were taking in an instance dungeon.
and faerie fire is a nice little debuff. now if I just had malos......
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Vila
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Joined: 09 Nov 2002
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 17:38 Post subject:
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I am loving my druid.
there are some crappy druids out there.. i have been in a couple groups with some druids who dont use thier heal at all, when we are the only two healers and i go oom.
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ashwynd
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 17:44 Post subject:
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Well, regrowth really isn't very mana efficient at all. The only reason it's used so extensively is the fact that it's our only quick heal and rejuv even with talents doesn't make or break a life/death situation quite like regrowth does. Also a problem with regrowth is that it grabs insane agro, so the subtlety might be worth obtaining from the talents (I never tried subtlety myself, what can I say I'm a tank at heart).
Regrowth only becomes useful in the low 50's from what I saw, up until that I tried to reserve it for emergency situations, it all depends on how pimped out your gear is. Malos would make me play a druid again just for the PvP aspect :p
Wulf, if you narrowed it down to those 3 this is how I would categorize them:
Druid = the underdog who might end up becoming extremely powerful once hero classes come into play (which aren't even on the list of almost being finished apparently)
Warlock = another semi underdog (hell, we only have 1 in our guild of 38 people), pretty much a CoH b***h who can assist with crowd control and nice dps over longer periods of time with little burst dps. Summoning healthstones etc. is nice, but CoH b***h is why I never even considered it for retail
Hunter = I played one to 43 as my twink in beta and I loved it. Granted I HATE having to take care of it like a f*****g tamaguchi and losing a bag slot to a quiver/ammo pouch, but such is life. We have great burst dps and we're insane in PvP, I've become quite used to taking people out 5 levels above me and before talents were implemented I was taking out mages 7 levels above me. I'm still learning the class and figuring our our strengths and weaknesses.
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 13293
Location: Moral Relativity Central
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 18:09 Post subject:
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I hate the gunshot sound effects, bows are always a couple DPS behind, so that rules out hunter.
I played 2 Warlocks so maybe just got burnt out. Was highly annoyed with voidwalker at the time, but allegedly it has been fixed. Self-rez with the soul stones is awesome. Not sure if that has been nerfed.
Druid is a lot of fun and the bear form is adorable. Hell, 90% of the reason I played a beastlord in EQ was how cute the bear model was. I think dru/shm are like bards of eq: diverse and slightly more in-depth than some classes.
With potions and tradeskills, pretty much any class can solo.
I would just pick the class whose eligible races look coolest to you. 
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Gethy
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: 12/02/04 - 18:19 Post subject:
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I love my Paladin.
But I loved my druid, too. In the low end, I guess Healing Touch is just the way to go. I went Balance to get Omen of Clarity, which helped out a lot so far as grinding went. I'm sure it would have merrited a respec by the high end, but it was beta and not even my account.
But I love my paladin.
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