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Akronn
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 Posted: 03/19/03 - 10:18 Post subject: Re: The US to go alone while the whole world is frustrated?
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| Manuva wrote: |
Poll a rightwing region or network, you'll get a rightwing favor.
Poll a leftwing demographic, you'll get leftwing favor.
Polls mean jack and shit. |
Polls conducted by reputable sources are a bit more responsible than that, they know it would be meaningless to call all, say... university dorms. They cross demographics as best they can.
My advice to you is: if a poll disagrees with your opinion *gasp*, learn to cope with it. If polls meant 'jack and shit', nobody would bother. I actually did this in college for a year btw...
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Frostkiss
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 10:27 Post subject:
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| Celestra wrote: | | Frostkiss wrote: | | Celestra wrote: | | make no mistake about that. |
Yes, make no mistake about it rofl |
Just because Bush is fond of saying this phrase, does not mean it's not just part of the regular english idiom. So ha ha.. Funny. |
How can you use the phrase NOT thinking about it tho
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Maelstrom
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OMG THIS IS A RP FIRST 2 WOMAN ARGUING!!!!!!!!
GO GIRLS CHEAP SHOTS ARE PERMITED!
Remember girls, NO woman degrading words permited such as : s**t, w***e, b***h, c**t.
Start!!!
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Xthos
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Well, last poll I saw was 66% agreed in the U.S., but be it 56, 66, 76, or hell even 50.1 ... That is a majority, so get over it.
Political backing is just fine, we don't need 100-1000 people from this nation, and that nation screwing logistics up anyway. This war will be fought with technology for the most part, so don't need 500,000 troops.
Last check their was supposedly 30 nations politically supporting the war, with 15 others that didn't want named at the moment, which I wouldn't count. If ya don't want named atm, then I don't call it support, but 30 nations is more then 1.
I think you all know its pointless to argue this, we have all been around with our opinions, and I don't think I have seen one person really change their opinion. The war is coming, we will see what Saddam really has/had, how well he is REALLY liked by his people etc...
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 10:44 Post subject:
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Well its a bad start since Iraq while political chamber said that they will all die for Saddam.
Of course once bullets will flies they might all changes their mind.
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Finigan
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 10:47 Post subject:
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The only thing more pathetic than women fighting is eurotrash women fighting!
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Celestra
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 10:49 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | OMG THIS IS A RP FIRST 2 WOMAN ARGUING!!!!!!!!
GO GIRLS CHEAP SHOTS ARE PERMITED!
Remember girls, NO woman degrading words permited such as : s**t, w***e, b***h, c**t.
Start!!! |
| Finigan wrote: | | The only thing more pathetic than women fighting is eurotrash women fighting! |
If you call this fighting you've lived a very very sheltered life.
I was merely pointing something out. So was she. /shrug
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 10:51 Post subject:
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Well if you both can fake an orgasm you can both fake a fight 
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sinrakin
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My prediction:
- the war will go relatively quickly: we'll control Bagdad inside of two months. There will be limited casualties, but more than in the first gulf war.
- Saddam will disappear. Or he'll be captured, and proceed to defend himself at great length a la Milosovich in a trial that goes on for years
- We'll keep Iraq basically peaceful, but it will be like trying to quiet a room full of squabbling children. Every time we turn our attention away, the Turks or the Kurds or the Iranians or some local warlord will try to grab something. There'll be a lot of corruption in whatever government gets set up. There will be constant low level guerilla action forever. We'll have a lot of troops tied up there for a long time, and it will cost a lot of money. We'll close some bases in Europe to compensate.
- We'll use our control over the government to influence oil and redevelopment contracts and use them to regain some of the political capital we spent to create the war in the first place.
- Once it's clear the war's going well, most of the other countries in the world will jump on board, and say that it was for the best, even if it was for the wrong reasons.
- There will be more terrorist attacks in the US. They will continue for at least two generations. Living with terrorism will become a way of life for us for the next 40 years at least.
- Nothing meaningful will be done about Israel
P.S. re: girls fighting: more hair pulling please 
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Xthos
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 10:55 Post subject:
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Well, when theirs people around that will shoot you if you say anything other than that, I bet you would say that you would die for Saddam too, till he turned his back, then get outta there.
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Celestra
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 10:58 Post subject:
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| Xthos wrote: | | Well, when theirs people around that will shoot you if you say anything other than that, I bet you would say that you would die for Saddam too, till he turned his back, then get outta there. |
No shit.
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Maelstrom
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When they will hear the US comming , I bet ya that Saddam and his son will get shot by their own people ...
Look American I killed Saddam me your friend gimme money!!!
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Aviger
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Frankly i'd be more worried that when the US removes Saddam from power theres going to be a serious amount of upset people with ties to "freelance" terrorists that will try to fek up the US for all their money.
Since they have nothing to loose anymore attacks could get more brutal then 9/11.
On the other hand something some guy on the dutch news last nite kinda struck me as true.
Even with all the scared people and the threats and al-qaida and such, since 9/11 (about 1.5 years ago) there has not been 1 single terrorist attack on the US.
And before 9/11 it was what? one or two years before anythign major happened also.
Look at places like israel where theres a suicide bomber every week almost.
The US aint even in that bad a position.
The fact the UN wont do anything or "cant" do anything is imo because it's a political force.
It's not a "country" like the US who can command their own troops at a moments notice. It has to ask troops from other countries with yet more political b******t people etc etc.
A true global peace system will never be attained unless there are no countries left.
Yes that sounds like hippy happy utopia talking.. but if you think about it it's true.
It's human nature to want what someone else has. And as long as that someone else is in another (weaker) country it's easy to f**k em up to get it.
It's f**k Top..but reality.
The US just wants to show they are the best. All this about 9/11? b******t.
The US has been given out claims that most of al-qaida has been eliminated.
So the threat is minimal. Saddam may supply money to terrorist but a well executed assasination can deal with that.
Actually having to invade Iraq to take him out? yeah right. Oil is getting to expensive, and the US is being made to look like a wussy for getting their head chopped off and not doing anything since then (9/11 i mean).
This is as much about US ego needing a boost as it is about "freeing" iraq.
Anyone who is delusional enough to honestly thinkg the US is just doing this out of the goodness of their heart needs a good thrashing sense of reality.
They cant even get a good healthcare system working or remove poverty from their own country, but they will save others?
Give me a f*****g break
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Celestra
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Luturb
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| Aviger wrote: |
Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...
Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...
Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one. |
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Fluxus the Rogue
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 11:53 Post subject:
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| Aviger wrote: |
The US just wants to show they are the best. All this about 9/11? b******t.
The US has been given out claims that most of al-qaida has been eliminated.
So the threat is minimal. Saddam may supply money to terrorist but a well executed assasination can deal with that.
Actually having to invade Iraq to take him out? yeah right. Oil is getting to expensive, and the US is being made to look like a wussy for getting their head chopped off and not doing anything since then (9/11 i mean). |
1) The US doesn't need to trounce a 3rd world nation to prove we are the best. Our military is far superior to any other nation on the planet. Everybody knows this. The purpose of removing Saddam is to remove a threat. We believe he supplies funding and materials to terrorist organizations. That is all that is required under our new foreign policy: We will take out terrorists and those that HARBOR them in order to protect ourselves. It is not 100% about Al Qaida agents hijacking planes and killing 3,000 innocent Americans. However, that day, 9/11, was the starting point for this new policy.
2) Al Qaida has been seriously impaired as an organization. But they are not yet totally eliminated. We will stay the course and eliminate all threats to our country.
3) Assassination is illegal and has been for over 40 years. However, in a formal declaration of war, Saddam is considered an enemy combatant. You will see us attempt to take him out as soon as the attack begins. Well known reports place the Delta Force around Bagdhad right now. Their primary initiative is killing Saddam and his sons.
4) For the 1 millionth time... this IS NOT ABOUT OIL!!! We get less than 5% of our oil from that region of the world. How many f*****g times to we have to repeat this FACT!
5) How can you say "The US is being made to look like a wussy for getting their head chopped off and not doing anything since then (9/11 i mean)"??? We simply overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan and installed a new government. We have hunted down and destroyed known terrorists (The CIA launching a missle from an unmanned drone has to be my favorite, by the way). We are now forcing regime change in Iraq. We will then turn our attention to other nations that pose a risk to us, including North Korea.
In short, your post was ridiculous. It was full of inaccuracies and high-lighted your ignorance. You, undoubtedly, live in one of the countries that just got a big f**k YOU from the United States. You, and all of the other cowards that post here, need to understand one thing: The United States will do whatever WE FEEL is required to protect ourselves and we don't give a shit what the French, Germans, Russians or any other two-faced nation of cowards has to say about it.
We are finding out right now who are allies are (UK, Australia, Spain, etc.) and those are the nations that we will help when they request it. Iraq is our problem now. We're dealing with the problem. Go back to your cafe and shut the f**k up. It's time for the Big Boys to go to work.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 11:56 Post subject:
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Fluxus STFU, and go jump in the next plane to do youre part instead of trash talking. p***y!
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sinrakin
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Looks like Saddam actually does have an option - Bahrain has offered him asylum. I'm not sure if that means Bahrain is on our side, or his. I almost wonder if Saddam couldn't f**k with us more by accepting asylum, then by letting us go in and conquer the country.
| Quote: | MANAMA, Bahrain (CNN) -- Bahrain's king has offered "safe exile" to Saddam Hussein, saying he hopes the Iraqi leader "would seriously consider this offer before the onset of war," the government-run Bahrain News Agency said Wednesday.
Bahrain's palace, the seat of government, confirmed the offer, according to Bahrain TV.
King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa "announced that Bahrain is willing to accommodate Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, if he wishes to reside here, with dignity and without disgrace to Iraq."
The king said that Bahrain's initiative "comes as part of its nationalistic responsibilities, towards ensuring security and stability in the region, in order to avoid war on Iraq and its people."
The offer came during the Cabinet's "extraordinary emergency session," when the king was asked "what would be a solution to avert war and destruction."
The king said that "in order to avoid war and destruction, the Iraqi president must relinquish his authority to parties capable of finding a solution to the situation, and secure Iraq's honor and dignity." |
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Fluxus the Rogue
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 12:13 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | | Fluxus STFU, and go jump in the next plane to do youre part instead of trash talking. p***y! |
Unlike you, I actually live in the U.S.A. and do "my part" every day. As far as I am concerned you have no credibility and offer only entertainment here. I must admit that having someone like you call me a p***y was a stroke of comic genius. You, sir, are the Master of Irony. Keep up the good work.
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Maelstrom
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lol like you have any credibility and that cause you live in the US you actually know more about whats going on.
Youre just a pion and when daddy Bush wil ltell ya..you will go get a bullet and stfu like a good American.
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Luturb
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| Maelstrom wrote: | | Youre just a pion |
pi·on n. A semistable meson produced either in a neutral form with a mass 264 times that of an electron and a mean lifetime of 8.4 × 10-17 seconds or in a positively or negatively charged form with a mass 273 times that of an electron and a mean lifetime of 2.6 × 10-8 seconds. Also called pi meson
Take that you subatomic particle!
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Jinu
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 12:44 Post subject:
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i can't believe maelstrom is talking smack, and people give a f**k.
also in the news, 15 iraqis have already surrendered. to do so, they had to cross the border into kuwait where the army was getting ready to go.
iraqis really are like the french
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 12:46 Post subject:
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No Jinu they just want to live and no die for a f*****g moron.
If all the soldiers would do so, then they could all help rebuild Iraq.
Little diff between being a coward and just plain stupid.
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Jinu
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 14:01 Post subject:
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so are you saying the french are both cowards AND plain stupid?
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 14:53 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | No Jinu they just want to live and no die for a f*****g moron.
If all the soldiers would do so, then they could all help rebuild Iraq.
Little diff between being a coward and just plain stupid. |
Its fun to watch a confirmed retard spout off on the subject of stupidity.
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| Fluxus the Rogue wrote: | | Aviger wrote: |
The US just wants to show they are the best. All this about 9/11? b******t.
The US has been given out claims that most of al-qaida has been eliminated.
So the threat is minimal. Saddam may supply money to terrorist but a well executed assasination can deal with that.
Actually having to invade Iraq to take him out? yeah right. Oil is getting to expensive, and the US is being made to look like a wussy for getting their head chopped off and not doing anything since then (9/11 i mean). |
1) The US doesn't need to trounce a 3rd world nation to prove we are the best. Our military is far superior to any other nation on the planet. Everybody knows this. The purpose of removing Saddam is to remove a threat. We believe he supplies funding and materials to terrorist organizations. That is all that is required under our new foreign policy: We will take out terrorists and those that HARBOR them in order to protect ourselves. It is not 100% about Al Qaida agents hijacking planes and killing 3,000 innocent Americans. However, that day, 9/11, was the starting point for this new policy.
2) Al Qaida has been seriously impaired as an organization. But they are not yet totally eliminated. We will stay the course and eliminate all threats to our country.
3) Assassination is illegal and has been for over 40 years. However, in a formal declaration of war, Saddam is considered an enemy combatant. You will see us attempt to take him out as soon as the attack begins. Well known reports place the Delta Force around Bagdhad right now. Their primary initiative is killing Saddam and his sons.
4) For the 1 millionth time... this IS NOT ABOUT OIL!!! We get less than 5% of our oil from that region of the world. How many f*****g times to we have to repeat this FACT!
5) How can you say "The US is being made to look like a wussy for getting their head chopped off and not doing anything since then (9/11 i mean)"??? We simply overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan and installed a new government. We have hunted down and destroyed known terrorists (The CIA launching a missle from an unmanned drone has to be my favorite, by the way). We are now forcing regime change in Iraq. We will then turn our attention to other nations that pose a risk to us, including North Korea.
In short, your post was ridiculous. It was full of inaccuracies and high-lighted your ignorance. You, undoubtedly, live in one of the countries that just got a big f**k YOU from the United States. You, and all of the other cowards that post here, need to understand one thing: The United States will do whatever WE FEEL is required to protect ourselves and we don't give a shit what the French, Germans, Russians or any other two-faced nation of cowards has to say about it.
We are finding out right now who are allies are (UK, Australia, Spain, etc.) and those are the nations that we will help when they request it. Iraq is our problem now. We're dealing with the problem. Go back to your cafe and shut the f**k up. It's time for the Big Boys to go to work. |
What he said.
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Rennol
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Listening to the replies of the European realpoor'ers to U.S. posters' views is quite comical. Do people actually think that way? If half the people in Holland think the way Cuddle does, then I can see why the world doesn't like us or what we're doing. However, it also vindicates us, because we know they are wrong about everything they say.
Kind of a catch-22 there.
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WheresNWS
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 15:14 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | No Jinu they just want to live and no die for a f*****g moron.
If all the soldiers would do so, then they could all help rebuild Iraq.
Little diff between being a coward and just plain stupid. |
Shut the f**k up, frenchy.
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 15:21 Post subject: Re: The US to go alone while the whole world is frustrated?
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| Akronn wrote: | | Manuva wrote: |
It's true! Why?
Well...because...it's a poll...and everybody knows CNN/ABC/CBS/MSNBC/FoxNews polls every American citizen on the planet!
People who post poll results and actually believe them to amount to three shakes of a cats c**k should be stabbed in the neck with a fork. |
You obviously never took any political science statistics courses. You don't have to poll every person to get an accurate response, that's what error margins are for. We have polls literally down to a science. |
I have an anonymous gateway free proxy list with 32k entries. I could set up a macro to let it hit the poll then switch proxies and do it all over again and it'd be done in a few days.
After those few days, there would be 32k votes for yes or no depending on which direction I felt like skewing the poll in.
Any and every anti-war fanatic could easily accomplish this and would probably do it in the blink of an eye. Just look at all the shit they're doing already.
Polls can be pretty accurate, as long as they're not held over the f*****g internet.
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Akronn
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Posted: 03/19/03 - 15:33 Post subject:
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We were talking about polls conducted by reputable sources. It goes without saying that you shouldn't trust a poll you read on Joe's Bring Down America 2003 Militia Fiesta Site.
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