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Nahualli
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 Posted: 05/26/04 - 03:17 Post subject: Terrorist Attack Planned for the Summer
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This may be a repost.. but I saw this on the news...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040526/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/terror_threat&cid=542&ncid=716
I just have to wonder now.. not that I really enjoy the possibility of being in the middle of an attack of the sort they are alluding to, but does anyone think it's a bit unsettling that every month roughly there is a "serious yet anonymous and unsubstatntiated" claim that there is going to be a terrorist attack?
I think what I find the funniest is that it's always coming from "a high-ranking administration official who spoke on condition of anonymity"... I mean why? If these people are dedicated to keeping the pupulation informed and aware, and if they are so concerned with being taken seriously... why are they hiding their names?
I'm really torn on this one. On the one hand I think it's owed to the people in the security agencies that can know about these things before hand.. on the other hand I'm not sure if this only feeds into people's paranoia.. as it is we seem to be driven by fear as a society.. what do you all think?
-Nah-
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Celestra
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What's the point in making this public if there's no date/place attached?
It's not like the general public can do something to prevent it from happening really. So these government officials should just keep it under wraps and try to make sure the 'threat', perceived or otherwise, is properly dealt with by the necessary authorities.
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Banzai
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 04:30 Post subject:
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blah blah blah
unless I see results I consider "the threat" the form of terror and I don't care
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Ciladar
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 06:43 Post subject:
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Good plan...lets warm then about an attack!
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khrath
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 06:44 Post subject:
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it's only speculation, so why bother even mentioning it
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Tamena
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 08:09 Post subject:
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the theory is to keep people on their toes. if they see something suspicious they're more likely to react to it if they're actually looking for it to happen.
imho I think it's almost having the opposite effect tho, people are getting so use to hearing this stuff they're becoming immune to the possability of attack...not me syndrome.
living near NYC and having people we knew die in the trade centers, it's a very real concern here. I wouldn't put it past any of the terrorist to try NY again, or Philly this time maybe, and where we are is right in the middle of the two.
What bothers me is what announcements like this does to the kids. My 12 yr old "reads" the news paper now. She started with the comics and Ann Landers, but now skims the whole thing after finding out there really is interesting stuff in there some times 
Every time there's another warning announced she gets worried...
she's 12 yrs old...why should she have to worry about stuff like this?? that's my job, not hers.
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 09:16 Post subject:
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| TamenaEverlost wrote: | the theory is to keep people on their toes. if they see something suspicious they're more likely to react to it if they're actually looking for it to happen.
imho I think it's almost having the opposite effect tho, people are getting so use to hearing this stuff they're becoming immune to the possability of attack...not me syndrome.
living near NYC and having people we knew die in the trade centers, it's a very real concern here. I wouldn't put it past any of the terrorist to try NY again, or Philly this time maybe, and where we are is right in the middle of the two.
What bothers me is what announcements like this does to the kids. My 12 yr old "reads" the news paper now. She started with the comics and Ann Landers, but now skims the whole thing after finding out there really is interesting stuff in there some times
Every time there's another warning announced she gets worried...
she's 12 yrs old...why should she have to worry about stuff like this?? that's my job, not hers. |
I got a better theory. Stop crying wolf.
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Tamena
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 09:22 Post subject:
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uuummm...that's kinda what I meant?
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Rennol
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 09:37 Post subject:
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Or you could teach your kid about the realities of the world. 12 years old, time to grow up.
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Ikkan
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 09:42 Post subject:
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| Rennol wrote: | | Or you could teach your kid about the realities of the world. 12 years old, time to grow up. |
I'm agreeing with Rennol? Scary, huh? Seriously though, it's a different world now, you can't shelter your kids in little lolly-pop lands forever. By the time they start reading the newspaper to find out current events is the time they are mature enough to start growing up and realizing what the world is like.
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Celestra
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 09:45 Post subject:
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Then let the kid worried about what's real, not some conjecture that might be true, and might not be true, and even if true might not happen (yet). I think that's Tam's point: there's plenty to worry about without worrying about some vague 'threat'. When there is information to substantiate any threat, I'm sure it'll be soon enough to start worrying.
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Ikkan
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 09:48 Post subject:
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| Celestra wrote: | | Then let the kid worried about what's real, not some conjecture that might be true, and might not be true, and even if true might not happen (yet). I think that's Tam's point: there's plenty to worry about without worrying about some vague 'threat'. When there is information to substantiate any threat, I'm sure it'll be soon enough to start worrying. |
So they are not supposed to give any warning, yet at the same time if they didn't and there was an attack people would be going "OGMZZ U NEVAR TOLD US FUQ U!!!1!11!1", would you rather have some knowledge about what might happen to you, or be left in the dark?
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Celestra
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 09:54 Post subject:
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| Ikkan wrote: | | Celestra wrote: | | Then let the kid worried about what's real, not some conjecture that might be true, and might not be true, and even if true might not happen (yet). I think that's Tam's point: there's plenty to worry about without worrying about some vague 'threat'. When there is information to substantiate any threat, I'm sure it'll be soon enough to start worrying. |
So they are not supposed to give any warning, yet at the same time if they didn't and there was an attack people would be going "OGMZZ U NEVAR TOLD US FUQ U!!!1!11!1", would you rather have some knowledge about what might happen to you, or be left in the dark? |
What knowledge? There is no knowledge to speak of. That's the point.
If you don't know, by now, that you could be the victim of a terrorist attack, you deserve to be killed. No need to reiterate that fact every day. Live your lives.
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Paco
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 09:55 Post subject:
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You guys are f*****g stupid.
Cept for Tam..
Seriously. They tell you about this so you're aware of the possiblity. Some citizens will actually be paying attention to suspicious activity, which may thwart a plan if a key member is arrested for something in preperation to the event they plan. You never know if something like this is going to happen because it depends on the actual perps involved. They won't be nice and give us a date and time, but sometimes they may give a generalistic statement just prior....sometimes, but not often.
As for kids..they notice alot of things. Things you may take for granted. And while they may not understand what's going on, they can bring it to an adult's attention who may have a clue, and may pick up the phone to let the authorities know.
Jesus. You guys are a funny bunch, but dumb as bricks sometimes.
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Ikkan
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 09:58 Post subject:
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| Celestra wrote: | | Ikkan wrote: | | Celestra wrote: | | Then let the kid worried about what's real, not some conjecture that might be true, and might not be true, and even if true might not happen (yet). I think that's Tam's point: there's plenty to worry about without worrying about some vague 'threat'. When there is information to substantiate any threat, I'm sure it'll be soon enough to start worrying. |
So they are not supposed to give any warning, yet at the same time if they didn't and there was an attack people would be going "OGMZZ U NEVAR TOLD US FUQ U!!!1!11!1", would you rather have some knowledge about what might happen to you, or be left in the dark? |
What knowledge? There is no knowledge to speak of. That's the point.
If you don't know, by now, that you could be the victim of a terrorist attack, you deserve to be killed. No need to reiterate that fact every day. Live your lives. |
These warnings have helped out in the past in apprehending people, so why stop now?
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Tamena
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 10:52 Post subject:
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yes and no Ikkan.
the warnings have also made life a living hell for a lot of people that don't deserve it.
I guess what bothers me is the constant barage of warnings we get every day...don't do this, don't eat that, oh wait, eat that but don't eat much of it NO! now don't eat it at all...oh and btw eating htat can make you live longer now.
Granted, as an adult I'm able to take things as they come, decide for myself what I feel comfortable accepting and use common sense to determine what's right and wrong for me. Kids tho don't.
At 12 what did you worry about? Everyone here...not just Ikkan
seriously? How much allowance you were getting that week? If you studied enough for that test? Should you go to that school dance? Is your friend mad at ya?
I don't want my daughter to "grow up" that fast...I want her to be a kid and enjoy the stupid stuff I enjoyed when things were a lot simpler...
being bored out of your mind during the summer
swimming in a swimming hole and watching the dragon flies
horse back riding in a field, anticipating Christmas and birthdays, knowing Mom and Dad are there if you need em...
OK maybe I'm being too simple and too protective of my children, but that's the way I feel about it. Let them be kids...leave the worrying to the adults.
*shrug*
flame away I guess...kids have enough of their own crap to go thru imho.
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Xismakin
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 11:24 Post subject:
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Bush forgot to warn us about this:
So now he wants to stay safe and yell every treat there could be
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Alerik
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 11:48 Post subject:
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Shut the f**k up skeletor.
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Syke
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 12:31 Post subject:
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| Alerik wrote: | | Shut the f**k up skeletor. |
hahahaha
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Vila
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 12:35 Post subject:
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I HAVE THE POWER OF GREY SKULL!
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 12:50 Post subject:
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Well 1 fact since sept 11th no other terrorists attack occured in the US. If you compare this fact to whats going on in Iraq I think you guys really need to relax a bit.
But I do find it strange that no other terrorist attack happened in the US yet..maybe they all wait? maybe they are no treats? time will tell but if you guys always live up with the Fear of a odd of an attack it will mean that they have won.
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Vekril
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 13:18 Post subject:
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just remember that all of this is brought to you courtesy of Islam, the religion of peace and love
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Ikkan
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 14:27 Post subject:
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I really think that most of it has to do with the media rather than with the warnings that the government gives out. Every little scare or warning becomes the big topic for the media and it is the only thing that they ever talk about for a week or more straight.
Take for example back when they found that one cow that had mad cow disease, One cow, a single, solitary cow. Three weeks later I heard during a commercial: "Is the Mad Cow threat over? We'll tell you at 11!". The media will take any little bit of a threat that they can find and exploit it to no end.
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Banzai
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 14:30 Post subject:
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| Ikkan wrote: | I really think that most of it has to do with the media rather than with the warnings that the government gives out. Every little scare or warning becomes the big topic for the media and it is the only thing that they ever talk about for a week or more straight.
Take for example back when they found that one cow that had mad cow disease, One cow, a single, solitary cow. Three weeks later I heard during a commercial: "Is the Mad Cow threat over? We'll tell you at 11!". The media will take any little bit of a threat that they can find and exploit it to no end. |
One serin shell...
Yea, people can just get carried away huh?
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 14:33 Post subject:
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BE AFRAID
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Ikkan
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 14:34 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | | Ikkan wrote: | I really think that most of it has to do with the media rather than with the warnings that the government gives out. Every little scare or warning becomes the big topic for the media and it is the only thing that they ever talk about for a week or more straight.
Take for example back when they found that one cow that had mad cow disease, One cow, a single, solitary cow. Three weeks later I heard during a commercial: "Is the Mad Cow threat over? We'll tell you at 11!". The media will take any little bit of a threat that they can find and exploit it to no end. |
One serin shell...
Yea, people can just get carried away huh? |
Idiot, the Sarin shell PROVED of WMDs in Iraq, is Sarin a weapon? Yes. Does it cause destruction? Yes. Is there a lot of destruction sometimes? Yes! omg, wmd!
There is a difference with this in the fact that there is only a probable cause of something, not hard factual evidence, fuckwit.
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Banzai
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 16:24 Post subject:
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| Ikkan wrote: | | Banzai wrote: | | Ikkan wrote: | I really think that most of it has to do with the media rather than with the warnings that the government gives out. Every little scare or warning becomes the big topic for the media and it is the only thing that they ever talk about for a week or more straight.
Take for example back when they found that one cow that had mad cow disease, One cow, a single, solitary cow. Three weeks later I heard during a commercial: "Is the Mad Cow threat over? We'll tell you at 11!". The media will take any little bit of a threat that they can find and exploit it to no end. |
One serin shell...
Yea, people can just get carried away huh? |
Idiot, the Sarin shell PROVED of WMDs in Iraq, is Sarin a weapon? Yes. Does it cause destruction? Yes. Is there a lot of destruction sometimes? Yes! omg, wmd!
There is a difference with this in the fact that there is only a probable cause of something, not hard factual evidence, fuckwit. |
Hahahaha watching you cross yourself is so amusing to me.
Keep up the good work.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 16:32 Post subject:
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| Vekril wrote: | | just remember that all of this is brought to you courtesy of Islam, the religion of peace and love |
In case youve been missing the last few weeks we sure cant say that Israeli is better.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 16:36 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | | Vekril wrote: | | just remember that all of this is brought to you courtesy of Islam, the religion of peace and love |
In case youve been missing the last few weeks we sure cant say that Israeli is better. |
Or crusades and world wars brought to you by Christians.
I don't think religions actually cause wars. I think religions are tools used by people who want to cause wars.
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Petr
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Posted: 05/26/04 - 16:38 Post subject:
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This thread is funny.
Someone needs to bump this thread if/when another attack hits the US so we can compare the whining and crying of "we werent warned" bs to this thread about the complaining about being warned.
Funny, truely.
FOOLZ!
Someone above mentioned that they dont wanna know unless they have a date and time.
FOOLZ! if they had a date and time, do you think they would need to announce it? Ill take logic for 200 alex.
That was the most ridiculous statement of this thread, which has alot of ridiculous statements in it.
It is important for america to be on their toes. It is important for us to know when things pick up on this front. We need to know so we can be alert and watchful, and maybe someone who is paying attention will be able to spot something fishy going on. For those of you who dont live in the US, wait until you get bombed, and see how things change for your country.
And, as Vekril so rightly stated, this is brought to you by Islam, the religion of peace.
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