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killsaw6
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 Posted: 05/12/08 - 08:44 Post subject:
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| Rav wrote: | | It depends what it is that they're tanking. All round I'd say warrior tanks were best, but paladin tanks excell in a number of places, such as heroic Magister's Terrace, paladin tanks are the best choice here. |
Not really because tehre AOE tanks and will break CC which is a must for that instance
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alienstroker
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Posted: 05/12/08 - 12:18 Post subject:
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| realblade wrote: | I prefer Warrior for single target mob ( or bosses) and Pally on multiple. A warrior simply cannot do the same when there's more than 2 mobs unCCd.
Try doing a Shattered Halls with a warrior and you'll understand what I mean. |
i agree, as a healer i prefer Pallies in 5 mans, its ez mode np, but in a raid i would rather have a Warrior hands down to tank, just b/c of the non existance of a mana pool>.>
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Rav
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Posted: 05/12/08 - 12:26 Post subject:
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| killsaw6 wrote: | | Rav wrote: | | It depends what it is that they're tanking. All round I'd say warrior tanks were best, but paladin tanks excell in a number of places, such as heroic Magister's Terrace, paladin tanks are the best choice here. |
Not really because tehre AOE tanks and will break CC which is a must for that instance |
Yeah, but obviously the pally tank will pull non-CCed mobs away from the CCed mobs.
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lambic
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Posted: 05/15/08 - 22:13 Post subject:
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honestly its kinda hard to choose between a warrior or a pally... you kinda need to know what they are tanking and then vote... i like a pally for the trash in hyjal cause i can throw dots on everything and not pull agro, but there are other places i would prefer the warrior tank because a pally can't hold the agro thats needed
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Ruzby
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Posted: 05/15/08 - 22:44 Post subject: pally v warrior tank
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IMO pallies make better off tanks, and warriors MT's. Running out of mana on a boss can cost your group the raid.
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deroth1234
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Posted: 05/15/08 - 22:56 Post subject:
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Prot pallies are best for trash generally, as they can generate a lot more aggro on multiple targets allowing for higher dps on trash mobs. Warriors have the highest single-target TPS, and probably mitigation as well, altho that depends on the fight, druids might be superior in certain situations.
Pallies are generally a safer bet for heroics, as tanking multiple mobs on a warrior requires more skill/experience.
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gatecrasher1
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Posted: 05/19/08 - 18:35 Post subject:
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warrior > paladin
If you want to be hybrid, roll a hybrid class.
If you want to be a true tank, be a warrior.
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MadHatterAK
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Posted: 05/20/08 - 14:26 Post subject:
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Completely agree here, Pallys can hold multiple mobs extremely easily making them ideal for a quick 5 man instance clears but I have seen them run out of mana during longer raid fights.
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Jazurite
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Posted: 05/21/08 - 00:48 Post subject:
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Warriors are better for raid settings against single hard hitting mobs or bosses, pallys rock aoe tanking pretty well.
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Chromie90
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Posted: 05/21/08 - 16:30 Post subject: Re: Tanks = Pally or Warrior?
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[quote="killsaw6"]Im a warrior tank and I have no problems with pally tanks but when i was lower lvl people said there are total junk for tanks. Do yall think its true or will Warriors continue to Raid before pallys?[/quote]
I leveled a prot pally to 64 and it was great, all the instances were AoE and I was always asking locks, mages, hunters and shit to come to the groups. I had decent gear so healing was never too hard ;-)
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seijinokuma
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Posted: 05/21/08 - 23:06 Post subject:
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Really depends on the situation. I like Pali tanks when there are a ton of mobs. Like Hero MT.
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sorajima
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Posted: 05/22/08 - 17:24 Post subject:
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paladin has very nice AOE tanking skills without breaking a sweat. a warrior on the other hand, need to be very busy clicking buttons when there are more than 2 things to tank.
the bad thing about paladin is once it runs out of mana = gg. no more agro.
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zdrok
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Posted: 05/22/08 - 21:03 Post subject:
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For most boss fights, a warrior is much better
but in kara, with a pally tank we dont need anyone to offtank allowing more room for dps (only problem is Nightbane cause of the fears)
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kystyra
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Posted: 05/22/08 - 23:00 Post subject:
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Warrior ofcorse . It's stronger and i like it 
Also voted for Rage Tank .
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Mookey
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Posted: 05/23/08 - 11:45 Post subject:
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i would say its situational, depends on mobs and composition of mobs.
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RNease
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Posted: 05/23/08 - 13:48 Post subject:
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This is a question that takes a lot of finesse to word, and to answer. So forgive me if I'm a little inarticulate.
Paladins are great tanks if you're low on CC or you'll be dealing with lots of enemies. Consecration and the amount of up-front threat paladins can generate are extremely useful for heroics all the way up to ZA. However, in 25-man content, they're better relegated to off-tanking and off-healing due to their versatility. The question isn't "Is a warrior or a paladin better?", it's "Is this the right situation for a warrior or a paladin?" For example, in the Morogrim Tidewalker encounter, it's almost universally necessary to have a paladin tank all the murloc adds-- in a pinch, Frost Novas can do the job if your DPS is up to the task of killing the adds quickly. On the other hand, warriors are fantastic single-target tanks, and they'll be your bread and butter for most 25-man raid bosses. Like paladins, they can be used for off-tanking one or two targets and off-DPS if the fight has the required amount of tanks already.
In any case, I'm a little perplexed to see that druids are left out of this little exercise-- they're very interesting as well. Going back to the Tidewalker example, a druid tank's really the best option due to their insane health, armor and dodge. Against Tidewalker's monstrous burst DPS, the second or two Tidewalker takes slamming down that 26k life may be the second the healers need to retarget and keep that tank alive. Another good example would be the Shaman add in the Fathom-Lord Karathress encounter.
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ffviii8
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Posted: 05/23/08 - 15:13 Post subject:
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Warrior.
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SpengLove
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Posted: 05/27/08 - 08:06 Post subject:
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I prefer having Paladins in heroics (5-mans) although I believe that Warriors are slighty superior when it comes to raid bosses. That doesn't mean that Paladins are bad though.
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al3x
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Posted: 05/27/08 - 17:46 Post subject:
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From lots of past experience, pallies are much better in aggro obtaining and keeping. The only issue is when their mana runs out, which usually doesn't happen that often, not even on boss fights. What pallies aren't good for is boss fights where bosses drain mana...Like the Archimonde fight, then pally tanks are pretty much useless.
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thomar
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Posted: 05/27/08 - 18:20 Post subject:
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warriors will never be replaced as the best single target tank. They have the most uh-oh buttons and the highest threat against a single target.
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FrostMage
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Posted: 05/27/08 - 20:38 Post subject:
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I think a good pally tank holds aggro better. But a warr tank is overall better because of survivability.
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Kev63
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Posted: 05/27/08 - 20:57 Post subject:
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Thread is fundamently flawed as it works out as Bear > rest
Lol. But yer, both have their strengths and weaknessnes like everytthing in the game but personally, id roll Pally.
Pally is the only class in game that can dps, tank and heal effectively with a respec. Only thing that comes close, but the druid balance tree needs work, and 5% crit JUST for party memebers and spells is kinda lame compared to a ret pallys judgements.
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Jester814
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Posted: 05/27/08 - 22:27 Post subject:
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Both are good for sure, and I have one of each in similar gear. The paladin is much easier to tank on but the warrior is a better overall tank IMO.
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tet05
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Posted: 05/27/08 - 22:58 Post subject:
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Pallies don't have the magic dmg mitigation a warrior can have in defensive stance (and talents for example improved Defensive Stance and so on). While pallies are awesome for trash tanking and some bosses, you need to remember that when the pally goes OOM its over for his threat generation. While they are limited by those two things, they still are great tanks.
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numb49
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Posted: 05/28/08 - 22:12 Post subject:
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Paly tanks are great for MH trash and for tanking illidan, they are slow at tps, if theres no allot of mobs hitting them but they still manage to do what they need to do in solo situatuions if the player is competent enough
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Enhio
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Posted: 05/29/08 - 13:34 Post subject: Re: Tanks = Pally or Warrior?
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| killsaw6 wrote: | | Im a warrior tank and I have no problems with pally tanks but when i was lower lvl people said there are total junk for tanks. Do yall think its true or will Warriors continue to Raid before pallys? |
there was a palli tank in MgT the other day, must say held aggro better than a warrior and dps'ed it down aswell 
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deckedgnome23
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Posted: 05/29/08 - 15:09 Post subject:
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paladins are great for 5 mans and anything with more than 3 mobs, also demon/undead bosses... but warriors are better 'maintanks' in my opinion
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frankenstein85
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Posted: 05/29/08 - 19:54 Post subject:
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I voted paladin tank because with a geared pally tank u don't really need to have any CC. Group setups will be a lot easier just find a healer and 3 dps and your good to go.
With warrior tanking, you would require decent CC for some instances.
Warrior can keep a high TPS on mobs than paly's i think.
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MarkedForSale
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Posted: 05/30/08 - 02:58 Post subject:
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Agreed with Warrior Hands down. Unless you want an AoE tank.. which is fun... but yea, the vast majority of situations, Warrior.
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Cakku
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Posted: 05/30/08 - 03:21 Post subject:
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Only thing pala tank lacks compared to warrior is sunder armor and shieldwall/last stand, in every other aspect like TPS, amount of hp and regular survival paladin wins hands down. That's why warriors will stay in the 25mans alongside palas/druids :/
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