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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 17:54    Post subject: T-Rex cloning on the way... Reply with quote

Yeah, I know, they need something besides old bones in order to clone one...right? Well....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=585&e=1&u=/nm/20050324/sc_nm/dinosaur_to_dc

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Scientists Find Soft Tissue in T-Rex Bone

2 hours, 38 minutes ago Science - Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A 70-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex fossil dug out of a hunk of sandstone has yielded soft tissue, including blood vessels and perhaps even whole cells, U.S. researchers reported on Thursday.

Paleontologists forced to break the creature's massive thighbone to get it on a helicopter found not a solid piece of fossilized bone, but instead something looking a bit less like a rock.

When they got it into a lab and chemically removed the hard minerals, they found what looked like blood vessels, bone cells and perhaps even blood cells.

"They are transparent, they are flexible," said Mary Higby Schweitzer of North Carolina State University and Montana State University, who conducted the study.

She said the vessels were flexible and in some cases their contents could be squeezed out.

"The microstructures that look like cells are preserved in every way," added Schweitzer, whose findings were published in the journal Science.

"Preservation of this extent, where you still have this flexibility and transparency, has never been seen in a dinosaur before." Feathers, hair and fossilized egg contents yes, but not truly soft tissue.

Studying the soft tissues may help answer many questions about dinosaurs. Were they cold-blooded like reptiles, warm-blooded like mammals, or somewhere in-between? How are they related to living animals?

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"If we can isolate certain proteins, then perhaps we can address the issue of the physiology of the dinosaur," Schweitzer said.

Of course, the big question is whether it will be possible to see dinosaur DNA. "We don't know yet. We are doing a lot in the lab now that looks promising," Schweitzer said.

To make sure she was seeing what she thought she was seeing, Schweitzer, a biologist by training, compared the Tyrannosaur samples with bone taken from a dead ostrich. She chose an ostrich because birds are thought to be the closest living relatives of dinosaurs and ostriches are big birds.

Both the dinosaur and ostrich blood vessels contained small, reddish brown dots that could be the nuclei of the endothelial cells that line blood vessels.

Taking the minerals out of both ostrich bone and the Tyrannosaur bone -- a simple experiment that can be duplicated by anyone using a chicken bone, for example, and vinegar -- yielded flexible fibers. Microscopic examination showed what look like bone cells called osteocytes in both.

The finding certainly shows fossilization does not proceed as science had assumed, Schweitzer said. Since the discovery, she has found similar samples of soft tissue in two other Tyrannosaur fossils and a hadrosaur.

The fossil was dug up out of Montana's Hell Creek Formation, a rich source of fossils.

Paleontologist Jack Horner said it was encased in 1,000 cubic yards of sandstone. "It's a fantastic specimen," he told the briefing.

"The specimen was very far away from road, (so) everything had to be done with a helicopter." The field team used standard procedure as they excavated the bones, wrapping them in plaster jackets before transporting them..

This particular dinosaur fossil was too big to lift and they reluctantly cracked a thighbone.

Usually paleontologists put preservatives on fossils right away, but Schweitzer has been trying to find soft tissue in dinosaur fossils, so this one was left alone.

Horner said he hoped museums around the world would start cracking open bones and looking for soft tissue in their fossils.

"Dinosaurs are relatively rare and we certainly think of Tyrannosaurus rex as being really rare -- although it really isn't -- so people tend not to want to cut holes into the bone or cut them in half," he said.

"But to study the cellular and molecular structures of these things you have to do that." The "good stuff," he said, is on the inside.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 17:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 18:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Wow.



exactly what i was thinking~
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 18:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, awesome! It was a t-rex too not some s****y dinosaur.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 18:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

merdocc wrote:
Haha, awesome! It was a t-rex too not some s****y dinosaur.



Yup. T-Rex's own.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 19:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd pay 22.95 to see dinosaurs in a habitat.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 19:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvermouse wrote:
I'd pay 22.95 to see dinosaurs in a habitat.


f**k that.

I want to hunt them.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 19:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Silvermouse wrote:
I'd pay 22.95 to see dinosaurs in a habitat.


f**k that.

I want to hunt them.



Thats what one of my friends mentioned...hahaha
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 19:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

wellspoken wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Silvermouse wrote:
I'd pay 22.95 to see dinosaurs in a habitat.


f**k that.

I want to hunt them.



Thats what one of my friends mentioned...hahaha



P.S. You are both crazy.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 19:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Silvermouse wrote:
I'd pay 22.95 to see dinosaurs in a habitat.


f**k that.

I want to hunt them.

Kbarr's face irl:
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 19:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Silvermouse wrote:
I'd pay 22.95 to see dinosaurs in a habitat.


f**k that.

I want to hunt them.


Oh, I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual on their end.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 21:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question is, do you want to hunt them without a handicap? Or do you want to just have the chance to shoot at a dinosaur that can't do anything about it?
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 21:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The question is, do you want to hunt them without a handicap? Or do you want to just have the chance to shoot at a dinosaur that can't do anything about it?



I don't see a human winning vs a T-Rex without a handicap. Unless he has a rocket launcher or something...
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 22:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rennol wrote:
The question is, do you want to hunt them without a handicap? Or do you want to just have the chance to shoot at a dinosaur that can't do anything about it?


Define handicap.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 22:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devook wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Silvermouse wrote:
I'd pay 22.95 to see dinosaurs in a habitat.


f**k that.

I want to hunt them.

Kbarr's face irl:



haha, that dude is hardcore.
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PostPosted: 03/24/05 - 22:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for it Kbarr!



/snickers
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 02:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking down a T rex would be hard. Their brains were super tiny, so you'd have to kill one by injuring vital organs, which wouldn't be a quick job, so it'd be real dangerous...or take the lower legs out with something real real big.

Come to think of it, a well hidden sniper with a 50 cal could easily
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 02:18    Post subject: Reply with quote




Here we come
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 07:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but in an open area...with no where to hide. I think trex would win even if you got afew shots off. You;d have to know exactly where to aim.
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 12:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

They dont see you if you dont move right? So just lay still and keep fireing and the thing wouldnt ever know.
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 12:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

New reality show: 10 athletic people with spears/loincloths versus one T-Rex on an uninhabited island. Hidden cameras placed near hunting grounds. Vital sign monitors on all the participants so you can see them running for their lives and eventually dying to dismemberment.

Oh, and it'll be hosted by Henry Rollins.
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 13:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

IceIsFun wrote:
New reality show: 10 athletic people with spears/loincloths versus one T-Rex on an uninhabited island. Hidden cameras placed near hunting grounds. Vital sign monitors on all the participants so you can see them running for their lives and eventually dying to dismemberment.

Oh, and it'll be hosted by Henry Rollins.


I hate TV... but I'd definately watch that shit!
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 13:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shotguns, up to 10 gauge vs a mature Trex. Sickos like Kbarr would want to hunt baby trexs that can barely walk.
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 13:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd rather see them clone some dinosaurs to fight, like c**k fighting but on a much larger scale.... now that would be high quality fun
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 14:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet a T-Rex tastes like Chicken.
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 14:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Rennol wrote:
The question is, do you want to hunt them without a handicap? Or do you want to just have the chance to shoot at a dinosaur that can't do anything about it?


Define handicap.


Look in the mirror, a picture is worth a thousand words.
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 15:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it p**s anyone else off when king kong beat the T-rex in his movie?

God I hate king kong...
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 16:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobonius wrote:
They dont see you if you dont move right? So just lay still and keep fireing and the thing wouldnt ever know.



Not everything works the same as in movies..
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PostPosted: 03/25/05 - 16:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tura wrote:
Yeah but in an open area...with no where to hide. I think trex would win even if you got afew shots off. You;d have to know exactly where to aim.



Keep in mind they have skin/hide that is probably 6-9 inches thick Smile
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They should breed it with iguanas and have lap T-Rexes.
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