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Occulis
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 Posted: 11/10/03 - 00:28 Post subject: Stupid shit from my personal life
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This is from the "should have gone into my journal but for some reason I stuffed it on realpoor instead" section.
My girlfriend has a 5 year-old son. Her ex husband is a psycho. I don't mean 'kinda wacky' or whatever. I mean 4 psychologists and many battered women agree: this piece of shit needs a lobotomy.
I've been around her enough to see she really busts her ass to do everything for her son. She's really good to him, in fact 1 of the better mothers I've met.
Anyway - ex husb. is an abusive piece of shit and about 12 weeks ago somehow gained partial custody of the boy. So a couple months go by and the boy reports that his dad is, uh... well the boy says the dad is doing shit that involves the boys penis, other adults, and physical torture.
Guess what! He just filed for full custody (attempting to take hers away in the process). He is trying to show her to be an unfit mother.
He doesn't want to take care of the boy. When they were married, he never changed the boys diapers. Never fed him. Never bought him clothes, wiped his butt, never did anything. He doesn't want custody because he wants the boy, he wants it because he wants to take her son away from her.
His own mother testified against him in court. He used to beat the shit out of his first wife, until she fled to Canada. He used to beat the shit out of his own mom, too.
So!
What would you do?
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Sabathius
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 00:34 Post subject:
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1. Take the boy to a child psych and have her testify about what he says about his "father."
2. Send his ass to prison.
3. Let Big N!gger Bubba and Nazi Nick f**k him in the ass and teach him not to abuse helpless little boys.
4. Live happily ever after knowing boy is safe at home with loving mother.
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Occulis
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 00:39 Post subject:
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| Sabathius wrote: | 1. Take the boy to a child psych and have her testify about what he says about his "father."
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The court has on video tape the boys interviews. These are worthless and ignored by all lawmakers since the boy has no rights. He's 5, so that means he is lying (in their eyes).
I hope steps 2-4 of your idea come to fruition
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Paden
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 00:52 Post subject:
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i know a guy that will kill him for a 12 pack of bud light 
Nah man the court will "should" do what is right.
Mothers always win!
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Akronn
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 00:57 Post subject:
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I too find it unlikely the court will side with his father, unless the mother really isn't close to making ends meet. (is she???)
However, with either scenario you're still gonna be stuck with psycho in your life. Unfortunately, he's a permanent appendage to his child's mother.
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Janoth
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 01:06 Post subject:
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You're going to need Chloroform, a large freezer, and a woodchipper. OR Chloroform, an extremly acidic substance, and a nearby federally protected wildlife park.
Stalk him for about 2 weeks. Observe his movements. Find consistancies in where he goes. For instance if he goes to a bar consistantly..... Catch him in the parking lot. You'll have to sneak up behind him quietly and apply the chloroform quickly. If you catch him by surprise you should be able to accomplish this. 10 seconds should be enough to knock him out. Make sure no one sees you. it is essential you do this at night.
Now, put rubber gloves on his hands and a surgical hat(whatever theyre called) on his head. Make sure the rest of his body is covered for the most part. Toss him in your car. Go to a quiet and safe place, and strangle him to death. Make sure you do not draw any blood whatsoever. Cut off the oxygen to his brain. Thats it.
Now you have two options. If there is any federally protected land(Like a national park) near where you are at... Go 10 miles or more into it. Dig a deep ass hole. Toss him in with a shitload of the above mentioned acidic substance. Make sure whatever you use will speed up decomposition... And leave nothing. The cops can't go onto the federally protected land and dig even if they figure out where it's at without doing a bunch of b******t. By then the body should be completly gone.
Choice #2. Toss him in the freezer, wait till he's completly frozen. Toss the body into a wood chipper so his remains fly into a river or ocean. (If ocean make sure to do it during high tide.) This is more risky because the wood chipper will have traces of DNA on it. You would have to dispose of it very carefully.
When/If you are called for questioning. Deny everything. It doesn't even matter if you are convincing. Never admit to shit. You weren't there, you didn't do it. Without a confession they can't make a conviction without the body.... And the body is gone. =)
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Krumble
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 01:06 Post subject:
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| Paden wrote: | | i know a guy that will kill him for a 12 pack of bud light |
Sure fire way to land your ass in prison quicker than.. well, really quick.
Paden is on the right track though. Kill him, just be a little more careful about it than letting jim-bob do it for a 12 pack.
Also, don't post about it on the internet.
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Paden
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 01:12 Post subject:
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Its easy to kill someone. Just don't leave physical evidence. Thats why my mothers killer is still free.
Don't matter if someone see's you really. If you leave nothing that will trace to you. They can't do shit.
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Kaladam
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 01:23 Post subject:
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| Dunn wrote: | | Sabathius wrote: | 1. Take the boy to a child psych and have her testify about what he says about his "father."
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The court has on video tape the boys interviews. These are worthless and ignored by all lawmakers since the boy has no rights. He's 5, so that means he is lying (in their eyes).
I hope steps 2-4 of your idea come to fruition |
With any lawyer worth two s***s, his ass would be in jail by now. Talk to a different lawyer. Yours sucks. Make sure the lawyer is jewish.
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Celestra
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 04:39 Post subject:
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Yeah, what Kaladam said. Get a really good lawyer.
I can't see a reason why they would take the boy away from mother even if the dad wasn't a child f****r and wifebeater.
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khrath
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 04:58 Post subject:
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Maybe because he isn't one celestra.
In america we have this thing called innocent until proven guilty.
Has the guy ever been convicted? odds are he hasn't.
Elavis, in all honesty....I just went through trying to pin every little thing on my wife i could find so I could get my son, and my lawyer basically told me I couldn't use any of it at all, because nothing, and I mean nothing will be taken into considderation without a conviction, or some solid proof.
As far as the beatings etc goes.....there's also a legal term called consent. You let someone keep dong something for so long, and you are in essence consenting to them doing action.
All you can hope for is to get some solid evidence....record phone calls, maybe he'll lose it one night. Hell, you could even take one for the team....if the dude's really that psycho, go out front to meet him some time, and tell him how you think it's best for his son not to live with him, because he isn't a good enough father, and you think you'd make a better male rolemodel for the boy, while you have a small video cam set up on a window recording it all.
yah you'll take an ass beating like never before, but you'll also have criminal charges against him, solid proof so there's no way he's ducking the charges, and some real nice leverage in the custody fight.
Cause seriously, I dont know a guy in the world who wouldn't want to beat someones ass over saying that about their son, and if he's psycho like you say, nothing in the world will stop him from beatin you into a little pile of elavis goo.
take 1 for the team man!
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Zwadrich
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 05:08 Post subject: Re: Stupid shit from my personal life
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| Dunn wrote: | | What would you do? |
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Celestra
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 05:10 Post subject:
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| Khrath wrote: | Maybe because he isn't one celestra.
In america we have this thing called innocent until proven guilty.
Has the guy ever been convicted? odds are he hasn't.
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Did you read his post?
He said the guys own mother testified to it in court. The kid says on videotape the guy molested him. I understand innocent till proven guilty. But that also doesn't mean just because he wasn't convicted that he isn't guilty, you just can't put the guy in jail for it (yet).
Maybe that's not "proof" in court but to me it sounds like it is more than likely that the guy is a piece of shit.
Maybe I'm wrong believing it, I don't know the guy or the situation, either way: getting a good lawyer is still good advice.
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Janoth
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 05:14 Post subject:
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If the kids claiming his dad is molesting him then I would say give him to his mom =P
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khrath
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 06:20 Post subject:
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well thankfully the courts dont think like you two, cause it wouldnt take shit to convince a 5 year old to tell stories that someone mollested him.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 06:34 Post subject:
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No Khrath but if a 5 years old can claim this I think its worth to have him talk with a psycologist. Before giving the dad any part of the custody. But then again many women would actually do anything they can just to be able to leave their ex husb with their kids and let the poor guy everything.
Lucky things are changing now. Cause last I checked it takes people to make a child so why should the guy always pay everything while the woman leave with another guy and such? Even more today when often both parents work. Im tired to hear shit like women wear the kid during the 9 months etc...so they should always get the custody after...thats crap if you don't want the man to have a part of the custody after if you split up then just dont make any kids.
I agree many women are abused and in a bad situation but also often lots of guys are in a very bad situation bacause of some women too.
So my point of view..if a woman can leave a guy when she want along with the children without any right for the man..then hell the guy shouldn't pay any penny. When you are to the point that you only have the right to pay the bills and not pass some quality times with your children and see them get older..its time for you to just change your life.
But then again every case is diff.
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khrath
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 06:43 Post subject:
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every case is different and has to be judged under the same law.
That law has to be the lesser of all the evils to avoid as much problems as possible.
Thats what we got
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Celestra
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 06:52 Post subject:
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I'm just judging the story with the facts given to me by Dunn, and the way he views the situation. Sounds to me like Dunns friend just wants to protect her kid.
I think dads should have equal rights to their kids in general, not if theyre wifebeaters and pedophiles tho. Whether that is true remains to be seen. Again: get a good lawyer!
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Paco
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 07:51 Post subject:
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Dunn, it sounds like Khrath wants his boy back. Better get Kbarr to take care of him for you sir.
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Celestra
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 07:57 Post subject:
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haha
how mean ;p
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Paco
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 07:59 Post subject:
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heheh, i know, couldn't help myself
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khrath
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 08:00 Post subject:
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check out my sig it owns
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Paco
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 08:01 Post subject:
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but that's not my IP 
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Sabathius
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 08:22 Post subject:
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Oh for f***s sake Celestra STOP DEFENDING EVERY g*****n PERSON.
I take Dunn's word as truth, in this matter at least. He says the guys a child molestor and all around a*****e? I tend to believe him, I don't go around with my shield of words and hope trying to defend some a*****e who would probably do the same f*****g thing to my kids if the situation were different.
There ARE bad people in this world, believe it or not.
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Celestra
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 08:28 Post subject:
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Huh who am I defending?
| Quote: | | I take Dunn's word as truth, in this matter at least. He says the guys a child molestor and all around a*****e? I tend to believe him, I don't go around with my shield of words and hope trying to defend some a*****e who would probably do the same f*****g thing to my kids if the situation were different. |
That's exactly what I did.
Read post then comment k?
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Nahualli
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 08:30 Post subject: Re: Stupid shit from my personal life
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| Dunn wrote: | My girlfriend has a 5 year-old son. Her ex husband is a psycho. I don't mean 'kinda wacky' or whatever. I mean 4 psychologists and many battered women agree: this piece of shit needs a lobotomy.
I've been around her enough to see she really busts her ass to do everything for her son. She's really good to him, in fact 1 of the better mothers I've met.
Anyway - ex husb. is an abusive piece of shit and about 12 weeks ago somehow gained partial custody of the boy. So a couple months go by and the boy reports that his dad is, uh... well the boy says the dad is doing shit that involves the boys penis, other adults, and physical torture.
He doesn't want to take care of the boy. When they were married, he never changed the boys diapers. Never fed him. Never bought him clothes, wiped his butt, never did anything. He doesn't want custody because he wants the boy, he wants it because he wants to take her son away from her.
His own mother testified against him in court. He used to beat the shit out of his first wife, until she fled to Canada. He used to beat the shit out of his own mom, too.
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I'm just curious how much of this do you know for yourself and how much of it did your girl tell you is true? You've been around her long enough to see she takes care of her boy, have you talked to all the ex-wives and all the shrinks that have dealt with the case also?
How much of this do you know is fact, I guess I'm asking. There's no way this could be part of an axe to grind your woman has with her ex, is there?
-Nah-
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Ghaol
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 09:29 Post subject:
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Is the mother completely unfit? ie Keeps going homeless, drops kid off at someones house for days at a time with no calls etc? Kid in preschool or kindergarten? is she a drug user?
If shes not there is no chance the father would get full custody, unless she was trying to move out of state or something.
Does she have a lawyer? if not get her one because im betting he has one.
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Bricktop!
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 09:47 Post subject:
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I thinking finding a new girlfriend would be my first thing I did. This isn't safe for you either. Not your drama, don't deal with it. Other then that i wish her luck and hope the b*****d burns .
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Paco
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 09:59 Post subject:
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| Ghaol wrote: | Is the mother completely unfit? ie Keeps going homeless, drops kid off at someones house for days at a time with no calls etc? Kid in preschool or kindergarten? is she a drug user?
If shes not there is no chance the father would get full custody, unless she was trying to move out of state or something.
Does she have a lawyer? if not get her one because im betting he has one. |
are you even paying f*****g attention to the posts?
I mean, really, Gayol, come on.
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Aviger
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Posted: 11/10/03 - 10:20 Post subject:
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If what you say about this guy is true, and theres a snowballs chance in hell he could get custody of that kid i'd suggest having someone beat his ass so hard he cant walk for a few years.
Dont cost much, and if you get ther ight peopel to do it no way to trace it back to you.
Works like a charm 
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