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Luke Warm

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 195
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Posted: 10/30/04 - 00:08 Post subject: Stress Test Client
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Downloading the Stress Test Client - Indoflaven on 10/29/04
The client download will now be available to closed beta testers when we announce further details regarding the upcoming stress test here on WorldofWarcraft.com. It will not be available early as we originally indicated in the email we sent yesterday. While our initial plan was to offer the stress test client for download to closed beta testers ahead of time, this is no longer possible due to the extensive maintenance being performed on our servers. We apologize for any confusion this has caused. Please enjoy your weekend!
HAVE A NICE WEEKEND!!
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Cellen
Luke Warm

Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 234
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Posted: 10/30/04 - 00:22 Post subject:
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Sounds Fine.
Choo Choo! Chug chug chug chug Choo Chooo!
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Potsnu
Luke Warm

Joined: 01 Nov 2002 Posts: 202
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Posted: 10/30/04 - 12:12 Post subject:
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still haven't got an email, you guys?
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ashwynd
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Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1686
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Posted: 10/30/04 - 13:12 Post subject:
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no email. I'm gonna have someone send me theirs, but since the client will be DL'd through their main site like a patch I guess it doesn't matter much.
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GruntingCod
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 6399
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 00:33 Post subject:
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I don't understand why closed beta testers get first dibs on the f*****g client download.
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kireol
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Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 00:38 Post subject:
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cuz of their hard work
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kireol
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Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
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GruntingCod
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 6399
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 02:48 Post subject:
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| kireol wrote: | | cuz of their hard work |
The majority of the players complain becasue things that should be nerfed get nerfed, I.E. They don't help the community nor the game at all.
And I have already preordered the special edition with the special goodies. And I don't need a time card, unless they are special in some way or another.
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ashwynd
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 04:26 Post subject:
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most of the shit nerfed (gear and druids for a few examples) in no way, shape, or form needed a nerf. When I lost 1000 HP and 800 mana in one patch from constantly raiding and acquiring items, there was no reason that needed to happen. Indoor travel form being f****d over was not needed, druid talents getting moved around to f**k my talent spec was not needed. Warrior and rogue nerfs were and ARE needed as well as priest and shaman nerfs.
The reason the game has come this far honestly (without sounding too egotistical) is due to people like us doings /bug reports and /suggests and posting on the forums when problems arise. Gimme the client early, k? thx, bye!
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Ashenor
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 04:45 Post subject:
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Sorry we should get first dibs for 6 months plus of testing, not to sound like a d**k but f**k the open beta people they can get in when they get in =).
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Frax
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 8489
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 08:49 Post subject:
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| GruntingCod wrote: | | I don't understand why closed beta testers get first dibs on the f*****g client download. |
Is that a tear i see?
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Ashenor
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 10:31 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | GruntingCod wrote: | | I don't understand why closed beta testers get first dibs on the f*****g client download. |
Is that a tear i see? |
From here it looked more like a sniffle.
=)
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Frehya
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 11:43 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | GruntingCod wrote: | | I don't understand why closed beta testers get first dibs on the f*****g client download. |
Is that a tear i see? |
tee hee
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GruntingCod
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 15:40 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | | he reason the game has come this far honestly (without sounding too egotistical) is due to people like us doings /bug reports and /suggests and posting on the forums when problems arise. Gimme the client early, k? thx, bye! |
I'm sorry if you claim you know what was going on on the forums. If you actually read them, 50-70% of the forums were pointless spam / nonsense. If you continue to claim that every one, or even the majority of the closed beta testers were helpful, I will continue to disagree.
| Ashenor wrote: | | Sorry we should get first dibs for 6 months plus of testing, not to sound like a d**k but f**k the open beta people they can get in when they get in =). |
You do not sound like a d**k in any way, although I still do not agree with their decision to allow closed beta testers to download it early, even though it's not that big of a deal.
| Ashenor wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | GruntingCod wrote: | | I don't understand why closed beta testers get first dibs on the f*****g client download. |
Is that a tear i see? |
From here it looked more like a sniffle.
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Hahah, sadly enough, you're correct Ash.
This arguement is extremly pointless... I belive it is just me and my withdrawls from the stress test.
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Ashenor
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 16:42 Post subject:
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Not that it really matters i think we will all be downloading it at the same time now, lets hope they have more BT seeds or something better or it will be a cluster f**k =).
Whatcha gonna play GC? If the servers stay the same come play one Alliance PvP with some of us if you want.
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Tolanin
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 3551
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 17:19 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | most of the shit nerfed (gear and druids for a few examples) in no way, shape, or form needed a nerf. When I lost 1000 HP and 800 mana in one patch from constantly raiding and acquiring items, there was no reason that needed to happen. Indoor travel form being f****d over was not needed, druid talents getting moved around to f**k my talent spec was not needed. Warrior and rogue nerfs were and ARE needed as well as priest and shaman nerfs.
The reason the game has come this far honestly (without sounding too egotistical) is due to people like us doings /bug reports and /suggests and posting on the forums when problems arise. Gimme the client early, k? thx, bye! |
meh cat form run speed increase was good enough as it was... being hte fastest moving stealth capable class over rogues you shouldnt complain.
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ashwynd
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 18:30 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | ashwynd wrote: | most of the shit nerfed (gear and druids for a few examples) in no way, shape, or form needed a nerf. When I lost 1000 HP and 800 mana in one patch from constantly raiding and acquiring items, there was no reason that needed to happen. Indoor travel form being f****d over was not needed, druid talents getting moved around to f**k my talent spec was not needed. Warrior and rogue nerfs were and ARE needed as well as priest and shaman nerfs.
The reason the game has come this far honestly (without sounding too egotistical) is due to people like us doings /bug reports and /suggests and posting on the forums when problems arise. Gimme the client early, k? thx, bye! |
meh cat form run speed increase was good enough as it was... being hte fastest moving stealth capable class over rogues you shouldnt complain. |
If you chose feral cat speed upgrade talents as a druid all I can do is feel sorry for you I haven't played a rogue, but their sprint seems to last a bit longer than cat dash and they can sprint while vanished as far as I know. Druids cannot dash while stealthed. Now, cat form was even nerfed so you don't get the speed bonus indoors from talents.
As for 75% of the forums being useless dribble from 12 year olds with too much time on their hands, I would say it was about 90% b******t from illiterate dumbshits who didn't know squat about the game. Too many posts were asskissing blizzard in hopes of some type of benefits other than a pat on the back for brown nosing. A lot of the posts were stupid reposts too from people who are too lazy to read other posts or check topics people made. The other 10% was actually worthwhile to read and hopefully will benefit each and every class before retail.
Druids need something short of a gift from god to become a decent class in retail for groups though. The only reason I got groups is because people know that I know my class and its weakness and strengths and used them to the best of my ability. I saw tons of others druids who couldn't get a group for shit because they were feral specced and what not.
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Kindom
Luke Warm

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Posted: 10/31/04 - 20:09 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: |
If you chose feral cat speed upgrade talents as a druid all I can do is feel sorry for you I haven't played a rogue, but their sprint seems to last a bit longer than cat dash and they can sprint while vanished as far as I know. Druids cannot dash while stealthed. Now, cat form was even nerfed so you don't get the speed bonus indoors from talents.
As for 75% of the forums being useless dribble from 12 year olds with too much time on their hands, I would say it was about 90% b******t from illiterate dumbshits who didn't know squat about the game. Too many posts were asskissing blizzard in hopes of some type of benefits other than a pat on the back for brown nosing. A lot of the posts were stupid reposts too from people who are too lazy to read other posts or check topics people made. The other 10% was actually worthwhile to read and hopefully will benefit each and every class before retail.
Druids need something short of a gift from god to become a decent class in retail for groups though. The only reason I got groups is because people know that I know my class and its weakness and strengths and used them to the best of my ability. I saw tons of others druids who couldn't get a group for shit because they were feral specced and what not. |
mages got nerfed WAY more =/..
why do we need a seperate client anyway..... no game in beta has changed clients for a stress test / during beta b4
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Timarak
Luke Warm

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Posted: 10/31/04 - 20:50 Post subject:
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I imagine new client needed because of the new improvements to the graphics. Pixel shading etc. Just a guess~
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Tolanin
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 20:57 Post subject:
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| Kindom wrote: | | ashwynd wrote: |
If you chose feral cat speed upgrade talents as a druid all I can do is feel sorry for you I haven't played a rogue, but their sprint seems to last a bit longer than cat dash and they can sprint while vanished as far as I know. Druids cannot dash while stealthed. Now, cat form was even nerfed so you don't get the speed bonus indoors from talents.
As for 75% of the forums being useless dribble from 12 year olds with too much time on their hands, I would say it was about 90% b******t from illiterate dumbshits who didn't know squat about the game. Too many posts were asskissing blizzard in hopes of some type of benefits other than a pat on the back for brown nosing. A lot of the posts were stupid reposts too from people who are too lazy to read other posts or check topics people made. The other 10% was actually worthwhile to read and hopefully will benefit each and every class before retail.
Druids need something short of a gift from god to become a decent class in retail for groups though. The only reason I got groups is because people know that I know my class and its weakness and strengths and used them to the best of my ability. I saw tons of others druids who couldn't get a group for shit because they were feral specced and what not. |
mages got nerfed WAY more =/..
why do we need a seperate client anyway..... no game in beta has changed clients for a stress test / during beta b4 |
imo druids are fine atm, cat form needs a bit of tweaking to make it better but it doesnt need more run speed... druids already run fastest... rogue sprint lasts all of 15 seconds so thats not nearly the same... 130% run speed outside with cat is very useful already... it didnt need to work indoors too.. mounts dont why should cat form?.. druids fill a niche.. what do you expect when you play the class that can be a tank, rogue, mage, or cleric all in one, that whatever route you pick you will be comparable to the main classes? Druids are far more useful in pvp than pve. The entire problem with people who play druids is that they are always ready to complain they suck because for some reason they expect to be a replacement for their parent classes... in EQ maybe that was possibly a reasonable arguement.. but not in WoW. Admitedly they will prolly have issues with dmg scales like the other casters.. but thats an overall design flaw in the game rather than a problem with druids in particular... i could also maybe see making improved prowl increase speed 30 percent instead of 15.. but then nerf feline swiftness to only give half its speed while prowling.
As to mage, hopefully they buff up the frost/fire talent lines a bit so that arcane isnt the only intelligent choice.. other than that i hope to see undead lose immune to poly and maybe a dps tweak in pve... rogues just out dmgs mages in a sick way in pve atm from what i see even sin build rogues.
As to the seperate client.. maybe they want to stagger logins or something.. thats the only thing i can think of.. considering how many people have the wow client right now staggering logins prolly seems like the easiest way for them to not crash servers.. so they make everyone DL the client again...
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GruntingCod
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 22:20 Post subject:
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| Ashenor wrote: | Not that it really matters i think we will all be downloading it at the same time now, lets hope they have more BT seeds or something better or it will be a cluster f**k =).
Whatcha gonna play GC? If the servers stay the same come play one Alliance PvP with some of us if you want. |
Well in stress test I loved the Druids, although I played him to 24, so I am sort of burnt out on the class. I played a rogue to like 11-12 and I f*****g loved it, so I belive I will be playing a rogue.
I already got a thing together with a bunch of my friends to run a RP guild on the offical/unoffical RP server for PvE, and a RP guild (or not, not sure yet) on PvP. So for sure I will find out what server you guys are playing on and make my PvP guys on it, since I love PvP.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 10/31/04 - 22:28 Post subject:
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play central pvp in final... it will be the best!.. if they name servers like that anyway and i have serious doubts =/
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ashwynd
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 05:42 Post subject:
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You sound like you played a feral specced druid, Tolanin, and not to 50+, maybe I'm wrong.
If you're in groups, bear form is useless once you get to 60 (I'll shift into it to gain rage and AE taunt to take some hits off the healers if the tank dies while he's being rezzed, but I'll last a few seconds with that dps output on me).
Cat form is barely useful with the insane AC on high level mobs in instances and high AC on non casters (it's good vs. priests, but if you don't have the talents for it, the priest will most likely hand you your ass on a silver platter).
Seal form is basically a "f**k you" to the druid class. It needs some underwater abilities for fighting to make it a decent skill or to not shift out of form if part of your body is still underwater (it's a f*****g seal, seals are not in the water 100% of the time). The graphics on feral forms are HIDEOUS (not in a good way). Alliance cat form is the only decent thing I've seen thus far.
You keep talking about cat speed outdoors, newsflash, not every druid (in fact most druids) are not feral specced in talents. If rogues can sprint indoors (which they can while INVISIBLE), it's a complete double standard to take away our indoor travel form.
Lastly, where the f**k is the level 60 tauren mount or 1000 gold plainsrunning ability? It wasn't even mentioned that they were introducing it sometime soon and retail is right around the corner. It gives people a HUGE advantage over horde druids in PvP at level 60.
P.S. Add more beasts/dragonkin in mid level instances, k? Thx!
P.P.S. They STILL need to address some druids carrying around 2 bags of gear for shifting and for caster form and decrease the mana cost of regrowth and the agro received from casting it.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 11:13 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | You sound like you played a feral specced druid, Tolanin, and not to 50+, maybe I'm wrong.
If you're in groups, bear form is useless once you get to 60 (I'll shift into it to gain rage and AE taunt to take some hits off the healers if the tank dies while he's being rezzed, but I'll last a few seconds with that dps output on me).
Cat form is barely useful with the insane AC on high level mobs in instances and high AC on non casters (it's good vs. priests, but if you don't have the talents for it, the priest will most likely hand you your ass on a silver platter).
Seal form is basically a "f**k you" to the druid class. It needs some underwater abilities for fighting to make it a decent skill or to not shift out of form if part of your body is still underwater (it's a f*****g seal, seals are not in the water 100% of the time). The graphics on feral forms are HIDEOUS (not in a good way). Alliance cat form is the only decent thing I've seen thus far.
You keep talking about cat speed outdoors, newsflash, not every druid (in fact most druids) are not feral specced in talents. If rogues can sprint indoors (which they can while INVISIBLE), it's a complete double standard to take away our indoor travel form.
Lastly, where the f**k is the level 60 tauren mount or 1000 gold plainsrunning ability? It wasn't even mentioned that they were introducing it sometime soon and retail is right around the corner. It gives people a HUGE advantage over horde druids in PvP at level 60.
P.S. Add more beasts/dragonkin in mid level instances, k? Thx!
P.P.S. They STILL need to address some druids carrying around 2 bags of gear for shifting and for caster form and decrease the mana cost of regrowth and the agro received from casting it. |
i suspect plainsrunning is gonna be a racial trait.. atleast i hope that ends up being the case... i dont disagree that we need some help at 60 with dmg n such in pve but thats an across the board caster thing imo, they just didnt plan well for high end gear.. high end gear is almost just a f**k you to any of the caster classes, who the f**k needs +7 dmg nuke mods on spells doing 500+ dmg, thats less than a 1 percent mod in alot of cases.. even with like 6 of um its still s****y compared to the new weapons melees get.
I dont think sprint is even comparable to the cat run buff.. spring lasts f*****g 15 seconds every 5 minutes.. its useful if your in trouble.. nothing else... blizz imo was just stupid to give hard line increases on gear/forms for everyone, that stuff should be percent based so it keeps up with melees.
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Luke Warm

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Posted: 11/01/04 - 14:00 Post subject:
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Still no e-mail and now the main site is down )=
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