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 Posted: 04/11/04 - 20:49 Post subject: Sopranos THEN Deadwood!
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12 mins and counting.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 04/11/04 - 20:58 Post subject:
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3 hours from now
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sinrakin
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Posted: 04/11/04 - 22:04 Post subject:
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Heh, I'm disappointed; I expected Tony to cut that guy's balls off, like in the story he was reading.
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hitachi
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Posted: 04/11/04 - 22:06 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Heh, I'm disappointed; I expected Tony to cut that guy's balls off, like in the story he was reading. |
wtf it just happened, give it atleast another episode. did you watch the previews for next week? thats gotta be the car he was running off the road.
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 04/11/04 - 22:06 Post subject:
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The season isn't over yet...
And yeah, this ep was fairly slow. actually... very slow.
I was expecting AJ to get his ass beat, and the teacher to... well, die.
Also the chinese guy to go jujitsu on the other guy's ass.
At least on the up side, next week looks good...
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Zoll
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Posted: 04/11/04 - 22:08 Post subject:
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Yeah, would have been much better to have them get caught together than for him to just dump her. I thought Kim was going to kick Tony's ass, he atleast put up a fight better than most.
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Yabden
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Posted: 04/11/04 - 23:41 Post subject:
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how about Wild Bill getting killed on Deadwood, of course it was going to happen but 4 episodes in? Is this a one season thing or what?
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Posted: 04/11/04 - 23:42 Post subject:
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I think the teacher is walking dead.
And I can't BELIEVE they killed off Wild Bill Hickok so soon in the series. I posted the dead mans hand, right on time it seems. That f*****g blows.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 02:08 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | I think the teacher is walking dead.
And I can't BELIEVE they killed off Wild Bill Hickok so soon in the series. I posted the dead mans hand, right on time it seems. That f*****g blows.
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I agree, that was lame. There's only two really cool characters on that show, the other being Al, and now one of them is dead. I really don't want to watch a whole series based on goodie-goodie Montana. I like my heroes to have two sides to them, like Bill.
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 03:53 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: |
I agree, that was lame. There's only two really cool characters on that show, the other being Al, and now one of them is dead. I really don't want to watch a whole series based on goodie-goodie Montana. I like my heroes to have two sides to them, like Bill. |
This is the RL "Montana" Seth Bollock
Pretty interesting stuff. I wonder who will play Wyatt Earp, you know he will be a part of the show. But, I'm still gonna miss Keith Carradine as WBH.
| Quote: | Deadwood was established in 1876 during the Black Hills gold rush. In 1875, a miner named John B. Pearson found gold in a narrow canyon in the Northern Black Hills. This canyon became known as "Deadwood Gulch," because of the many dead trees that lined the canyon walls at the time. The name stuck, and, over 125 years later, the U.S. 2000 Census cites Deadwood's population as 1,380; and the town sits some 4,533 feet above sea level. Given its colorful, violent, and lawless beginnings, few could have imagined that Deadwood would someday serve as the county seat for Lawrence County, as it does today.
In 1874, under the command of General George A. Custer, a government- sponsored expedition confirmed the presence of gold in the Black Hills. The U.S. government tried to conceal the discovery from the general public in order to honor the 1868 Treaty of Fort Laramie, which forever ceded the Black Hills to the Lakota-Sioux. The government also dispatched several military units to forts in the surrounding area to keep people from entering the Hills. However, people illegally entered the area anyway, searching for gold or adventure. Despite the efforts of the military and federal government, the American populace learned about the discovery of gold in the Black Hills. Influenced by dreams and greed, the 1876 gold rush was on in the Black Hills. Once Deadwood was established, the mining camp was soon swarming with thousands of prospectors searching for an easy way to get rich. Such luck happened to fall upon Fred and Moses Manuel, who claimed the Homestake Mine, which proved to be the most profitable in the area. Although the Manuels had been lucky, others were not so fortunate. Most of the early population was in Deadwood to mine for gold, but the lawless region naturally attracted a crowd of rough and shady characters. These particular individuals made the early days of Deadwood rough and wild. A mostly male population eagerly patronized the many saloons, gambling establishments, dance halls, and brothels. These establishments were considered legitimate businesses and were well known throughout the area.
By 1877, Deadwood was evolving from a primitive mining camp to a community with a sense of order. The crude tents and shanties that had housed the early miners quickly gave way to wood and brick buildings. The community organized a town government that relied on Sheriff Seth Bullock to keep law and order. The gradual transition of Deadwood from a mining camp to a civilized community nearly came to an abrupt end. On Sept. 29, 1879, a fire started at a bakery on Sherman Street and rapidly spread to the business district of Deadwood. The fire damaged the business district of the town, but rather than give up, the community rebuilt itself. The fire made clear the need for regulations preventing another fire. The local government enacted laws that would permit only certain building materials for building construction. After the fire, Deadwood rebuilt itself in brick and stone rather than in lumber.
In 1891, the railroad connected the town to the outside world. The Fremont, Elkhorn, and Missouri Valley Railroad helped bring the community together as a civic entity. The railroad also brought people to the area from various ethnic groups. Chinese immigrants were among those building the railroad. Hundreds of Chinese came to the Black Hills looking for work in mines or commerce. Many settled in Deadwood, where they sought work in restaurants, laundries and stores. By the end of the 1880s, Deadwood had a Chinatown, which was at the northern end of present-day Main Street. The Chinese managed to establish a district and a fire department for themselves, but struggled in nearly every part of society. Often denied equality in a dominantly Caucasian community, the members of Chinatown strived for recognition as citizens of Deadwood. All too often they were subjected to the suspicion and hostility of whites.
Deadwood gradually evolved from a wild frontier town to a prosperous commercial center, due, in part, to the construction of the railroad. Although the community primarily focused on its gold mining industry, Deadwood became the place where people traveled in the Black Hills to conduct their business. Despite an 1883 flood, and another fire in 1894, Deadwood prevailed through many hardships. In March 1878, Paul Rewman established Western South Dakota's first telephone exchange in Deadwood. Dakota Territory became the states of North and South Dakota on November 2, 1889 (Dakota Territory also included areas that encompassed present day Montana and most of Wyoming). Deadwood moved forward into the twentieth century, but the image of the wild West town has lingered, due to past events and the individuals responsible for making the town into a legend. Figures like Wild Bill Hickok and Calamity Jane each left their mark. Hickok, a legendary figure even in his own lifetime, was shot in the back of the head by Jack McCall, while playing poker at the No. 10 Saloon on August 2, 1876. Calamity Jane was renowned for her excellent marksmanship, preference for men's clothing, and bawdy behavior. Although Deadwood had its tough individuals, others were gentler in nature, such as Rev. Henry W. Smith. Preacher Smith was the first Methodist minister to come to the Black Hills. Smith was mysteriously murdered on Sunday, August 20, 1876, while walking to Crook City to deliver a sermon. These individuals are just a few of the many notables buried in Mt. Moriah Cemetery, which was established in 1877 or 1878. |
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 06:58 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | I think the teacher is walking dead. |
I'm betting next episode is it for that lil book worm >_<
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Cryz
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 06:59 Post subject:
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yea deadwood is tight as f**k... i like the dialogue in the show... its so much different than other shows... its almost like everyone is a poet =P its tight... mixed with the constant c**k suckers and f*****g f*****s....
"you see im the simple type c**k sucker that when i see lightning i ready for thunder, and i take that thunder as if it comes from the same f*****g storm"
sucks they whacked WB so quickly though... i gotta see the episode again though cause we had some drunk chicks over and they were being rowdy so i wasent really paying attention the whole time... but at the end im watching.. and boom wild bill gets his f*****g head blown in... im like holy f*****g shit did that just happen!?
i only started watching the sopranos this season because of deadwood... its pretty tight.. i like the intro song ^_^ and steve buscemi is in it ! thats f****n tight!... although i didnt full understand why he went apeshit on that asian dude =\
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 08:25 Post subject:
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Who's head was that guy swinging around at the end of Deadwood? Some random woman's?
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 08:30 Post subject:
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As a watcher of The Sopranos, it is my opinion all of us faithful watchers should petition for an episode where every cast member beats the livin hell outta AJ for an episode. I truly wish somebody (ie Ralph, who's now dead) would whack this f****n kid.
Hell they could give me a cameo appearance and I'd kill the lil b*****d. Since season 1, I've never hated any character as much as AJ.
Plots are just now thickening up, can't wait till next week. On a side note killin Wild Bill was not teh win.
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Cryz
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 08:33 Post subject:
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| kemble wrote: | | Who's head was that guy swinging around at the end of Deadwood? Some random woman's? |
i think it was an indian... long dark hair... some feather fixture in the hair... the whole idea that it was a head cut from a body being swung around...dont think it was a woman...
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Frax
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 10:39 Post subject:
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| kemble wrote: | | Who's head was that guy swinging around at the end of Deadwood? Some random woman's? |
It was an indian head, in the first episode Al offered a bounty on every indian head/scalp that was brought in, to try and make people think the minnesotans were killed by indians and not bandits.
I'm liking this show better than the Sopranos already, it's got great characters. They didn't go over the part where Wild Bill asks for the seat facing the door tho, and the guy sitting there declined to switch with him, which is how McCall managed to sneak up behind him.
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Goraz
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 10:46 Post subject:
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That was a s****y Sopranos episode.
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 10:53 Post subject:
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Deadwood should be fined by the FCC for severe overuse of the word "c********r". Aside from that tho, it seems like a pretty good show, although I have yet to actually sit down and watch a whole episode.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 11:11 Post subject:
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| Luturb wrote: | | Deadwood should be fined by the FCC for severe overuse of the word "c********r". Aside from that tho, it seems like a pretty good show, although I have yet to actually sit down and watch a whole episode. |
Yeah, I have a hard time picturing actual cowboys saying "c********r", especially that much. I thought they said "tarnation" and stuff like that.
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Frax
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 11:16 Post subject:
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Heh where do you think all the colorful language we use today comes from? The word c********r wasn't invented in the 1960s or something... Its more historically accurate than Bonanza or Gunsmoke!
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 12:14 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Heh where do you think all the colorful language we use today comes from? The word c********r wasn't invented in the 1960s or something... Its more historically accurate than Bonanza or Gunsmoke! |
So true. "b******t" is modern? LOL, The guy who produces this show talked alot about how we, the viewers, think that the west was a very polite place based on the old hollywood vision. It was nothing like that he pointed out, it was just as foul as they portray it.
I love this show, always had intrest in the old west. In a lot of ways Deadwood reminds me of brooklyn in the 80s, and the crack wars. 2000 homicides, everyone shooting, guns everywhere, bodies dropping every other night. Ha, this show is f*****g great. And they say f*****g as much as I do irl:)
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Haroun Zehra
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 12:38 Post subject:
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Wild Bill's description of the other gambler's "c**t mouth" two or three episodes ago was such a dead-on description of Kbarr, it amazed me, frankly.
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Frax
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 12:40 Post subject:
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| Haroun Zehra wrote: | | Wild Bill's description of the other gambler's "c**t mouth" two or three episodes ago was such a dead-on description of Kbarr, it amazed me, frankly. |
come on keep the ad hominen to political /religous threads where they are more relevant! 
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 12:48 Post subject:
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| Haroun Zehra wrote: | | Wild Bill's description of the other gambler's "c**t mouth" two or three episodes ago was such a dead-on description of Kbarr, it amazed me, frankly. |
Girlyman, stop trying to make points. You know you are out of your league. But, since we are doing comparisons, here is mine. I see you as a E B Farnum personality. Sweaty palmed, full of shit, conniving, d**k sucking, weasel type person. In reality I'm a mixture of WB Hickok, burned out, seen it all, take no shit type, and the Al Swearengen, cut your head off for a buck character.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 13:44 Post subject:
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Thanks for the background on Deadwood, Kbarr. Now that I see it is historically accurate, I guess that makes it ok that WB got killed. I just thought he was a great character, very electric.
Now if that history is followed, I suppose the reverend will be killed within 1 or 2 episodes.
Also, if any of you don't know who Ricky Jay is, he plays the large, bearded man who runs the crap tables in the new salloon that rivals Al's salloon. That guy is my hero, and I'm glad he's on the show.
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 14:02 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: |
Also, if any of you don't know who Ricky Jay is, he plays the large, bearded man who runs the crap tables in the new salloon that rivals Al's salloon. That guy is my hero, and I'm glad he's on the show. |
I know i've seen him on TV or on commercials before, something to do with magic cards or magic tricks, and he was also the porno camerman in Boogie Nights.
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 17:45 Post subject:
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I read someplace the other day where they said it was very unlikely that Wild Bill and Seth Bullock ever met in real life, as Bill was killed the day after the Bullocks first came to town. So they actually kept him around longer then would have been historically accurate.
And after all its easier to get in demand actors to just do a few eppisodes of a show then a long term contract. Deadwood seems like the kind of show that can cycle through a lot of characters as its pretty easy to work killing them off into the script.
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 17:57 Post subject:
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I shall be in the neighborhood of Deadwood next month. I'll ask the locals what kind of language their grandparents used. 
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 18:00 Post subject:
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Well, I havn't yet watched Deadwood. I thought it looked... odd, so I shut the TV off.
After hearing your reviews, I'm downloading the first 4 eps. if I like it, that'll be what I watch after Soprano's every sunday.
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Posted: 04/12/04 - 18:01 Post subject:
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| Khabok wrote: | I read someplace the other day where they said it was very unlikely that Wild Bill and Seth Bullock ever met in real life, as Bill was killed the day after the Bullocks first came to town. So they actually kept him around longer then would have been historically accurate.
And after all its easier to get in demand actors to just do a few eppisodes of a show then a long term contract. Deadwood seems like the kind of show that can cycle through a lot of characters as its pretty easy to work killing them off into the script. |
Keith Carradine is in demand? =P
I like how they have Powers Boothe, though.
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