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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:13 Post subject: So what's the deal with.......
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The US f*****g up with letting the Russian's out of Baghdad or shall I say not letting them out after the talks with coalition and such and the Russian flag a waving on the convoy they were taking out of the city?
How will it impact the p****d off Russians with all of this?
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sinrakin
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:15 Post subject:
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I didn't actually understand the question. But I believe it can simply be answered as "9/11 changed everything".
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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:17 Post subject:
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Sunday the US was suppose to let out a bunch of Russian people's to put it simply and they knew they were coming out and knew which roads and where and all of that and instead shot at them and wounded a few
that has nothing to do with 9/11
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Kaladam
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:21 Post subject:
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Russia will do nothing except p**s and moan like an old yet decrepid superpower should.
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Kbarr
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:28 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | I didn't actually understand the question. But I believe it can simply be answered as "9/11 changed everything". |
I agree.
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Syke
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Joined: 12 Oct 2002 Posts: 2976
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:30 Post subject:
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Vio, were you drunk when you worded that first post?
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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:31 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | I didn't actually understand the question. But I believe it can simply be answered as "9/11 changed everything". |
I agree.
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ok so what you are saying kill the innocent just because they may f**k you later
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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:32 Post subject:
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| Syke wrote: | | Vio, were you drunk when you worded that first post? |
Nope but I assume you have not heard what happened or it would make perfect sense
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Kbarr
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:43 Post subject:
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| Vio wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | I didn't actually understand the question. But I believe it can simply be answered as "9/11 changed everything". |
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ok so what you are saying kill the innocent just because they may f**k you later  |
Don't try to put words in my mouth kid.
I agreed that 9/11 changed everything. If you are in an area that America is conducting attitude adjustments you better watch your ass, it might get blown up.
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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:49 Post subject:
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you put the words in your mouth - or do you not know what I am referring too - I can only assume you don't or you would not have replied with that - and I am not a kid
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Dyers
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Joined: 26 Oct 2002 Posts: 1269
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 11:55 Post subject:
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So we shot a few Russians, eh? ouch...
I would not think that as good with the Diplo BS and Politics BS...
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Kbarr
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 12:05 Post subject:
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| Vio wrote: | | you put the words in your mouth - or do you not know what I am referring too - I can only assume you don't or you would not have replied with that - and I am not a kid |
I don't give a flying f**k what YOU are referring too. You didn't show up on my a*****e canadian radar untill you tossed smartassed questions at me. I quoted someone else when I put the cartoon up, not you. I agreed that 9/11 changed everything...thats what I agreed with. Want me to type it again?
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ok so what you are saying kill the innocent just because they may f**k you later  |
I repeate, don't try to put words in my mouth, you d*****t. Besides, anyone who I would consider as a possible threat is never an "innocent" as you call it, just another possible threat. So your question is assinine.
And if you are under 26, you are a kid to me.
Fuckn shithead canadians..
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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 13:09 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Vio wrote: | | you put the words in your mouth - or do you not know what I am referring too - I can only assume you don't or you would not have replied with that - and I am not a kid |
I don't give a flying f**k what YOU are referring too. You didn't show up on my a*****e canadian radar untill you tossed smartassed questions at me. I quoted someone else when I put the cartoon up, not you. I agreed that 9/11 changed everything...thats what I agreed with. Want me to type it again?
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ok so what you are saying kill the innocent just because they may f**k you later  |
I repeate, don't try to put words in my mouth, you d*****t. Besides, anyone who I would consider as a possible threat is never an "innocent" as you call it, just another possible threat. So your question is assinine.
And if you are under 26, you are a kid to me.
Fuckn shithead canadians.. |
ROFL - damn that made my day
No I am not under 26, again not a kid.
Again fucknut for the Engrish you didn't understand the first time I said it, the post I made was what the first reply with the 9/11 comment was in reference too which I replied if you KNEW what I was talking about the reply obviously would have been different - hence the comment on me assuming you had no clue what I was talking about. Therefore that is what YOU referred too regardless what you meant. Would you like me to say that again?
Again if you had ANY clue as to what I was referring too you would ALSO know that the topic was NO f*****g threat to you or the American's actually out their fighting while you sit on your fat ass taking all your frustrations out on others and shooting your mouth off non stop.
It's ok that you hate Canadian's really it is because we don't care about the small percentage of American's who have all this pent up frustration against everyone else but themselves and do nothing but slam others. You complain about Canadian's hating American's well guess what it is people like you and the others with nothing else better to say that gives you a bad name for ANY country outside of yours - get it yet?
Good thing my opinion of liking the US is not based on the likes of a few here
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Kbarr
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 13:20 Post subject:
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No I am not under 26, again not a kid.
Again fucknut for the Engrish you didn't understand the first time I said it, the post I made was what the first reply with the 9/11 comment was in reference too which I replied if you KNEW what I was talking about the reply obviously would have been different - hence the comment on me assuming you had no clue what I was talking about. Therefore that is what YOU referred too regardless what you meant. Would you like me to say that again?
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No please don't say anything to me again.
I see now that you are spawn of the "maelstrom" line of canadians.
Painfully stupid.
And about your age, I don't believe you. Not with this thing hanging under your name.
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Fluxus the Rogue
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 13:26 Post subject:
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I don't think it was American troops the shot up that Russian diplomat convoy. If it was, we f****d up because orders were given to let them pass safely.
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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 13:27 Post subject:
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Trust me I am not under 26 and yes a cartoon Icon shows that
I guess some still pics attaining to violence shows your ages as well correct? lol
what is more painfully stupid is you still don't get it - but keep resorting to your comments - that is what truly shows your age.
Should fit you in around the 10-15ish, if I remember correctly that was a junior high or lower thing to do back then
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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 13:29 Post subject:
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For the actual conversation I wanted out of this since nobody had commented on it yet and it is all up in the air and the Russians are p****d off right now and such here is a link to get you all caught up.
I was looking for actual reaction to what happened and since it is all hearsay as to what happened at the moment I was curious on thoughts which stem back to the Russia/China talks when the war first started
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/08/sprj.irq.int.russia.convoy/
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Fluxus the Rogue
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 13:35 Post subject:
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Vershbow said that although it is still unclear who fired on the group, it is now clear that the convoy deviated from a route out of Baghdad that was coordinated with the U.S. military.
"It is already apparent that the Russian ambassador may have decided, for reasons we don't know, to take a different route from the one we recommended and instead to follow the advice of the Iraqis," Vershbow said.
"We did everything we could to minimize the risk for this convoy, while recognizing that it was going to pass through areas that were not under total control by American forces."
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I think our Ambassador to Russia summed up the situation nicely.
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Kbarr
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 13:36 Post subject:
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| Vio wrote: | Trust me I am not under 26 and yes a cartoon Icon shows that
I guess some still pics attaining to violence whos your ages as well correct? lol
what is more painfully stupid is you still don't get it - but keep resorting to your comments - that is what truly shows your age.
Should fit you in around the 10-15ish, if I remember correctly that was a junior high or lower thing to do back then |
Hey you stupid canadian a*****e, take your cartoon and hit the door. I'm tired of your b******t:)
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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 13:41 Post subject:
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| Fluxus the Rogue wrote: | | Quote: |
Vershbow said that although it is still unclear who fired on the group, it is now clear that the convoy deviated from a route out of Baghdad that was coordinated with the U.S. military.
"It is already apparent that the Russian ambassador may have decided, for reasons we don't know, to take a different route from the one we recommended and instead to follow the advice of the Iraqis," Vershbow said.
"We did everything we could to minimize the risk for this convoy, while recognizing that it was going to pass through areas that were not under total control by American forces."
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I think our Ambassador to Russia summed up the situation nicely. |
Yes things were different this morning and last night when the talks were hot on this subject ....
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 13:49 Post subject:
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Stupid from Iraq to have attacked this convoy Russia is 1 of the country whos the most against the war...
They lost some faction here.
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Rennol
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 14:19 Post subject:
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Kbarr I thought you "left a trail of pearl necklaces" throughout Europe, what's so bad with Vio's sig =\
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Minion
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 16:36 Post subject:
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I find it amusing how Vio, a Canadian, is quick to approach hot topics involving the U.S. and the war, meanwhile Canada backed out saying they wanted "nothing to do with it," most Canadians seemed to praise this amazing decision (as if it mattered in the first place.) And despite that, here he is, with his huge boiling pot of opinions.
Critique is a luxury of those on the sidelines.
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Vio
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 04/08/03 - 16:39 Post subject:
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| Minion wrote: | I find it amusing how Vio, a Canadian, is quick to approach hot topics involving the U.S. and the war, meanwhile Canada backed out saying they wanted "nothing to do with it," most Canadians seemed to praise this amazing decision (as if it mattered in the first place.) And despite that, here he is, with his huge boiling pot of opinions.
Critique is a luxury of those on the sidelines. |
nice but if you read any of this I was interested in finding out what you all thought of what happened and what I think has nothing to do with what the Prime Minister makes as a decision - I would choose not to fight in a war first and foremost as I have always said.
Canada never backed out of anything, we were never in. And if I was American I still would want to know what everything tought of the Russian incident wtf does that have to do with what country you come from!?!?
/boggle I guess it matters simply because if you are with us in the war you are worthy and if not you aren't!
As far as the sidelines go - everyone American here is guilty of that as well
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Minion
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 16:53 Post subject:
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| Vio wrote: | | Minion wrote: | I find it amusing how Vio, a Canadian, is quick to approach hot topics involving the U.S. and the war, meanwhile Canada backed out saying they wanted "nothing to do with it," most Canadians seemed to praise this amazing decision (as if it mattered in the first place.) And despite that, here he is, with his huge boiling pot of opinions.
Critique is a luxury of those on the sidelines. |
nice but if you read any of this I was interested in finding out what you all thought of what happened and what I think has nothing to do with what the Prime Minister makes as a decision - I would choose not to fight in a war first and foremost as I have always said.
Canada never backed out of anything, we were never in. And if I was American I still would want to know what everything tought of the Russian incident wtf does that have to do with what country you come from!?!?
/boggle I guess it matters simply because if you are with us in the war you are worthy and if not you aren't!
As far as the sidelines go - everyone American here is guilty of that as well | You don't seem to get it, you're so interested in the war yet your Prime Minister said Canada wanted nothing to do with it. Why's that?
Americans on the sideline? Are you really this stupid? Regardless of whether or not they're fighting in the war, they elected Bush and the stakes are high for everyone here. If there are no weapons of mass destruction found then the reputation of the U.S. gets flushed further down the toilet, especially now that they U.S. has basically proven that the U.N. is nothing but a bunch of monkeys who only think they have even the mildest amount of influence on the world.
Americans have a right to protest the war or support it. Canada on the other hand "doesn't want any part of it" yet they all seem to be greatly absorbed in it. Why? You don't want any part of it... or do you...
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Akronn
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 16:54 Post subject:
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I didn't elect Bush, Minion, and neither did the majority
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Minion
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 16:56 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | I didn't elect Bush, Minion, and neither did the majority  | So how did he swindle his way to the top? Who are you going to place the blame on? It's pretty easy to offload it to bush isn't it, but where is it really supposed to go?
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compusmack
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Vio
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 17:08 Post subject:
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| Minion wrote: | | Vio wrote: | | Minion wrote: | I find it amusing how Vio, a Canadian, is quick to approach hot topics involving the U.S. and the war, meanwhile Canada backed out saying they wanted "nothing to do with it," most Canadians seemed to praise this amazing decision (as if it mattered in the first place.) And despite that, here he is, with his huge boiling pot of opinions.
Critique is a luxury of those on the sidelines. |
nice but if you read any of this I was interested in finding out what you all thought of what happened and what I think has nothing to do with what the Prime Minister makes as a decision - I would choose not to fight in a war first and foremost as I have always said.
Canada never backed out of anything, we were never in. And if I was American I still would want to know what everything tought of the Russian incident wtf does that have to do with what country you come from!?!?
/boggle I guess it matters simply because if you are with us in the war you are worthy and if not you aren't!
As far as the sidelines go - everyone American here is guilty of that as well | You don't seem to get it, you're so interested in the war yet your Prime Minister said Canada wanted nothing to do with it. Why's that?
Americans on the sideline? Are you really this stupid? Regardless of whether or not they're fighting in the war, they elected Bush and the stakes are high for everyone here. If there are no weapons of mass destruction found then the reputation of the U.S. gets flushed further down the toilet, especially now that they U.S. has basically proven that the U.N. is nothing but a bunch of monkeys who only think they have even the mildest amount of influence on the world.
Americans have a right to protest the war or support it. Canada on the other hand "doesn't want any part of it" yet they all seem to be greatly absorbed in it. Why? You don't want any part of it... or do you... |
No I get it just fine Minion - you don't get it that I can have my own opinion regardless of what my Prime Minister or anyone else in this world for that matter does, I agree with not going to war, for one as you said you don't need the help so why send in more of our people if you are all so high and mighty as you like to say over and over again and realistically against a powerless Iraq to begin with.
We are absorbed in it for many reasons such as trade which does matter to us, oil matters to us and the list goes on. Just because someone of a different country has interest in what is happening doesn't mean we have to either jump on the bandwagon or not although you may wish it were that way!
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Posted: 04/08/03 - 17:20 Post subject:
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Yes, the oil, what a concern.
It's funny how Americans are portrayed as the big bad oil nazis isn't it? While lots of idiots have chosen to protest the end to the war in Iraq because they think that it's hurting the civilians, you on the other hand, are concerned because it affects Canadas oil prices.
I like that. You've chosen a very reasonable excuse for your need to get involved. Something different from the typical peace loving idiotic Canadian who thinks the war is "wrong" because they've painted this wonderful barbaric picture of the United States. You're right, it could impact your oil prices. Perhaps it's time to abandon fossil fuels though. After all, if we really ARE the big bad oil nazis, you'd only be helping us in our quest for global resource domination by continuing to consume oil you purchase from Iraq.
Bicycles are very efficient modes of transportation, I use one infact. You should try it.
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