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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 19:14    Post subject: So weapons inspectors just found a dozen more warheads Reply with quote

Filled with Sarin. Yet I have seen no mention in the press. How fascinating.

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2004&m=June&x=200406251147502XTkcolluB0.8447992&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 20:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 20:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO ONE GIVES A SHIT CONFUSED. STOP POSTING.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 20:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there is medication for confused's condition.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 20:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

That post was important, I wouldn't have known otherwise.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 20:36    Post subject: Re: So weapons inspectors just found a dozen more warheads Reply with quote

Confused wrote:
Filled with Sarin. Yet I have seen no mention in the press. How fascinating.

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2004&m=June&x=200406251147502XTkcolluB0.8447992&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html


havent you heard dude sarin is not a wmd, its a happy fun time gas for kids.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 20:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frehya wrote:
I think there is medication for confused's condition.


Yea, a combination of a gun and 1 bullet.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 20:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mugaaz wrote:
Frehya wrote:
I think there is medication for confused's condition.


Yea, a combination of a gun and 1 bullet.

One bullet can't kill every liberal, silly!
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 20:43    Post subject: Re: So weapons inspectors just found a dozen more warheads Reply with quote

Tolanin wrote:
Confused wrote:
Filled with Sarin. Yet I have seen no mention in the press. How fascinating.

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2004&m=June&x=200406251147502XTkcolluB0.8447992&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html


havent you heard dude sarin is not a wmd, its a happy fun time gas for kids.


I think this quote is the culprit for the post being so wide, well the link.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 20:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mugaaz wrote:
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT CONFUSED. STOP POSTING.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 22:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

i give a shit, you guys are just p****d cause they still have WMD and you are all wrong ^^ same w/ the media
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 23:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

themy wrote:
i give a shit, you guys are just p****d cause they still have WMD and you are all wrong ^^ same w/ the media


i wonder if bush laughed or cried when he heard this news. I guess its true, a desert is a really big place with lots of places to hide stuff.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 23:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jakanden wrote:
Mugaaz wrote:
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT CONFUSED. STOP POSTING.


YES CONFUSED BE QUIET, YOU ARE PROVING THE LIBERALS WRONG. YOU KNOW THEY CAN'T BE WRONG. THIS UPSETS THE ENTIRE BALANCE OF THE UNIVERSE.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 23:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

themy wrote:
i give a shit, you guys are just p****d cause they still have WMD and you are all wrong ^^ same w/ the media
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 23:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me rephrase. I do give a shit about the actual WMD. What I don't give a shit about is this on realpoor. I don't know about you, but for me there is a time and place for everything. I don't eat while taking a shit, I don't j**k off while in church, and I don't work out at 3 in the morning.

What's my point?

I don't read Realpoor to hear about political news, and in fact I don't think ANYBODY does except Confused/WNWS, and 1 or 2 others. So if you are concerned about WMD that's great. I'm sure there are a great number of political and foreign policy forums. But as far as I know Realpoor is a forum about ex-MMO players, goatse, and the occasional picture of 2 guys kissing.

Kindly take your political thoughts and shove them into another forum or up your ass.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 23:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mugaaz wrote:
Let me rephrase. I do give a shit about the actual WMD. What I don't give a shit about is this on realpoor. I don't know about you, but for me there is a time and place for everything. I don't eat while taking a shit, I don't j**k off while in church, and I don't work out at 3 in the morning.

What's my point?

I don't read Realpoor to hear about political news, and in fact I don't think ANYBODY does except Confused/WNWS, and 1 or 2 others. So if you are concerned about WMD that's great. I'm sure there are a great number of political and foreign policy forums. But as far as I know Realpoor is a forum about ex-MMO players, goatse, and the occasional picture of 2 guys kissing.

Kindly take your political thoughts and shove them into another forum or up your ass.


Then why do you read all of his threads? d*****s.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 23:42    Post subject: well first off Reply with quote

I am thinking this is the area you were speaking of...

Q: Larry, the head of the Iraq Survey Group, Charlie Duelfer, told Fox today that his team has found a dozen artillery shells and rockets that confirmed contained sarin or mustard gas. Now, you talked previously about the two shells that were unexploded in those IEDs, and you pointed (out) that they were from the first gulf war, dated back to that time, and this new discovery is supposed to date back as well. Is there a feeling that they're not a threat or that they still couldn't be used as weapons of terror?

MR. DI RITA: Well, first of all, Charlie in the ISG report to the director of Central Intelligence -- and I wouldn't want to try and characterize what he may have said. I saw a transcript of some remarks he did provide, and he did talk about there's a lot of questions about these shells. There was, in fact, an obligation that Saddam had to declare what he was holding, and we know that he only declared a small percentage of what he had previously reported. So, I mean, several hundred tons of these things were unaccounted for. But again, there's more questions that need to be resolved, and I wouldn't want to try and characterize, you know, how these ultimately will be disposed -- in terms of what the disposition of these things is.

But the fact is that if we've got that kind of weapon activity -- I think Mr. Duelfer also spoke about what he is starting to see as a thirst for the insurgents -- possible attempts by them to either get control of the knowledge, the database, the knowledge base that exists in that country -- scientists, et cetera. And we know just through historical example that these groups have a thirst for weapons of mass destruction.

So, I mean, I would say yes, it is something that people need to be mindful of, and I know that they are.



so its a total of 14 shell (2 found earlier and 12 today). To me, that does not equal the huge stockpiles of WMD as we were lead to believe existed. He does mention that there are still several hundred tons unaccounted for so this could be pointing to more trouble to come for all the troops over there. He also talks about the insurgents and their thirst for WMD and that maby someone has kowledge of these missing weapons, but giving their fanaticism if they had access or knowledge of these, would they not have been employed already? Additionaly there is no evidence to indicate that the 12 shells found today originated from Iraq. Personally I am greatfull that they were found and not used.
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 23:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
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PostPosted: 06/25/04 - 23:51    Post subject: Re: well first off Reply with quote

Milkker wrote:
I am thinking this is the area you were speaking of...

Q: Larry, the head of the Iraq Survey Group, Charlie Duelfer, told Fox today that his team has found a dozen artillery shells and rockets that confirmed contained sarin or mustard gas. Now, you talked previously about the two shells that were unexploded in those IEDs, and you pointed (out) that they were from the first gulf war, dated back to that time, and this new discovery is supposed to date back as well. Is there a feeling that they're not a threat or that they still couldn't be used as weapons of terror?

MR. DI RITA: Well, first of all, Charlie in the ISG report to the director of Central Intelligence -- and I wouldn't want to try and characterize what he may have said. I saw a transcript of some remarks he did provide, and he did talk about there's a lot of questions about these shells. There was, in fact, an obligation that Saddam had to declare what he was holding, and we know that he only declared a small percentage of what he had previously reported. So, I mean, several hundred tons of these things were unaccounted for. But again, there's more questions that need to be resolved, and I wouldn't want to try and characterize, you know, how these ultimately will be disposed -- in terms of what the disposition of these things is.

But the fact is that if we've got that kind of weapon activity -- I think Mr. Duelfer also spoke about what he is starting to see as a thirst for the insurgents -- possible attempts by them to either get control of the knowledge, the database, the knowledge base that exists in that country -- scientists, et cetera. And we know just through historical example that these groups have a thirst for weapons of mass destruction.

So, I mean, I would say yes, it is something that people need to be mindful of, and I know that they are.



so its a total of 14 shell (2 found earlier and 12 today). To me, that does not equal the huge stockpiles of WMD as we were lead to believe existed. He does mention that there are still several hundred tons unaccounted for so this could be pointing to more trouble to come for all the troops over there. He also talks about the insurgents and their thirst for WMD and that maby someone has kowledge of these missing weapons, but giving their fanaticism if they had access or knowledge of these, would they not have been employed already? Additionaly there is no evidence to indicate that the 12 shells found today originated from Iraq. Personally I am greatfull that they were found and not used.


they are fanatics, not tactical retards, if they have access to such weapons they will not use them on a whim but instead wait for an oportune moment. 12 is 6 times more than we had before, the desert is a huge place and saddam had 10 years to hide this stuff and make sure no one knew were it was, you act like its easy to find it and that wmds are just laying all around, imagine how well we could hide our nukes if we wanted to. The fact that they keep finding these things just proves that there is way way more of them, the odds of finding the only stockpile of gas shells in that entire country is extremely low... so we can safely assume there are many many more.
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PostPosted: 06/26/04 - 00:03    Post subject: ummm... Reply with quote

ya know... I never said that there wasnt large stockpiles of WMD, in fact if I may quote myself from my own text:

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He does mention that there are still several hundred tons unaccounted for so this could be pointing to more trouble to come for all the troops over there


Maby they are there, maby they are not, I dont know I am not over there looking for them.

What I did say was there was no proof that these shells came from an Iraq stockpile. Also tactically sound or not, if you whip out chemical weapons you are going to invoke fear, which is the goal of most terriorist organizations. If they really wanted a scared Coalition force they would use some of these stockpiles of WMD. Its already proven that they dont value the lives of Iraqies, let alone their own.

Personally I really hope that if these stockpiles are out there we find them first... I want our troops to come one on planes, not in coffins.
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PostPosted: 06/26/04 - 00:13    Post subject: Re: ummm... Reply with quote

Milkker wrote:
ya know... I never said that there wasnt large stockpiles of WMD, in fact if I may quote myself from my own text:

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He does mention that there are still several hundred tons unaccounted for so this could be pointing to more trouble to come for all the troops over there


Maby they are there, maby they are not, I dont know I am not over there looking for them.

What I did say was there was no proof that these shells came from an Iraq stockpile. Also tactically sound or not, if you whip out chemical weapons you are going to invoke fear, which is the goal of most terriorist organizations. If they really wanted a scared Coalition force they would use some of these stockpiles of WMD. Its already proven that they dont value the lives of Iraqies, let alone their own.

Personally I really hope that if these stockpiles are out there we find them first... I want our troops to come one on planes, not in coffins.


their goal in iraq is to make us leave and take over the country not to just make everyone afraid.
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their goal in iraq is to make us leave and take over the country not to just make everyone afraid.


Exactly, so you use chemical weapons, raise public outcry, make the governments afraid and they pull their troops out.

Heck it only took one beheading of a South Korean and there was huge upheaval in reguards to their deployment of 3000 troups to help with rebuilding.
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PostPosted: 06/26/04 - 00:56    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

Milkker wrote:
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their goal in iraq is to make us leave and take over the country not to just make everyone afraid.


Exactly, so you use chemical weapons, raise public outcry, make the governments afraid and they pull their troops out.

Heck it only took one beheading of a South Korean and there was huge upheaval in reguards to their deployment of 3000 troups to help with rebuilding.


It's not South Korea's war.
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PostPosted: 06/26/04 - 00:59    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

Milkker wrote:
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their goal in iraq is to make us leave and take over the country not to just make everyone afraid.


Exactly, so you use chemical weapons, raise public outcry, make the governments afraid and they pull their troops out.

Heck it only took one beheading of a South Korean and there was huge upheaval in reguards to their deployment of 3000 troups to help with rebuilding.


thats a retarded sugestion, the entire reason we went in the first place was because of WMDs, do you think using WMDs and proving that we really were right and should have invaded because they do pose a threat and are willing to use WMDs would be a good idea? God i wish people like you were in charge of the terrorists, winning would be so much easier.
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PostPosted: 06/26/04 - 01:12    Post subject: well.. Reply with quote

soooo you think if they had access to a large stockpile of chemical weapons they would not use them because it would prove that we were justified on invading them?

You said yourself their goal was to get us out of the country... the senario I gave was one method to accomplish this. In the end though nothing will remove us from the country. They are fanitical I dont think they would care to prove anything other than use means to further their own ends. If that meant using WMD, then sure they would use them.

Why are you so bitter at the end of your post? Have I not been civil? Are you upset that something I typed differes from your mindset or are you disturbed that something I typed made sence and makes you question your own beliefs. Either way I am glad your not leading them, otherwise we would not be having this discussion.
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PostPosted: 06/26/04 - 01:38    Post subject: Re: well.. Reply with quote

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soooo you think if they had access to a large stockpile of chemical weapons they would not use them because it would prove that we were justified on invading them?

You said yourself their goal was to get us out of the country... the senario I gave was one method to accomplish this. In the end though nothing will remove us from the country. They are fanitical I dont think they would care to prove anything other than use means to further their own ends. If that meant using WMD, then sure they would use them.

Why are you so bitter at the end of your post? Have I not been civil? Are you upset that something I typed differes from your mindset or are you disturbed that something I typed made sence and makes you question your own beliefs. Either way I am glad your not leading them, otherwise we would not be having this discussion.


isnt that kinda a contridiction? What I am saying is there is a time and place for everything, you dont just use your new weapon simply because its there and you could, you wait for the time when it will be most effective. Launching a small chemical attack will accomplish almost nothing other than to make more people believe the invasion was justified. Any attack they launch that involves use of a WMD would have to be a massive attack, one that would cripple the US effort in the country, if they couldnt do that using the WMD would hurt them more than us. One of the first rules of war is to destroy your opponent so utterly that they can not ever rise up again and fight you. Using your trump card in small inconsequential attacks designed just to lower moral is a horrible idea in terms of strategy. It would be like us using an atomic bomb on the japanese countryside in WWII, while impressive in its deadlyness the attack just would not have enough real effect to be worth revealing that capability.

And i sound angry cause i come down at night when shit starts to wear off, its nothing personal.
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PostPosted: 06/26/04 - 02:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one cares, if you really wanna have your arguement about WMD:
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Aandidar wrote:
No one cares, if you really wanna have your arguement about WMD:


this forum is more political than anything now, so stfu we will talk about what we want.
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PostPosted: 06/26/04 - 02:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tolanin wrote:
Aandidar wrote:
No one cares, if you really wanna have your arguement about WMD:


this forum is more political than anything now, so stfu we will talk about what we want.


No!
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PostPosted: 06/26/04 - 04:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

this thread is festering...
and yes 1 bullet could technically kill every liberal...

if it were filled with sarin gas...

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