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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:24 Post subject: So since 2000 when the King Redneck took office..
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Ecomony is terrible.
Deficit is the worst it's been since WW2.
Education is just about the same as it ever has been: poor. (just like his homestate that edumacated that stupid m**********r. My SAT score was a full 200pts higher than his, btw. And I was edumacated in that same assbackwards country shithole he calls home.)
Pretty much the rest of the world hates us, which realistically could lead to much worse things down the road.
N. Korea has managed to develop nuclear weapons and have become the world's most freightening country DURING HIS WATCH.
We started a war under TOTALLY FALSE PRETENSES and our President was the head of the witch hunt....all to take emphasis off of Bin Laden, mind you.
We occupy a country, call the people who live there and disagree with our occupation "insurgents", and kill tens of thousands of them for nothing. A smoke screen.
Kerry flip flops? Or maybe you can find one country bumfuck somewhere who says something bad about him.
But you want GEORGE AGAIN?@!
Seriously....what the f**k is wrong with your collective minds?
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:32 Post subject:
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Anyone want to tackle this?
Or are we still saying Kerry flip floping is worse than the f*****g LIST I JUST MADE?
Or have you all jumped ship to the next accusation, which has not been proven yet, despite what Khrath's Oklahoma mind will tell you. Dumbshit...go read before you talk, please.
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Vekril
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:33 Post subject:
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I think most of us have just chosen to ignore you Megalo =)
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:34 Post subject:
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I think it's more like you HAVE to Vekky. Be honest. Ivy League dropout.
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Vekril
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:35 Post subject:
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minor fact correction
Ivy League graduate c*m laude
law school dropout!!
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:37 Post subject:
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ok, got me there
But really...I just listed off half a dozen **MAJOR MAJOR** things. And there's about 10 of yas to me.
And yet nobody can refute what I say?
You honestly don't think Dubbya is a major, self-serving fuckup?
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Vekril
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:40 Post subject:
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We have refuted each of your points in the past Megalo. Quoted the appropriate sources (not just right wing ones), made the proper arguments, pointed out the legitimate disputed facts.
Yet you ignore us 100%, and post your same over the top Michael Moore style hysterical slander against Bush.
So why should we waste our energy? Tell me please
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:48 Post subject:
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Becuase you simply cannot. That is the reason.
You cannot.
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:49 Post subject:
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Actually, I look up most everything I say and give you references.
You give me ass breath.
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:54 Post subject: Re: So since 2000 when the King Redneck took office..
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| Megalo wrote: | Ecomony is terrible.
Deficit is the worst it's been since WW2.
Education is just about the same as it ever has been: poor. (just like his homestate that edumacated that stupid m**********r. My SAT score was a full 200pts higher than his, btw. And I was edumacated in that same assbackwards country shithole he calls home.)
Pretty much the rest of the world hates us, which realistically could lead to much worse things down the road.
N. Korea has managed to develop nuclear weapons and have become the world's most freightening country DURING HIS WATCH.
We started a war under TOTALLY FALSE PRETENSES and our President was the head of the witch hunt....all to take emphasis off of Bin Laden, mind you.
We occupy a country, call the people who live there and disagree with our occupation "insurgents", and kill tens of thousands of them for nothing. A smoke screen.
Kerry flip flops? Or maybe you can find one country bumfuck somewhere who says something bad about him.
But you want GEORGE AGAIN?@!
Seriously....what the f**k is wrong with your collective minds? |
Youre right on man.
I hope we will be serving this piece of shit his walking papers in 6 days.
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:54 Post subject:
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I go through this same shit with the in-laws.
Those Jewish m***********s are also convinced everyone in the Middle East is a direct descendant of Satan.
And they'll take that notion with em to the grave. I know this Jewkky. I'll never convince you, and even more so, you're scared of what I have to say so you don't even read it.
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:55 Post subject: Re: So since 2000 when the King Redneck took office..
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Ecomony is terrible.
You do understand that George Bush inherited the recession from Clinton right? That isn't opinion, that's well established fact. You also do realize that a capitalist economy such as ours moves in cycles, and that it's perfectly normal (and encouraged) for an economy such as ours to decline for a short period of time right?
http://economics.about.com/cs/studentresources/f/business_cycle.htm
Deficit is the worst it's been since WW2.
That's called interest. The deficit was created to pay for WW2 (hence the birth of the Income Tax), and to pay for other government spending. You do realize that the President isn't in charge of all government spending, but rather the House and the Senate pass those bills that cause the spending. Which contains both Democracts and Republicans.
What would you do? Raise taxes? You can't pull an economy out of a recession and have high taxes at the same time. It doesn't work that way. Bush's plan will work, it's just not instant (nothing in economics is instant).
http://traxel.com/deficit/
Education is just about the same as it ever has been: poor. (just like his homestate that edumacated that stupid m**********r. My SAT score was a full 200pts higher than his, btw. And I was edumacated in that same assbackwards country shithole he calls home.)
The problem with the education system stems from a local level, and not a federal one. Infact, the Federal government shouldn't even be involved in the education system. It should be handled by the state and local governments. Throwing money at the problem does absolutly d**k.
Pretty much the rest of the world hates us, which realistically could lead to much worse things down the road.
The world has hated us since WW2. Evey super power throughout history was hated by every other country. When France was number 1, Spain and England did their damndest to take them down, the same when it became Englands turn, and Spains turn. Even Rome was hated by everyone when they controlled the world. It's human nature to hate number 1.
They aren't going to magically get over their hatred for us if Kerry is elected.
N. Korea has managed to develop nuclear weapons and have become the world's most freightening country DURING HIS WATCH.
What would you have us do? Invade them? You can't even stomach Iraq, how would you like sending our troops into a country with a million man standing army, that would probably get aid from China. I'm not saying we couldn't kick their ass, but there'd definatly be a draft and a lot of bloodshed.
North Korea is going to do what it can to develop their arsenal. They're under a communist regime, with a dictator in power. That's what dictatorships do.
We started a war under TOTALLY FALSE PRETENSES and our President was the head of the witch hunt....all to take emphasis off of Bin Laden, mind you.
We started the war with Iraq because the UN couldn't enforce it's own sanctions. The WMD was just one of many reasons to go in there. Including toppling a dictator who had been known to use WMD on enemies and his own people, who had shot at US planes enforcing a no-fly zone put in place by the UN.
http://www.cfrterrorism.org/causes/iraq.html
We occupy a country, call the people who live there and disagree with our occupation "insurgents", and kill tens of thousands of them for nothing. A smoke screen.
US armed forces aren't going door to door killing every civilian they see. They're only shooting those that are stupid enough to shoot at them. Want the killing to stop? Stop shooting at us dipshits.
Kerry flip flops? Or maybe you can find one country bumfuck somewhere who says something bad about him.
Every other nation in the world hates Kerry just as much as they hate Bush.
But you want GEORGE AGAIN?@!
I don't like Bush either, but I'll take him over Kerry any day.
Seriously....what the f**k is wrong with your collective minds?
Edit: Added sources and facts to prove what I've already stated. I didn't bother looking up the ones that were based on your opinion (education, Iraqis and the internationa's hating us) as it's impossible to get any idea whether or not a country hates us through the media.
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 17:57 Post subject:
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I give you a list of facts (minus maybe the education one...that's hard to prove one way or the other) and you come back to me with opinions?
Give me references. Everyone on RP talks through the anus.
You listing off all your opinions to me on the subject does nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:00 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | I give you a list of facts (minus maybe the education one...that's hard to prove one way or the other) and you come back to me with opinions?
Give me references. Everyone on RP talks through the anus.
You listing off all your opinions to me on the subject does nothing. Absolutely nothing. |
Your so-called "facts" are nothing but opinions as well. Sorry. :/
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Frax
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:01 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: |
Give me references. Everyone on RP talks through the anus.
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Including you
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:02 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | I give you a list of facts (minus maybe the education one...that's hard to prove one way or the other) and you come back to me with opinions?
Give me references. Everyone on RP talks through the anus.
You listing off all your opinions to me on the subject does nothing. Absolutely nothing. |
He comes back to you with excuses.
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:04 Post subject:
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You realize Dubbya has outlined a plan to reduce our current $413 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT by *half in 5 years*?
hahahahaha. Holy shit that's classic.
He can surely spend it in less than 4 years, but his brilliant plan is to now reduce what he did by half in 5 years?
Holy shit man! Do even know how many business Dubbya has PERSONALLY run into the ground? It's nearing a dozen right now.
That's funny shit. Clinton's fault? Before Dubbya took over, I'd say most of us were pretty happy with things. Wouldn't you?
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:07 Post subject:
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I started 3 threads yesterday. All of them have actual references for what I'm saying today, as they're pretty much the same info. Go look up em up ya lazy s***s. I'm not gonna wipe your ass for you.
But you read my posts before attacking me, tho, right Frax? um..
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:11 Post subject:
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Hell, one reference I use is Airforecetimes.com
Mr. Airforce! f**k you people kill me with the anus talking!
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:13 Post subject:
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See edited post.
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:16 Post subject:
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Umm...honestly I'm not sure how to answer you. That reference you made says that sanctions p****d off Bin Laden enough to attack us.
uhh...OK!?
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:18 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | Umm...honestly I'm not sure how to answer you. That reference you made says that sanctions p****d off Bin Laden enough to attack us.
uhh...OK!? |
Read down more newb. Do you just read the topic of every article and then draw your conclusions, or do you even bother reading the whole thing?
Yes, the crock about the sanctions being the cause of 9/11 is a bunch of b******t, but at the end of the article that explains the UN sanctions against Iraq a bit better is the point I'm making.
Edit: You're probably too stupid to do what I suggested above, so I'll hold your hand.
| Quote: | Why did the United Nations impose economic sanctions on Iraq?
In August 1990, after Iraqi forces invaded Kuwait, the U.N. Security Council passed a resolution under Article VII of the U.N. Charter (thereby making it binding on all U.N. members) that banned all financial transactions with Iraq, international flights to Iraq, and trade with Iraq in all goods except medicine and humanitarian food aid. In April 1991, after the Gulf War ended, the Security Council passed Resolution 687, which determined that the sanctions would continue until Iraq met several conditions, chief among them shutting down its programs to produce chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons and destroying its existing weapons of mass destruction. This resolution also required Iraq to prove to the international community that it was disarmed. However, Saddam has not complied with international supervision of this process. Experts say the Security Council has modified its sanctions plan several times to address the needs of the Iraqi people while at the same time continuing to prevent Iraq from rebuilding its military capabilities.
Has the United Nations adjusted its sanctions on Iraq to address humanitarian concerns?
Yes. Since they were first imposed, the sanctions have allowed Iraq to sell oil to buy food, medicine, and other humanitarian goods. In 1995, the Security Council established the so-called oil-for-food program, which created a mechanism for Iraq to do so. Baghdad initially refused to participate in the program, but in 1996 Iraq assented. In response to Iraqi claims that it was not being allowed to sell enough oil to meet its humanitarian needs, the limits were first raised and then eliminated altogether. All Security Council members have the ability to block imports into Iraq (to prevent the importation of military or “dual-use” items), and critics of sanctions say that American and British screening of import contracts has been unreasonably strict. However, U.N. officials, including Secretary General Kofi Annan, have repeatedly observed that Iraq has not taken full advantage of the oil-for-food program, and U.S. intelligence reports say that Iraq habitually sells humanitarian goods or converts them for military use.
Whom do sanctions supporters hold responsible for suffering in Iraq?
U.S. officials and other sanctions supporters say any responsibility for human misery in Iraq lies with Saddam Hussein, who has it in his power to end the sanctions by permitting international weapons inspections, surrendering his doomsday weapons, and meeting the other U.N. demands. Even within the framework of the sanctions, experts say, the oil-for-food program should allow Iraq to meet all of its civilian needs. The United States says that Iraq has exported humanitarian goods, including baby food, on the black market; placed large orders for medical supplies that have military applications; and converted trucks intended for transporting humanitarian supplies into military vehicles. Northern Iraq, where the United Nations administers the oil-for-food program, is markedly better off than the rest of the country, where Saddam blocks it. The aftereffects of the 1980s Iran-Iraq War and the 1991 Gulf War also contribute to civilian suffering, sanctions supporters say. |
If you'd like to read the sanctions themselves, as set by the UN. http://www.un.org/News/ossg/iraq.htm
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:22 Post subject:
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oh i get it. So you reference of TRUTH is half b******t and half truth.
And you're the one who gets to determine this?
dude....come on. You're bringing a dull butterknife to my gunfight.
do you get it yet? you read an article, threw away whatever disagrees with you, and throw whatever you happen to agree with, in my face? And pawn your version of what's correct as fact.
That's comical.
I used to national treasury and air force times. you witless wonder you 
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:22 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | oh i get it. So you reference of TRUTH is half b******t and half truth.
And you're the one who gets to determine this?
dude....come on. You're bringing a dull butterknife to my gunfight. |
Try reading the article d*****t.
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:28 Post subject:
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Why would I use your article as truth? (and I did read it, that's not the point).
You yourself said half of it was b******t. Now, being the thinking man that I am, I tend to want to go with sources that are reliable.
Not spitting out half b******t, as you said yourself.
That's how we get anus breath.
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:31 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | Why would I use your article as truth? (and I did read it, that's not the point).
You yourself said half of it was b******t. Now, being the thinking man that I am, I tend to want to go with sources that are reliable.
Not spitting out half b******t, as you said yourself.
That's how we get anus breath.  |
So you're saying that the sanctions that are written on the UN's very own website, that the UN WROTE THEMSELVES. Is b******t because it's on a webpage?
By that definition, neither of your sources are fact either.
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:32 Post subject:
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Sure the sanctions are real. Now how the f**k are you relating that to what you said?
Man, you're giving me a headache. I don't dumb down w/o incident yanno.
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:34 Post subject:
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And the national treasury lies to us now too?
Moron. I'm done with ya. This is taking focus off of the fact that I listed a shit load of important things Bush has f****d up.
Not a goddamned one of ya simpletons can tell me otherwise. Brilliant.
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:36 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | Sure the sanctions are real. Now how the f**k are you relating that to what you said?
Man, you're giving me a headache. I don't dumb down w/o incident yanno. |
You said the Iraq was was unjustified, when infact by UN and international law it was.
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/27/04 - 18:37 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | And the national treasury lies to us now too?
Moron. I'm done with ya. This is taking focus off of the fact that I listed a shit load of important things Bush has f****d up.
Not a goddamned one of ya simpletons can tell me otherwise. Brilliant. |
And I proved every one of your opinions wrong.
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