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Luturb
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 4043
Location: Livermore, California
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Posted: 12/08/03 - 19:01 Post subject: So, who got banned?
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This is from the EQLive Developer's Corner:
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"Cheaters and the recent up swell of concern (12-8-03)
Over the last few days there has been a growing community concern about possible cheating, exploiting and platinum duplication. Rumors and speculation have begun to run rampant, and I've received a lot of concerned email on the topic.
First of all, I want to thank you for your concern. The fact that you worry about this stuff as much as we do makes me feel good about the community that I work for. I want to especially thank those that have sent in detailed information about what they thought might be dupe or exploit situations. That information has been very helpful.
With your help, we have been able to discover and eliminate some unusual ways of cheating. Obviously I can't go into detail about exactly how this cheating was done. I can tell you that several of our programmers and designers took lengthy breaks from working on their current tasks to define, investigate and smash those exploits. Most of these methods for cheating have been removed. The few that remain will be fixed shortly. We will be watching, and anyone using them will be banned.
At the same time, our Customer Service folks have been diligently tracking down the cheaters. We have banned accounts and deleted characters in the hundreds. It's never a good thing to be forced to remove so many accounts, and we're not happy that such cheating was possible. We are pleased, however, to let you know that we are confident that we have located the majority of those that exploited the game and have removed their characters or accounts.
Obviously we won't be able to prevent all of the possible ways to cheat. The folks that insist on trying to cheat have proven to be persistent and clever (and here is where I wonder why they don't apply that energy and skill to something beneficial...). We need your help to locate these issues. The multitude of eyes and ears of our players is always the best source of information for us. If you ever suspect that you have discovered something that seems like an exploit, please send that information to us through the Developer's Corner AND through /bug. Please don't assume we have heard the information already. We'd rather have ten reports about something like this than none.
I'd also like to address a rumor about the nature of some of the cheating that people have been talking about. There has been speculation in the community that in order to pull off some of the rumored exploits someone had to be working on the "inside".
We take such possibilities very seriously. And we have investigated this very thoroughly. We keep track of all special EverQuest commands issued. We have looked into the possibility that someone working here had a hand in helping others cheat, and we have discovered no evidence that indicates that to be the case. Also, the nature of the cheat did not require such inside help. I can't describe the cheat method in any detail, but there was an experience cheat that allowed extremely fast leveling. This required some rather sophisticated cheating, but was being done without inside help. Obviously we have removed that exploit and banned any accounts that used it.
Thank you for playing EverQuest. And thank you for you help making the game fun.
Have a great holiday season.
Alan"
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source:
http://eqlive.station.sony.com/community/dev_view.jsp
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Anybody on TM that we know on RP get banned because of this?
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GruntingCod
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 6399
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Posted: 12/08/03 - 19:16 Post subject:
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Me
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Haphasto
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 10 Nov 2002 Posts: 1800
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: 12/08/03 - 20:49 Post subject:
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don't feel like reading, so i'm not sure if this is about the article, or RP members who actually got banned...
but if it is about people who got banned, I did 4 accounts back
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Rasil_Sabishi
Toomuchtimeonhands

Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 933
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Posted: 12/08/03 - 20:54 Post subject:
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Suming it up - Bunch of people were making millions of plat as well as were able to level extraordinarily fast due to some quest or some shit, and 100's of people were banned for the abuse of these exploits.
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
Location: Moral Relativity Central
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Posted: 12/08/03 - 22:17 Post subject:
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khrath
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 8750
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Posted: 12/09/03 - 00:41 Post subject:
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lol OH NO IM BANNED FOX HAXING TEH GIBSUN
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Xieroth
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 1902
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Posted: 12/09/03 - 02:06 Post subject:
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| Khrath wrote: | | lol OH NO IM BANNED FOX HAXING TEH GIBSUN |
Mess with the best, die like the rest...
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Verdeloth
Luke Warm

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 343
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Posted: 12/09/03 - 02:40 Post subject:
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how did this dupe bug work?
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khrath
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 8750
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Posted: 12/09/03 - 02:52 Post subject:
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I dunno, but i just jerked off to your avatar
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Obes
Total Newbie

Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 19
Location: Your mum's house.
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Posted: 12/09/03 - 02:53 Post subject:
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Rumour is a developer put in some bugged npcs.
eg. a banker (not linked to your normal bank) in befallen who converted 1 gold to 1 plat and 1 plat to 10 gold.
(and banker transactions apparently aren't watched for dupe bugs)
Its also rumoured there was another one with a simple quest to get lots of exp very fast (ie. yantis offering level 65 chars with hundreds of aa's in under 2 days)... heady kiolas all over again heh
The also fixd up a few trade skill pricing issues (certain arrow heads and a problem with MQ ore prices) but they weren't how people were making a ton of plat.
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Wiccans
Luke Warm

Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 483
Location: Canada
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Posted: 12/09/03 - 10:44 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Obviously I can't go into detail about exactly how this cheating was done. |
Always makes me suspicious when they state that they have fixed the cheats but then hide behind this shroud that they can't reveal how it was done. If it's fixed... why not tell how it was done? If nothing else, it gives those who play EQ and like to rat out all cheaters/exploiters a good idea of how it was done so they can spot those doing similar things. To me, a move like that makes sense for Sony. The move they did make, not telling how it was done, makes me just wonder even more if there was someone on the inside who made this possible. And if there was... they're not going to reveal that it was an inside job... Sony never takes blame for anything. It's always the players problem and the players fault.
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Dagar
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Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 43
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Silvermouse
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 12 Oct 2002 Posts: 11015
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Posted: 12/09/03 - 13:09 Post subject:
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I wish our server had tough people like Anabolic. You know, people who will make us regret standing in their way.
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
Location: Moral Relativity Central
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Posted: 12/09/03 - 14:03 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | I wish our server had tough people like Anabolic. You know, people who will make us regret standing in their way. |
me too me too!!
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Brash
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Posts: 3958
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Posted: 12/09/03 - 14:14 Post subject:
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from that link for people who dont want to read it all ...
3 small bricks of medium quality ore + 1 flask of water = 1 large brick of medium quality ore. Alternatively: 12 silver + 1 silver = 6 plat. It's a 5000% profit margin. A bot macrod at a rate of 26 combines per minute (8 10 slot bags) will make 9600 platinum per hour.
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