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Obmar
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 Posted: 08/23/04 - 16:11 Post subject:
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I didn't say whether it was true or not - only that is was very interesting commentary
I take it you havent seen it Doc - but that's ok man
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Docter
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 16:14 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | I didn't say whether it was true or not - only that is was very interesting commentary
I take it you havent seen it Doc - but that's ok man |
At least you are calling it a commentary, I'll give you that much sir. I may or may not watch it.../shrugs...haven't watched his Columbine one yet either.
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Vengar_OO
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 16:22 Post subject: -==-
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Uh no, I haven't seen it yet. I wouldn't pay theater prices for it. I will rent it when it's out on dvd, or probably just borrow it from....not wait none of my friends would buy it.
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xeqer
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 16:24 Post subject:
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I'll go see it as soon as they stop calling it a documentary and put it in the fantasy/fiction category.
Oh yea, and when you get 1 free kick to Michael Moore's face with each ticket purchased.
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Obmar
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 16:40 Post subject:
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well hell i wouldn't buy it either
it's interesting but not THAT interesting
i mean i already dont like bush - i dont need a movie to tell me why
BUT - anyone that talks shit about the movie without seeing it is automatically undermined. Go see it - it won't change your mind probably, but you'll be more informed.
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Docter
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 16:55 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | | BUT - anyone that talks shit about the movie without seeing it is automatically undermined. Go see it - it won't change your mind probably, but you'll be more informed. |
Informed about Bush sending the Osama family out of the country the day after 9/11...when in fact Clark came out and said it was by his orders and ACTUALLY took place three weeks later??? 
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Fabulez
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 17:23 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | the same sort of records that Bush revealed? With the blacked out areas?
the ones showing him failing to report to duty?
or the ones showing how he lost his wings for failing to show up for a drug test?
are those the ones that are released with the s-180 or whatever? |
His entire military record was released months ago. You lose. |
Your statement is irrelevant to Obmar's point. The records released provide no evidence that he served at all between April and October of 1972, and no evidence that he reported as ordered on October 7th.
The records released also show that he did not take his required annual medical exam in July of 1972. (Two months earlier the Air Force began testing reservists for drug use).
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ea05224b3e.htm
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Confused
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 17:35 Post subject:
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| Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | the same sort of records that Bush revealed? With the blacked out areas?
the ones showing him failing to report to duty?
or the ones showing how he lost his wings for failing to show up for a drug test?
are those the ones that are released with the s-180 or whatever? |
His entire military record was released months ago. You lose. |
Your statement is irrelevant to Obmar's point. The records released provide no evidence that he served at all between April and October of 1972, and no evidence that he reported as ordered on October 7th.
The records released also show that he did not take his required annual medical exam in July of 1972. (Two months earlier the Air Force began testing reservists for drug use).
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ea05224b3e.htm |
Usually you post leftist websites. Now you're posting from a forum from leftist website.
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Fabulez
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 17:38 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | the same sort of records that Bush revealed? With the blacked out areas?
the ones showing him failing to report to duty?
or the ones showing how he lost his wings for failing to show up for a drug test?
are those the ones that are released with the s-180 or whatever? |
His entire military record was released months ago. You lose. |
Your statement is irrelevant to Obmar's point. The records released provide no evidence that he served at all between April and October of 1972, and no evidence that he reported as ordered on October 7th.
The records released also show that he did not take his required annual medical exam in July of 1972. (Two months earlier the Air Force began testing reservists for drug use).
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ea05224b3e.htm |
Usually you post leftist websites. Now you're posting from a forum from leftist website. |
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Confused
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 17:39 Post subject:
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| Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | the same sort of records that Bush revealed? With the blacked out areas?
the ones showing him failing to report to duty?
or the ones showing how he lost his wings for failing to show up for a drug test?
are those the ones that are released with the s-180 or whatever? |
His entire military record was released months ago. You lose. |
Your statement is irrelevant to Obmar's point. The records released provide no evidence that he served at all between April and October of 1972, and no evidence that he reported as ordered on October 7th.
The records released also show that he did not take his required annual medical exam in July of 1972. (Two months earlier the Air Force began testing reservists for drug use).
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ea05224b3e.htm |
Usually you post leftist websites. Now you're posting from a forum from leftist website. |
irrelevantResponse++ |
Look, John Kerry murdered his cousin! I have proof!
http://www.realpoor.com/viewtopic.php?t=28249
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xeqer
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 21:23 Post subject: Re: -==-
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| Docter wrote: | | xeqer wrote: | | Kerry has published selected excepts from his military records. He has not released them to the public. To do this he needs to fill out a two page form, SF-180. However, those records would contain things like: the orginal reccomendation for the awards (written by Kerry), the medical officer's report on the self inflicted wound he got his first purple heart for....etc.. |
Actually Kerry got copies of ALL his military records within the last 10 years, guess he was planning to run for CINC.  |
Regardless, it's SF-180 that makes it available to the public. Anyone that is active/retired can obtain copies of all their service records, unless it contains classified material. Most commands will encourage you to make copies in the event something is lost. (That happens when you have a 19year old filing)
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Fabulez
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 18:11 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | the same sort of records that Bush revealed? With the blacked out areas?
the ones showing him failing to report to duty?
or the ones showing how he lost his wings for failing to show up for a drug test?
are those the ones that are released with the s-180 or whatever? |
His entire military record was released months ago. You lose. |
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Bush claimed in a TV interview in February that he would make "all" his military records available. The White House released more than 400 pages of Bush military records, including some duplicates, and said the documents were a complete catalog of his personnel files.
But some documents still have not been made public. The White House did not release Bush's medical records from his Guard files but allowed a group of reporters who cover the White House to review them for 20 minutes. They found nothing unusual. Kerry released some of his military records earlier this year. He has also declined to release his complete medical records but showed them to reporters as Bush did.
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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_5097.shtml
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Obmar
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 18:22 Post subject:
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i guess that means confused loses
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Confused
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 23:10 Post subject:
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| Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | the same sort of records that Bush revealed? With the blacked out areas?
the ones showing him failing to report to duty?
or the ones showing how he lost his wings for failing to show up for a drug test?
are those the ones that are released with the s-180 or whatever? |
His entire military record was released months ago. You lose. |
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Bush claimed in a TV interview in February that he would make "all" his military records available. The White House released more than 400 pages of Bush military records, including some duplicates, and said the documents were a complete catalog of his personnel files.
But some documents still have not been made public. The White House did not release Bush's medical records from his Guard files but allowed a group of reporters who cover the White House to review them for 20 minutes. They found nothing unusual. Kerry released some of his military records earlier this year. He has also declined to release his complete medical records but showed them to reporters as Bush did.
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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_5097.shtml |
Wrong. Bush released all records. He provided the necessary paperwork for the pentagon to release it all. All that exists is there. If you expect someone to physically possess a copy of 35 year old medical papers, you're retarded.
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Obmar
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Posted: 08/25/04 - 00:19 Post subject:
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keep repeating that
maybe if you say it enough it will come true!
or not
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Confused
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Posted: 08/25/04 - 09:09 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | keep repeating that
maybe if you say it enough it will come true!
or not |
Maybe if I say it enough it will sink in. Even the DNC doesn't make the awol claims anymore. They know it's a liability because its a lie.
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Ikkan
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Posted: 08/25/04 - 11:49 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | keep repeating that
maybe if you say it enough it will come true!
or not |
Maybe if I say it enough it will sink in. Even the DNC doesn't make the awol claims anymore. They know it's a liability because its a lie. |
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Jakanden
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Posted: 08/25/04 - 11:57 Post subject:
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| Docter wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | i assume by all the responses that either none of you went to farenheit 911 or you are ignoring my jibe on purpose
/shrug |
I feel pity for you if you believe everything that was in Moore's film, it wasn't a documentary, it was his commentary. |
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Obmar
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Posted: 08/25/04 - 13:15 Post subject:
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| Jakanden wrote: | | Docter wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | i assume by all the responses that either none of you went to farenheit 911 or you are ignoring my jibe on purpose
/shrug |
I feel pity for you if you believe everything that was in Moore's film, it wasn't a documentary, it was his commentary. |
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I also would feel pity for anyone that believed it all in it's entirety - at face value.
But if you haven't seen it you certainly aren't in the position to comment on it - because some of it (the facts - spin aside) is unquestionable.
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Posted: 08/25/04 - 14:28 Post subject:
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| Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | the same sort of records that Bush revealed? With the blacked out areas?
the ones showing him failing to report to duty?
or the ones showing how he lost his wings for failing to show up for a drug test?
are those the ones that are released with the s-180 or whatever? |
His entire military record was released months ago. You lose. |
Your statement is irrelevant to Obmar's point. The records released provide no evidence that he served at all between April and October of 1972, and no evidence that he reported as ordered on October 7th.
The records released also show that he did not take his required annual medical exam in July of 1972. (Two months earlier the Air Force began testing reservists for drug use).
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ea05224b3e.htm |
Usually you post leftist websites. Now you're posting from a forum from leftist website. |
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Incorrect.
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Posted: 08/25/04 - 14:29 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | the same sort of records that Bush revealed? With the blacked out areas?
the ones showing him failing to report to duty?
or the ones showing how he lost his wings for failing to show up for a drug test?
are those the ones that are released with the s-180 or whatever? |
His entire military record was released months ago. You lose. |
| Quote: |
Bush claimed in a TV interview in February that he would make "all" his military records available. The White House released more than 400 pages of Bush military records, including some duplicates, and said the documents were a complete catalog of his personnel files.
But some documents still have not been made public. The White House did not release Bush's medical records from his Guard files but allowed a group of reporters who cover the White House to review them for 20 minutes. They found nothing unusual. Kerry released some of his military records earlier this year. He has also declined to release his complete medical records but showed them to reporters as Bush did.
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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_5097.shtml |
Wrong. Bush released all records. He provided the necessary paperwork for the pentagon to release it all. All that exists is there. If you expect someone to physically possess a copy of 35 year old medical papers, you're retarded. |
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