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Zapper
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Sabathius
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Posted: 04/14/03 - 20:21 Post subject:
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i second the stupid protestors part.
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Barrakudah
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Posted: 04/14/03 - 20:25 Post subject:
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NUF Said.....
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sinrakin
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Posted: 04/14/03 - 20:33 Post subject:
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Wow, that's impressive - that Brain terminal site actually crashes my internet explorer. I see some green text on a black background, but IE crashes before I can read it.
The "Nitwits" sign is pretty funny though
Edit: Oh I see why - it's realplayer. Ever since I installed RealPlayer 1 or wtf it's called, any realplayer stuff instantly brings down all my IE windows. Uninstalled and reinstalled like 5 times then I just said f**k it. Which is too bad, because there are one or two reaplayer things I'd kind of like to see.
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r00typooh
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Posted: 04/14/03 - 21:44 Post subject:
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compusmack
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Posted: 04/14/03 - 21:49 Post subject:
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eqchanter
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 08:18 Post subject:
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compusmacks pics always make me laugh. even when im in a bad mood
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Zwadrich
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 09:04 Post subject:
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true, true ....
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Minion
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 09:07 Post subject:
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| Barrakudah wrote: |
NUF Said..... | "PROTECT THE TROOPS! BRING THEM HOME!"
...in other words...
"My son didn't enlist into the military with the intention of actually fighting for his country!"
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Akronn
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 10:05 Post subject:
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Although you've got to admit, the 'nitwit' guy is quite the fashion disaster, and he's come very close to spelling nitwit as two words.
Perhaps he should've made an arrow for himself too!
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WheresNWS
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 10:08 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | Although you've got to admit, the 'nitwit' guy is quite the fashion disaster, and he's come very close to spelling nitwit as two words.
Perhaps he should've made an arrow for himself too! |
huh?
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Akronn
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 10:10 Post subject:
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OK, I'll be less polite.
His f****s needs to get a job.
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WheresNWS
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 10:11 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | OK, I'll be less polite.
His f****s needs to get a job. |
Better. The "almost a space" in the sign was really stretching it.
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Akronn
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 10:17 Post subject:
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It's a poorly written sign 'cause the first thing my eyes do when I look at it is split it into two words. It's nitpicky, though.
I couldn't help but notice that not only is he protesting with grandma and soccer moms while we're all working, he also choose a spot conveniently located near a Chinese restaurant for that quick mid-protesting snack!
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Pags
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 12:51 Post subject:
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The sign gets it's point across just fine, stop over analyzing shit.
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Minion
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 13:06 Post subject:
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This video was the single most amusing thing I've ever watched because it's a prime example of the idiocy in the minds of peace protestors.
Especially toward the end when that dumb b***h started getting all loud and emotional, "OH I'M SORRY, I FORGOT, YOU'RE SO EDUCATED!"
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WheresNWS
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 13:31 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | It's a poorly written sign 'cause the first thing my eyes do when I look at it is split it into two words. It's nitpicky, though.
I couldn't help but notice that not only is he protesting with grandma and soccer moms while we're all working, he also choose a spot conveniently located near a Chinese restaurant for that quick mid-protesting snack! |
I don't even see a space. I think it's an illusion because the bottom of the T and W are further apart, because of the way the letters shaped, thereby causing the two to seem further apart. Compare the distance between the tops of the T and the W, however, with the distance between any other two letters and it's about the same.
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Rennol
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 14:31 Post subject:
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Unfortunately most of the protestors seem to just be bandwagon "I hate war" and all that shit people.
While I don't 100% agree with the war, it's mostly over now -> the main thing is to make sure that we don't s***w up the peace and rebuilding of Iraq.
It's obvious that the military planners didn't have the Baghdad attack planned out. (at least, have contingency plans for different scenarios - i.e. with all the looting/chaos)
When the regime collapsed, looting and chaos ran rampant. Many of the artifacts and things that we were trying to protect with our pin-point precision bombardment were destroyed and stolen - not by US troops and weapons - but by Iraqi looters.
While that is a sad example of human "herd chaos instinct" to pillage, my father and I were talking about this the other day and he mentioned how it must have completely taken the military by surprise. No plan was apparently in place to protect the Museum from the looters. A simple security perimeter around the place would have done the job.
Hopefully we learn from our past mistakes in this area and move forward in the best way possible.
As for the disarming of Iraq - the issue isn't to disarm Iraq, or whether Hussein is/was a bad guy - IMHO, anyways, the main problem was how Bush went about the whole thing.
Bringing religion into it - I don't want to have another set of holy wars envelop the globe. Crusades are so 1000 years ago. While the "jihad" people are despicable, they aren't an accurate representation of EVERY Muslim, Islam is not a violent religion.. neither is Christianity. Yet zealots from both religions have shown that they have the capacity to be barbaric.
Unfortunate.
Anyways. I just hope that we didn't bite off more than we can chew, economically, as far as Iraq's post-war future goes.
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Kbarr
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 14:34 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | OK, I'll be less polite.
His f****s needs to get a job. |
Actually he looks like one of them short WIDE f*****s who works out on the bench press with 350lbs as a warm up.
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Jinu
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 14:44 Post subject:
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huh, think kbarr's got a point. practically no spare tire. my buck o five is impressed.
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Kikk
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Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 695
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 14:47 Post subject:
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"While that is a sad example of human "herd chaos instinct" to pillage, my father and I were talking about this the other day and he mentioned how it must have completely taken the military by surprise. No plan was apparently in place to protect the Museum from the looters. A simple security perimeter around the place would have done the job."
Rennol, man do you honestly believe that a single one of those soldiers (who are still being fired upon daily) had any concern whether or not some damn museum got looted? Who gives a flying f**k--they are material things.
Bagdhad is a city with 5 million people who would need a police force LARGER THAN THE ENTIRE COALITION FORCES CURRENTLY IN IRAQ. Can you comprehend that? It is not AND WILL NOT be possible for coalition forces to properly police the country. Not only does this put our forces in GREATER jepordy than the war itself but it puts our troops in a position of OCCUPATION which we will do our best to avoid even though some forces will be needed to HELP keep the peace.
Lastly why the f**k would it take anyone by surprise, much less the military which a good number in Iraq are National Gaurd who have to police our own damn streets in our own damn country during any crisis to keep our own people from looting shit when the power goes out. This is a country that has been oppressed for thirty years and robbed blind by a regime who starved tens of millions of people to fatten its own pockets. How the f**k could anyone be surprised about that?
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Aqua
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 15:55 Post subject:
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Irony at it's best...
/boggle
"If you're in a peace march and the guy next to you has a sign saying that Bush is Hitler, forget the peace thing for a second and beat his ass."
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Bob Dole
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 20:14 Post subject:
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You know, it's a good thing the Iraqi civilian who risked his life and his family to help rescue Private Jessica Lynch didn't have American TV. That way, he didn't have to see people who should know better trashing the war.
To protect his identity, the Marines call him Mohammed. I call him a hero. He reminds us to focus on the big picture: getting rid of Saddam's regime. Liberating 25 million Iraqis while limiting our casualties, and theirs.
President Bush warned the fighting would be difficult. I just wish the critics, including retired brass, would let us win this war before being told how poorly it was managed.
Sure, critics have a role, but they should consider their impact on families across America. Like countless others, I've been there. I know how folks at home worry about loved ones in a combat zone. When I fought in WWII, I don't remember anybody second guessing General Eisenhower.
Let's give our leaders and courageous troops some slack. Be patient and supportive. They deserve it.
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LerraLove
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 21:18 Post subject:
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Hmmm The l*****n and nitwit ones are funny .. rofl
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Paco
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Posted: 04/15/03 - 21:50 Post subject:
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| Aqua wrote: | Irony at it's best...
/boggle
"If you're in a peace march and the guy next to you has a sign saying that Bush is Hitler, forget the peace thing for a second and beat his ass." |
hahahha, omfg..that make me LOL for real..
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Rennol
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Posted: 04/16/03 - 00:21 Post subject:
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Kikk seriously, I don't think you are that stupid. The entire point of precisely making sure that we didn't blow up the f*****g museum was to preserve the history of Iraq.
In case you didn't know it, Iraq is located in what is generally accepted as the "birthplace" of civilization. Ancient civilizations such as Sumer and Babylon both occupied the territory now known as Iraq.
If the whole concept of that doesn't faze you then I don't know what would. Preserving the heritage of Iraq isn't about preserving some hokey little objects - it is about preserving the heritage of civilization itself.
Lest we not forget the proverb <i>He who does not study history is destined to repeat it</i>
As far as policing the country (Iraq) goes - WTF man. WHAT THE f**k do you think we are doing right now? f*****g look at CNN at least or something man, at least some people think that civil order is important.
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Kikk
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Posted: 04/16/03 - 01:29 Post subject:
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http://washingtontimes.com/national/20030408-56118187.htm
Rep. Jim Kolbe, Arizona Republican and chairman of the House Appropriations foreign operations, export financing, and related programs subcommittee, said U.S. law designates the State Department as the manager of foreign assistance money.
"Bottom line: Reconstruction is a civilian role," Mr. Kolbe said.
Several Republican aides also said key members don't want to see military "mission creep" into policing and rebuilding Iraq. Still, Republicans said the administration's request is being considered
http://famulus.msnbc.com/FamulusIntl/reuters04-11-112450.asp?reg=MIDEAST
During a U.S. Central Command briefing in Qatar, Army Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks said on Friday American troops would take some steps but would not become the police on the beat. Some looting has taken place as U.S. troops stood idly by.
''At no point do we see really becoming a police force,'' Brooks said. ''We seek to create conditions of stability where people can walk the streets safely without looting, without violence, without exploding vehicles. ... In some cases it may require shooting machine guns in downtown.''
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=2557166
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20030411-010551-6382r.htm
In Qatar on Friday, U.S. military officials said U.S. forces do not intend to crack down on looting in Iraq because it might alienate the Iraqi people they are trying to win over.
"If the coalition simply imposed control on the population, that wouldn't achieve the desired effect. We wouldn't be everywhere and we might also alienate a population that doesn't need to have another regime with a grip around its neck," said Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, a Central Command spokesman.
The Pentagon is coming under increasing criticism from human rights groups who say looted hospitals are unable to treat patients, food and water cannot be delivered because the streets are unsafe, and the population is in danger from unchecked fires and criminal violence.
The Geneva Convention holds occupying powers responsible for maintaining law and order.
"We do feel an obligation to assist in providing security, and the coalition forces are doing that. They're patrolling in various cities. Where they see looting, they're stopping it, and they will be doing so," Rumsfeld said.
However, U.S military officials say the war is still very much a hot one. Forces must focus on vanquishing the last vestiges of the regime before they can turn their attention to policing, they say
Nobody has said that making Iraq safe is not important Rennol. It is not however, our priority at the moment nor was it a week ago. It will become a priority and probably pretty soon as more of these pockets of resistance are taken out but right now our troops have more important things to worry about. Also you might notice that as the streets become safer more specialized military and civilians are moving in to take over this role. Policing streets to maintain civil order is not something that our troops recieve very much training in--fighting wars is deemed more important for some odd reason.
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Rennol
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Posted: 04/16/03 - 01:36 Post subject:
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Reconstruction != Policing a civilian populace for the short term
Our troops might not have a ton of training as far as that goes, but they are being tasked with that duty right now; and we are working with the Iraqi law enforcement officials to make sure that order is maintained.
I am just pointing out that mobs of looters descending like locusts upon the city is not something we want, and it is most definitely something we are taking steps to control.
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Kikk
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Posted: 04/16/03 - 01:48 Post subject:
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Lol do you watch the news Rennol? There are less instances of looting in the streets but do you believe it is because the few troops we have in Bagdad are stopping it or do you think it could be because there is not much left to loot? Honest question. Do you know how big Bagdad is bro? Do you honestly think we have enough troops to patrol every street--much less large parts of the city. As I said before--as the pockets of resistance become fewer our troops will be able to pay more attention to helping the Iraqi's maintain order but most of what you are seeing right now is a side effect of our troops patrolling to find the bad guys. There attentions are not focused on stopping looting and should not be until they can be possitive that the majority of resistance is squashed.
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